List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - The Final Countdown

[Meteoric Rise]

I know almost everyone has us taking Smillie at 6.

After the pod tonight I watched 10 min of footage of him and I honestly didn't have anything jump out at me saying 'yep, we MUST take this guy'.

If Jagga or Draper somehow get to 6 I'd be all on board for them I think.

There any chance we have tapped Smillie up to play well within his capabilities in the 2nd half of the season? If we overlook higher performing mids for him that theory will gain some weight with me.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

He's not the only one. There's his brother, Sims and Gerreyn.

Forgot about Sims. He fell of the radar towards the end of the year, but looked good up forward ( apart from a dodgy looking set shot routine) , he does launch at the ball and is athletic

 

[Michaels]

There any chance we have tapped Smillie up to play well within his capabilities in the 2nd half of the season? If we overlook higher performing mids for him that theory will gain some weight with me.

Anything could be possible!

 

[Tygrys]

I know almost everyone has us taking Smillie at 6.

After the pod tonight I watched 10 min of footage of him and I honestly didn't have anything jump out at me saying 'yep, we MUST take this guy'.

If Jagga or Draper somehow get to 6 I'd be all on board for them I think.

Smillie is our 'best of what's left' pick regarding the top tier of midfielders. He is our default pick. The one that everyone assumes we'll select because the all others will be gone. But yeah if Jagga or Draper drift to six I'd be amazed if we are not all over them.

 

[Baltastar]

all aboard on J Whitlock
Really the only 200cm power forward / 2nd ruck option in this draft.
That’s a big list requirement for us.

I spoke to him last week. He believes he is a chance at 11 to come us. Nothing was said to him outright but he walked away from the meeting with RFC thinking that way. Trotter their manager believes both bros could be gone by pick 12. Interesting. Saints are red hot on them

 

[Ctl]

Smillie is our 'best of what's left' pick regarding the top tier of midfielders. He is our default pick. The one that everyone assumes we'll select because the all others will be gone. But yeah if Jagga or Draper drift to six I'd be amazed if we are not all over them.

I think we have Smillie at 3, and that’s why we haven’t pulled the trigger on trading up for 2 as they can’t justify trading the player they rank at 3 and one in the 20s to go up one spot on our rankings

 

[Charlie Pannam]

I spoke to him last week. He believes he is a chance at 11 to come us. Nothing was said to him outright but he walked away from the meeting with RFC thinking that way. Trotter their manager believes both bros could be gone by pick 12. Interesting. Saints are red hot on them

Hope so
Did read that our recruiting team was watching plenty of Bushrangers games at the back end of the season.

 

[Ctl]

I spoke to him last week. He believes he is a chance at 11 to come us. Nothing was said to him outright but he walked away from the meeting with RFC thinking that way. Trotter their manager believes both bros could be gone by pick 12. Interesting. Saints are red hot on them

Wonder if the saints are putting in the work in case they trade back

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Smillie is our 'best of what's left' pick regarding the top tier of midfielders. He is our default pick. The one that everyone assumes we'll select because the all others will be gone. But yeah if Jagga or Draper drift to six I'd be amazed if we are not all over them.

If we don't trade up for 2 it is pretty clear this is because we rate the player we believe we will get at 6 at least as good as the players likely to be taken 2-5. Our first & second picks are basically foundation stone players for our rebuild. If we don't trade up from pick 6 to 2 at the mere cost of a late rd 1 pick, it must be because we think we are getting our two most preferred players at 1 & 6. The main player we would appear to have the inside running on that other clubs with top 5 picks might be scared off would seem to be Smillie. So if we take him at 6(or wherever the pick slides to) I would think there is a fair chance that we think he is actually one of the best 2 players in the draft.

The Roos don't look like taking Smillie. Carlton already have a monster sized mid in Cripps but in any event them, Crows & Dees won't see themselves getting access to top 5 talent again in the foreseeable future. So those clubs are not in a great position to call Richmond's bluff on Smillie if this is going the way I think it may be.

This is the element of the draft that has my interest more than any other at the moment, whether we take Smillie at 6.

