List Mgmt. 2024 Draft Thread

[_Mike_]

FYI

Will add a 2024 NAB Draft & Trade tracker thread, stickied.

Tag me when we have a confirmed trade/draft and I will update the thread accordingly

 

[bobs head soup]

Flat that no mention of Davidson from Twomey. He'd be perfect for us IMO

Twomey only did a top 30. Davidson may well be in our mix, but probably later.

 

[Mofra]

Is there a reason people here are not into Datolli?

Where does he play? He's a small marking forward and a very light body. I'm not sure I see a role. I'd much rather a ground ball / crumbling small if we go that route.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Where does he play? He's a small marking forward and a very light body. I'm not sure I see a role. I'd much rather a ground ball / crumbling small if we go that route.

Any crumbling small forward available with our next pick 35

 

[Bonti 5416]

Have a listen to that. He’s made of the right stuff, Buckley was impressed. He would know a thing or two about what it takes.

At first glance I described Hynes as Matt Kennedy, its a lazy comment because they are taller inside mids who can rest forward.

Heres some facts:

Lost 8kg’s in 16 year by upping his diet and professionalism. He’s only scratching the surface of his physical capabilities.

Hes been a forward whole career, only moved to midfield recently. Heaps of development still to come as mid. Particularly how we emphasise our players to be clean with hands, this will improve dramatically in our team if we get him.

As a bottom ager he kicked 18 goals in 13 games in Coates league. This year he kicked 22 goals in Coates talent in 15 games. That includes bags of 5, 4 and two 3’s.
1 goal per game at nationals.
To say he plays tall when forward is not true. He is a good 1 v 1 forward, ourbodies opponents rather than outreaches. More strings to bow than that though, he also snaps goals and crumbs well.

In terms of ball winning.
Found the footy for fun at both levels this year.
24 touches a game at CTL, dipped below 20 touches 3 times only, all after he got an ankle injury against bushrangers. he played out the year with that injury and sat out the combine because of it. Thats pretty consistent.

17 touches per game at Nationals at 79% efficiency.

CTL team of year, runner up in Morrish Medal.

Give the kid some credit. His CV is very solid.
The upside could be huge.
Definitely has AFL traits. As forward who pinch hits mid to begin with and plays some footy next year.

If Berry, Reid are gone. Im happy to get this bloke and can definitely see him adding to our list.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

At this stage our best bet looks like Reid sliding to us. If he doesn't I want us to take Hannaford, and then see who is left at our second (eg Hynes).

 

[weltschmerz]

We like players who storm home in their u18s year. Hannaford is that type. Hynes has had a good year. It’s one reason why I wonder about the potential Moraes pick as he didn’t have a big year this year compared to last.

 

[Dav1d]

 

[adogsfan5]

Is there a reason people here are not into Datolli?

I like him but just doesn’t seem like a crumber with pace… but I could be wrong!

 

[Salad dog]

There’s been zero talk of it, so I doubt it’s an option, but would you trade 17 & our future 1st for Tigers Pick 11?

If Twomey’s phantom is fairly spot on,
11 -> 14
17 -> 20

At 14, we have the choice of Reid, Berry, Hotton whereas Tigers drop to 20 and likely snag one of Shanahan, Armstrong, Whitlock. (Twomey has them taking Shanahan at 14)

Our 2nd round pick still puts us in with a chance to still grab a Hynes/Hannaford type.

2 years of future pick trading comes in next year as well.

 

[bulldogs201616]

Watch from the 4 minute mark Hynes takes over the game. That's enough for me to say he is our man if one of Berry or Murphy don't slip.

 

[Doggies7]

There’s been zero talk of it, so I doubt it’s an option, but would you trade 17 & our future 1st for Tigers Pick 11?

If Twomey’s phantom is fairly spot on,
11 -> 14
17 -> 20

At 14, we have the choice of Reid, Berry, Hotton whereas Tigers drop to 20 and likely snag one of Shanahan, Armstrong, Whitlock. (Twomey has them taking Shanahan at 14)

Our 2nd round pick still puts us in with a chance to still grab a Hynes/Hannaford type.

2 years of future pick trading comes in next year as well.

Not a bad idea, but if Berry, Reid etc are gone I would rather see if the Tigers would do 17 for 23 + 24. They have so many high picks so will be looking to consolidate or trade out one or two. This way we would still be a decent shot at Hynes at 23 and will have 23, 24 and 25 (including 24 being the valuable first pick of night 2). I think it's pretty around the mark for what teams are paying to trade up into the first round to grab someone they like, maybe a little unders when you look at last year (pick 17 for pick 18 and a future 2nd)

We would then have a good shot at taking 3 of Hynes, Hannaford, Dattoli, Trainer, Oliver, Moreas, Gross etc with 35 still to grab someone a bit later.

 

[adogsfan5]

Watch from the 4 minute mark Hynes take over the game. That's enough for me to say he is our man if one of Berry or Murphy don't slip.

Looks like a really dangerous forward!

 

[bulldogs201616]

Have a listen to that. He’s made of the right stuff, Buckley was impressed. He would know a thing or two about what it takes.

At first glance I described Hynes as Matt Kennedy, its a lazy comment because they are taller inside mids who can rest forward.

Heres some facts:

Lost 8kg’s in 16 year by upping his diet and professionalism. He’s only scratching the surface of his physical capabilities.

Hes been a forward whole career, only moved to midfield recently. Heaps of development still to come as mid. Particularly how we emphasise our players to be clean with hands, this will improve dramatically in our team if we get him.

