List Mgmt. 2024 Draft Thread

[_Mike_]

FYI

Will add a 2024 NAB Draft & Trade tracker thread, stickied.

Tag me when we have a confirmed trade/draft and I will update the thread accordingly

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Also has very good forward instincts as he has grown 7-8cm over the last 12 months and was a key forward prior to this year.

What’s his draft range?

 

[Hoges64]

What’s his draft range?

I'd have thought Rookie or very late prior to this, but sounds like someone could take a stab in the late 40's - early 50's...

 

[TiAn_]

My final 3 round phantom for this year for those interested.

1. Richmond - Sam Lalor
2. North Melbourne - Finn O'Sullivan
3. Carlton - Jagga Smith
4. Adelaide - Sid Draper
5. Lions - Levi Ashcroft (Match)
6. Melbourne - Alix Tauru
7. Richmond - Harvey Langford
8. Suns - Leo Lombard (Match)
9. St Kilda - Tobie Travaglia
10. St Kilda - Josh Smillie
11. Melbourne - Bo Allan
12. Richmond - Jobe Shanahan
13. Richmond - Murphy Reid
14. West Coast - Xavier Lindsay
15. Essendon - Isaac Kako (Match)
16. Port Adelaide - Joe Berry
17. Lions - Sam Marshall (Match)
18. Fremantle - Taj Hotton
19. GWS - Cooper Hynes
20. GWS - Oliver Hannaford
21. Western Bulldogs - Jesse Datolli
22. Richmond - Harry Armstrong
23. Sydney - Jack Whitlock
24. Richmond - Jonty Faull
25. GWS - Matt Whitlock
26. Sydney - Luke Trainor
27. Richmond - Harry Oliver
28. Richmond - Alex Dodson
29. Western Bulldogs - Christian Moraes
30. West Coast - Hamish Davis
31. Port Adelaide - Ned Bowman
32. Fremantle - Harry O'Farrell
33. Carlton - Ben Camporeale (match)
34. St Kilda - Jasper Alger
35. Hawthorn - Harry O'Farrell
36. Western Bulldogs - Angus Clarke
37. Port Adelaide - Noah Mraz
38. GWS - Jasper Alger
39. Essendon - Hugh Boxshall
40. Sydney - Jack Ough
41. Geelong - Lachie Jaques
42. Essendon - Kayle Gerreyn
43. St Kilda - Luke Urquhart
44. Western Bulldogs - Sam Davidson
45. Port Adelaide - Cody Angove
46. Sydney - Joel Cochran (Match)
47. St Kilda - Lennox Hoffman (Match)
48. Collingwood - James Barrat
49. Essendon - Clancy Dennis
50. Essendon - Lucca Grego
51. Collingwood - Tom Sims
52. GWS - Will Hayes
53. Geelong - Xavier Ivisic
54. Lions - Riley Bice
55. Collingwood - Rhys Unwin

No bid on Adrian Cole?

 

[TiAn_]

I’d feel a lot better about Dattoli if he was quick. He just seems to me like a duplication of what we already have in West.

 

[TBOW]

ESPN have put up a full phantom including a stab at some live trades.

ESPN's full, final Phantom Draft - every pick, every trade, every bid

It's draft day! Seventy-one picks, nine bids, four live trades, and a whole lot of drama is being predicted in ESPN's full, final Phantom ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft.

www.espn.com.au

The big trade is St.Kilda trading pick 10 to GWS and picking up Murphy Reid and Harry Armstrong at picks 18 and 19.
I wouldn't be surprised if St.Kilda went for something like this as they are 2 highly rated Sandringham boys who St.Kilda do love to target. It would be a bold call as both those players could be gone earlier, although St.Kilda still may prefer two picks to one.

It would be an unfortunate result for us, as in this draft without the trade Reid would likely slip through to us.

 

[Doggy]

ESPN have put up a full phantom including a stab at some live trades.

ESPN's full, final Phantom Draft - every pick, every trade, every bid

It's draft day! Seventy-one picks, nine bids, four live trades, and a whole lot of drama is being predicted in ESPN's full, final Phantom ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft.

www.espn.com.au

The big trade is St.Kilda trading pick 10 to GWS and picking up Murphy Reid and Harry Armstrong at picks 18 and 19.
I wouldn't be surprised if St.Kilda went for something like this as they are 2 highly rated Sandringham boys who St.Kilda do love to target. It would be a bold call as both those players could be gone earlier, although St.Kilda still may prefer two picks to one.

It would be an unfortunate result for us, as in this draft without the trade Reid would likely slip through to us.

This would be very St Kilda. They love going for those we like. Just like Hawthorn and trade targets.

 

[Mojorisin]

I’d feel a lot better about Dattoli if he was quick. He just seems to me like a duplication of what we already have in West.

I think he is a fair bit faster then West although not exceptionally quick.

 

[Mojorisin]

No bid on Adrian Cole?

I think if Cole, Welsh, Logan Smith and Lucas Camporeale get bids they will come in the fourth round but a few may slip through completely.

 

[Testekill]

I’d feel a lot better about Dattoli if he was quick. He just seems to me like a duplication of what we already have in West.

If he was a quick genuine crumber then I'd be happy but Cody genuinely has more of a ground game than him and that's his biggest weakness.

 

[Mojorisin]

If he was a quick genuine crumber then I'd be happy but Cody genuinely has more of a ground game than him and that's his biggest weakness.

His ground ball game and defensive intent are the two things that turn me away. They're the same two things that lost us games the last couple seasons.

 

[bulldogs201616]

So what's the plan if Berry or Murphy don't slip we go with Hynes or Daltonti?

 

[Mofra]

So what's the plan if Berry or Murphy don't slip we go with Hynes or Daltonti?