 

[THE_GUN]

Understand not wanting to do it but please explain how F2 is useless?

It’s not a F1 but useless, common.

I’m big on getting 2 and going Lalor and FOS. Prob won’t happen but there are ways if we are willing. Hell dosent even have to be 18 could be 20 or 23.

End of the day Tigs will do what we can do. I hope we find a way to get up to 2 and pair up them both


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Very simple really
We will have 2 x 1st rounders min next year as well as our own 2nd rounder thats 3 selections
Norths 2nd rounder will blow out to a pick #35+ next year and what we give up this year wont justify what we get in return
In a draft thats considered alot weaker than this draft

Trading down from #18 in this draft for a pick #35 in a weak draft just to move from Smillie/Langford to get FOS
I dont see the value

 

[richoatthedisco]

If we don't trade up for 2 it is pretty clear this is because we rate the player we believe we will get at 6 at least as good as the players likely to be taken 2-5. Our first & second picks are basically foundation stone players for our rebuild. If we don't trade up from pick 6 to 2 at the mere cost of a late rd 1 pick, it must be because we think we are getting our two most preferred players at 1 & 6. The main player we would appear to have the inside running on that other clubs with top 5 picks might be scared off would seem to be Smillie. So if we take him at 6(or wherever the pick slides to) I would think there is a fair chance that we think he is actually one of the best 2 players in the draft.

The Roos don't look like taking Smillie. Carlton already have a monster sized mid in Cripps but in any event them, Crows & Dees won't see themselves getting access to top 5 talent again in the foreseeable future. So those clubs are not in a great position to call Richmond's bluff on Smillie if this is going the way I think it may be.

This is the element of the draft that has my interest more than any other at the moment, whether we take Smillie at 6.

Smillie's our number 3, after Lalor and FOS.

We haven't given up 6 (yet) because Blair is a better poker player than Rawlings and is sweating him to panic-fold for 10 instead.

 

[sanaya]

If we don't trade up for 2 it is pretty clear this is because we rate the player we believe we will get at 6 at least as good as the players likely to be taken 2-5. Our first & second picks are basically foundation stone players for our rebuild. If we don't trade up from pick 6 to 2 at the mere cost of a late rd 1 pick, it must be because we think we are getting our two most preferred players at 1 & 6. The main player we would appear to have the inside running on that other clubs with top 5 picks might be scared off would seem to be Smillie. So if we take him at 6(or wherever the pick slides to) I would think there is a fair chance that we think he is actually one of the best 2 players in the draft.

The Roos don't look like taking Smillie. Carlton already have a monster sized mid in Cripps but in any event them, Crows & Dees won't see themselves getting access to top 5 talent again in the foreseeable future. So those clubs are not in a great position to call Richmond's bluff on Smillie if this is going the way I think it may be.

This is the element of the draft that has my interest more than any other at the moment, whether we take Smillie at 6.

in the dees case i can also just see that if it was a choice between langford and smillie, dees would pick langford cos of the fact that langford would hit his straps earlier than smillie. i'm not saying that smillie would take long to play AFL footy, but langford seems pretty ready to play at a more advanced level than smillie early next year which dees might care about trying to get the most out of next year for tracca and clarry's sake, whereas richmond are more of a whogivesashit.gif in regards to if a player will be the best rd1 next year

and langford's ceiling is still pretty damn high, worst case scenario he's a decent target up fwd that can sometimes go mid. watching his end of year highlights only video i can definitely see a cripps/bont hybrid. he's pretty much only got 1 major weakness which can be worked on somewhat (speed), and if you value everything else he brings, which is a lot, then you'd be stupid to pass him up. whereas smillie still is good, compared to langford he has more to his game that can be improved, which could be riskier

smillie though is such a weird one because i don't buy or see any cripps/green comparisons so it's hard to project how a player like him will be in his prime, cos he has great midfield craft, moves so well for 195cm and if we can just teach him to use his body more, we'll be in for a treat (should we actually draft him, please!)

i'm just wondering that if it goes lalor>FOS>jagga/draper>langford on draft night and melbourne have a choice between jagga, tauru & smillie, or draper, tauru & smillie, what they do in each scenario. praying smillie gets to us either way

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Smillie's our number 3, after Lalor and FOS.