As a bottom ager he kicked 18 goals in 13 games in Coates league. This year he kicked 22 goals in Coates talent in 15 games. That includes bags of 5, 4 and two 3’s.
1 goal per game at nationals.
To say he plays tall when forward is not true. He is a good 1 v 1 forward, ourbodies opponents rather than outreaches. More strings to bow than that though, he also snaps goals and crumbs well.

In terms of ball winning.
Found the footy for fun at both levels this year.
24 touches a game at CTL, dipped below 20 touches 3 times only, all after he got an ankle injury against bushrangers. he played out the year with that injury and sat out the combine because of it. Thats pretty consistent.

17 touches per game at Nationals at 79% efficiency.

CTL team of year, runner up in Morrish Medal.

Give the kid some credit. His CV is very solid.
The upside could be huge.
Definitely has AFL traits. As forward who pinch hits mid to begin with and plays some footy next year.

If Berry, Reid are gone. Im happy to get this bloke and can definitely see him adding to our list.

100 percent convinced he is the player we get. Has all the traits to be a superstar in my opinion.

 

[ossie_21]

Can’t wait for another 2 days of bed wetting over some players we might not even take, or those who have an absolute hard on for trading up in drafts for no apparent reason than believing they are guaranteed 1 good player instead of possibly 2 good players.

I LIVE FOR IT

 

[LukasTheGreat]

Watch from the 4 minute mark Hynes takes over the game. That's enough for me to say he is our man if one of Berry or Murphy don't slip.

Got alot of questionable frees, has poor disposal and all of his goals were Joe the gooses. Worrying.

 

[Dogsfan1]

God u just find anything don’t u to put a negative spin on it

 

[Doggy]

Got alot of questionable frees, has poor disposal and all of his goals were Joe the gooses. Worrying.

Or... he works hard and manages to get space off his man to create out the back opportunities.

Something we as a club don't get many of but get scored on that way

 

[dogsuperfan]

A question to those who follow Cooper Hynes. If the midfield position doesn’t work out for him can we expect him to be a more explosive version of Bailey Fritsch in the forward line?

 

[Salad dog]

Can’t wait for another 2 days of bed wetting over some players we might not even take, or those who have an absolute hard on for trading up in drafts for no apparent reason than believing they are guaranteed 1 good player instead of possibly 2 good players.

I LIVE FOR IT

Can confirm, rock hard.

 

[Bonti 5416]

We like players who storm home in their u18s year. Hannaford is that type. Hynes has had a good year. It’s one reason why I wonder about the potential Moraes pick as he didn’t have a big year this year compared to last.

I suspect Moraes is in contention for 3rd pick not 2nd.

We need as many keys taken as possible before our second. In Cal’s phantom there is Tauru, Armstrong, Shannahan, Whitlock x2, Faull, Trainor gone before our second.

If all that happens plus Dodson and/or Mraz then we will get one of Oliver, Hannaford hopefully.

Not out of the question but we are in a shite spot for our needs at both picks and need a few teams to reach. Bowman could be another.

I wonder if we would trade future first for 21? Or 25 and future second?

I think that would be the price that richmond demand, there will be plenty of competition. Early next years draft is pretty compromised and this is a strong draft at this point.

Sam Power mentioned at the end of trade period that our hand gave us ‘flexibility’ so no doubt we are willing to have a crack and not just sit on our hands.

 

[Bonti 5416]

A question to those who follow Cooper Hynes. If the midfield position doesn’t work out for him can we expect him to be a more explosive version of Bailey Fritsch in the forward line?

I saw ESPN describe him as Sam Powell Pepper.

I Think that Hynes is more of a natural forward than SPP. Hynes is a better mark and 1v1 player in f50 but in terms of power based game in forward line and ground level pressure he can provide, its a decent comparison. More upside.

Something we have not had since Jake Stringer. I also think Stringer is a good comparison. Stringer had more power as u18 but when you look at how much Bont’s power has improved with elite training as an example, I think Hynes can get to Stringer levels of power and explosiveness.

To reiterate, I’d love Berry, but I have this guy on par with Hotton and Reid as our next best.

 

[Ash1337]

I like him but just doesn’t seem like a crumber with pace… but I could be wrong!

What I saw he reminds me more of Lachie Hunter.

 

[Mofra]

Can’t wait for another 2 days of bed wetting over some players we might not even take, or those who have an absolute hard on for trading up in drafts for no apparent reason than believing they are guaranteed 1 good player instead of possibly 2 good players.

I LIVE FOR IT

Hynes plays at half forward too, that traditional home of the Bulldogs whipping boy

 

[Charlie Bucket]

There’s been zero talk of it, so I doubt it’s an option, but would you trade 17 & our future 1st for Tigers Pick 11?

If Twomey’s phantom is fairly spot on,
11 -> 14
17 -> 20

At 14, we have the choice of Reid, Berry, Hotton whereas Tigers drop to 20 and likely snag one of Shanahan, Armstrong, Whitlock. (Twomey has them taking Shanahan at 14)

Our 2nd round pick still puts us in with a chance to still grab a Hynes/Hannaford type.

2 years of future pick trading comes in next year as well.

Across two drafts, that would be 4 1st rounders for Sanders and Reid/Berry/Hotton.

Unless our recruiters see one of those 3 as a guaranteed 300 game gun, I can’t see it happening.

We should be offering F1 and 2nd or 3rd IF we look to move up this year.

Anything more would be negligent list management. In my opinion.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

I’d actually be fuming if we traded two 1st’s for 11.

If we finish in the same spot next year, we essentially handover pick 10 next year, for pick 11 this year. Plus we also handover another 1st rounder.

Finish 4th and we handover a 1st rounder for a 4 pick upgrade that won’t even be a top 10 pick.

Power would be blacklisted from the industry if he pulled the trigger on that.