We reach for some kid nobody here rates, and he goes on to be a star (e.g. Bontempelli)

 

[Bulldogs85]

Cal mentioned that Mitch Wallis will be presenting our Jumper tonight

 

[bobs head soup]

I'm still not wrapt in Dattoli, but am warming to him a little bit.

I think his lack of a ground game is being overblown. He played wing/half forward in a number of games towards the end of this year and did well, averaging 23 touches and getting as many as 35.

In the finals he was laying 5-6 tackles and was 2nd to Jagga Smith in metres gained in his team's last final.

The highlights packages, particularly Vic metro, tend to focus on the marking, partly because he mainly played deep forward and because they're an easier edit.

I can see him as being effective as that high half forward role that Macrae/Daniel/Smith have opened up.

As a linking, marking option pushing up to the wings and the contest, more than a pure small forward as such.

 

[weltschmerz]

ESPN have put up a full phantom including a stab at some live trades.

ESPN's full, final Phantom Draft - every pick, every trade, every bid

It's draft day! Seventy-one picks, nine bids, four live trades, and a whole lot of drama is being predicted in ESPN's full, final Phantom ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft.

www.espn.com.au

The big trade is St.Kilda trading pick 10 to GWS and picking up Murphy Reid and Harry Armstrong at picks 18 and 19.
I wouldn't be surprised if St.Kilda went for something like this as they are 2 highly rated Sandringham boys who St.Kilda do love to target. It would be a bold call as both those players could be gone earlier, although St.Kilda still may prefer two picks to one.

It would be an unfortunate result for us, as in this draft without the trade Reid would likely slip through to us.

Even with that, I like this draft. Hynes, Oliver, Boxshall, Jaques, and Angove would be a great haul with Oliver being my pick of the bunch, we need his toughness.

 

[Bulldogs85]

A few Draft pictures the club put up have a look at Richard’s magnificent red hair

 

[Mofra]

Even with that, I like this draft. Hynes, Oliver, Boxshall, Jaques, and Angove would be a great haul with Oliver being my pick of the bunch, we need his toughness.

We'll find a gem late. I can feel it in my bones. Someone who knows far more than me suggested Robbie Worrall as a small forward crumber

 

[TBOW]

So what's the plan if Berry or Murphy don't slip we go with Hynes or Daltonti?

I see upside in Hynes, Dattoli I just don't see any real weapons. There is obviously something there because he is consistently rated around our pick, but I don't know what he becomes. Dylan Moore?

 

[weltschmerz]

So what's the plan if Berry or Murphy don't slip we go with Hynes or Daltonti?

Hynes would be my preference out of those two as I think his floor might be lower but his ceiling is higher. I'd take Harrison Oliver over either of them though.

 

[Mofra]

I see upside in Hynes, Dattoli I just don't see any real weapons. There is obviously something there because he is consistently rated around our pick, but I don't know what he becomes. Dylan Moore?

I think it's his ability to be a bit 'slippery' and find space. Shame he didn't test at the combine.
To the eyeball I guess he can cover the ground ok.

If we take him, I'd hope we look at a crumber late or in the rookie draft.

 

[TBOW]

That’s a pretty decent game.
Cant see him ever being a defensive beast but he seems to go when its his turn. He wont play if he doesn’t run back, its a mindset thing as you’ve suggested and not an uncommon one at CTL level. That will change pretty quickly when you are playing in the two’s and getting explicit feedback as to that being why.


I read that and think there is plenty to work with at pick 29. Fact is the better list fits appear to be gone just before our first and second picks.

I think Hynes and Moraes still improve our depth and fill list needs if that’s how it ends up.
Freijah looks too composed and clean down back to stick out on the wing at the moment, another winger is required and this fella has plenty of runs on the board and good physical profile for the position.

We would all love a small forward/high half forward/pressure forward but if there is no quality option available then so be it. Sort out some other needs. Riley Garcia, Rhylee West, Cody Weightman can hold the fort for a while longer. Not convinced by any of the later options in this position. Anyone like a small forward late?

Other than the lack of improvement I don't understand the dislike of Moraes. He has had some massive games and looks very capable of being a solid wingman.

I get that raw is sexier in an outside type but I expect he could develop into an AFL wigman quite quickly. And I still think we are desperate for a talented natural winger.

I'd be happy of we took him in the second round.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Reid is slipping to our pick I can feel it in my gut (I currently have massive stomach pain from my protein shake)

 

[flipper83]

I see upside in Hynes, Dattoli I just don't see any real weapons. There is obviously something there because he is consistently rated around our pick, but I don't know what he becomes. Dylan Moore?

EDPS had Dattoli in the top 5 for disposal in this draft class. I think my concern is that he doesn't seem to have a clear position. Not zippy or crafty enough as a forward and perhaps a bit undersized to end up a mid. Maybe can play as a high half forward but those positions require some pretty high end running ability which I don't think he has.

 

[TBOW]

Fox has us strongly linked to Davis which will no doubt please a few on here.

Tigers ponder bold play amid mystery over possible slider and late trades: Late AFL Draft Whispers

Tigers ponder bold play amid mystery over possible slider, late trades: Latest Draft Mail

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[0utsider]

EDPS had Dattoli in the top 5 for disposal in this draft class. I think my concern is that he doesn't seem to have a clear position. Not zippy or crafty enough as a forward and perhaps a bit undersized to end up a mid. Maybe can play as a high half forward but those positions require some pretty high end running ability which I don't think he has.

Not having a clear best position can be considered a strength in a Luke Beveridge side. For better or worse our whole team seems to be picked more on assigning specific attributes to certain areas on the ground rather than perceived best role.