We haven't given up 6 (yet) because Blair is a better poker player than Rawlings and is sweating him to panic-fold for 10 instead.

It would be great to think we could somehow nab our top 3 choices. Not sure how realistic it is though.

 

[THE_GUN]

I know almost everyone has us taking Smillie at 6.

After the pod tonight I watched 10 min of footage of him and I honestly didn't have anything jump out at me saying 'yep, we MUST take this guy'.

If Jagga or Draper somehow get to 6 I'd be all on board for them I think.

July 17 2024

Cal Twomey Ranked Josh Smillie the best available of the available players in this years draft
Ranked #2 after pick #1 that was Ashcroft

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his first Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.nmfc.com.au

" The best of those games was against Brisbane's Academy, when he was completely dominant with 34 disposals, 10 inside 50s and three goals, and he has averaged 27 disposals and 1.5 goals a game at that level. The 18-year-old's height and size makes him a unique midfield prospect for clubs to consider at the top end "

 

[richoatthedisco]

It would be great to think we could somehow nab our top 3 choices. Not sure how realistic it is though.

I don't think FOS gets to 6, but we might be able to get Rawlings to fold for 10 and 20. The alterntive for him is to trade down to 4 and take Tauru, but all that gains him is a future second (if Adelaide can even get its hands on one).

He then faces the prospect of selling his F1 for unders (16 at best) or not picking again until at least the 40s if he sells an F2.

 

[Karp3_dm]

I don't think FOS gets to 6, but we might be able to get Rawlings to fold for 10 and 20. The alterntive for him is to trade down to 4 and take Tauru, but all that gains him is a future second (if Adelaide can even get its hands on one).

He then faces the prospect of selling his F1 for unders (16 at best) or not picking again until at least the 40s if he sells an F2.

I agree 10 and 18 for 2 is actually ok for North but I reckon they won’t do it out of the risk of looking like an embarrassed little minnow as they are

 

[richoatthedisco]

I agree 10 and 18 for 2 is actually ok for North but I reckon they won’t do it out of the risk of looking like an embarrassed little minnow as they are

Quite possibly.

They should be in the VFL.

 

[THE_GUN]

Smillie's our number 3, after Lalor and FOS.

We haven't given up 6 (yet) because Blair is a better poker player than Rawlings and is sweating him to panic-fold for 10 instead.

And this could very well be the case as we dont have to be rushed and are holding the cards with nothing to lose
NorF have a massive hard on for the player they need that fits their list need and the FOS love is just a bluff and is transparent because they actually considered trading with Crows for a F2 to move out of the FOS pick.

For Richmond its FOS v Smillie / Langford
In 2024 both Smillie & Langford have had better year than FOS and Smillie could end up being the faster version of Cripps
Or Langford the next Bont at the same time FOS could be the next Heeney

Smillie & Whitlock v FOS - I take the 2
#10 + #18 for #2 i'll take and it should be a take or leave deal

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Dedicated to the 17 clubs that are about to be reamed.

 

[richoatthedisco]

#10 + #18 for #2 i'll take and it should be a take or leave deal

Then when they agree tell them it's 10 + 20 now.

 

[THE_GUN]

Then when they agree tell them it's 10 + 20 now.

Or they can have #10 , #18 , #20 for #2 + F1

I would be reading the NorF board more than this board for the next month

 

[Danog]

Then when they agree tell them it's 10 + 20 now.

and add in their F2

 

[TJTIGER]

The media desperate for us to eff this up.
#

They are in for disappointment’s galore….

 

[richoatthedisco]

Or they can have #10 , #18 , #20 for #2 + F1

No they can't

 

[tiger_tough]

There any chance we have tapped Smillie up to play well within his capabilities in the 2nd half of the season? If we overlook higher performing mids for him that theory will gain some weight with me.

None. If we did, and he did, then he's the dumbest of dumb campaigners.