List Mgmt. 2024 Draft/Trade/FA Thread – Tom Campbell the first (of many) big fish to join the Dees 🐟🎣

[Scythe94]

Confirmed outs:

• Angus Brayshaw (Retired)
• Ben Brown (Retired)
• Lachie Hunter (Retired)
• Josh Schache (Delisted)
• Kyah Farris-White (Delisted)

Confirmed ins:

• Tom Campbell (Free Agent)

 

[booshboy]

If we could trade Clarry for F1 or R1 pick this year and open up 1-1.1m in cap space would you:

A) trade for Dan Houston with Clarry and Nibs picks (F1 + 28) and pay him 8-900k so we still have ~200k spare

or

B) keep the picks, hit the draft and bank the cap

B

 

[Bluelegs]

If we could trade Clarry for F1 or R1 pick this year and open up 1-1.1m in cap space would you:

A) trade for Dan Houston with Clarry and Nibs picks (F1 + 28) and pay him 8-900k so we still have ~200k spare

or

B) keep the picks, hit the draft and bank the cap

You can't bank the cap with the floor the way it is.

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Mich0]

Anyone catch Lambs interview? Sounds like he has SFA planned and isn’t entertaining anything.

 

[Lord Nev]

 

[Scythe94]

GEELONG list manager Andrew Mackie

Andrew Mackie

Age

40

Ht

193cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

346.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

says the club's interest in Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

was "fleeting" and the Cats are keen to put any trade talk to bed.

Oliver met with the Cats last week before Melbourne president Brad Green

Brad Green

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

5.8

3star

HB

1.4

2star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.4

5star

seemingly shut down any trade prospects over the weekend.

Mackie says the Cats have moved on from the possibility of recruiting the star Demon.

"Melbourne has come out and had their stance on it and we're respectful of that," Mackie told Trade Radio.

"He's got six years to go on a contract so from our end, it was fleeting.

"When he was up for a catch up, we obliged. It's always time well spent ... but we'll just put it to bed." - Martin Smith

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[Bluelegs]

GEELONG list manager Andrew Mackie says the club's interest in Clayton Oliver was "fleeting" and the Cats are keen to put any trade talk to bed.

Oliver met with the Cats last week before Melbourne president Brad Green seemingly shut down any trade prospects over the weekend.

Mackie says the Cats have moved on from the possibility of recruiting the star Demon.

"Melbourne has come out and had their stance on it and we're respectful of that," Mackie told Trade Radio.

"He's got six years to go on a contract so from our end, it was fleeting.

"When he was up for a catch up, we obliged. It's always time well spent ... but we'll just put it to bed." - Martin Smith

Trade Talk LIVE: Pies eye Port star, Cats slam compo picks

Follow all the news and live updates as the 2024 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period begins

www.afl.com.au

Pretty funny from Mackie. Trying to sell it like Geelong weren't even that into Oliver.

 

[stEdy]

You can't bank the cap with the floor the way it is.

Sure, what I meant was bank it for another move/front load contracts etc etc

 

[dazzledavey36]

 

[demon21]

**** Tim Lamb and this trade period.

Another year where SFA is done all whilst watching the likes of Collingwood and Geelong improve their list.

What do you want him to do if no decent player wants to join us while our club is a mess.

 

[stEdy]

Tommy Campbell the big fish you beauty

 

[Daemon]

Anyone catch Lambs interview? Sounds like he has SFA planned and isn’t entertaining anything.

**** Tim Lamb and this trade period.

Another year where SFA is done all whilst watching the likes of Collingwood and Geelong improve their list.

Do we want to sell the farm in terms of picks for 27 year Olds? In this case you can't criticise Lamb because he is "doing something". Or do we want to revitalise the list via the draft? In this case Lamb is apparently useless because he is doing nothing.

I am quite happy with the "do little" approach. Much rather JT target the guys he wants and start the rebuild than kid ourselves we are still in the premiership window by topping up (only to properly bottom out when Tassie hits the league).

DO NOTHING TIM LAMB! (please).

 

[Bluelegs]

Is it just me or do a bunch of clubs have completely random list managers, Leppitsch at Collingwood, Dave Misson at St.Kida seem very odd.

 

[Grimey Sylvia]

Is it just me or do a bunch of clubs have completely random list managers, Leppitsch at Collingwood, Dave Misson at St.Kida seem very odd.

Yeah, I think they are just the face of it.

Prob got some quant or supercomputer behind the scenes calculating all the permutations for them. Maybe some A.I. mixed in.

 

[Crusty Demon]

So Collingwood with zero draft capital will nab Perryman and most likely Houston this offseason lol. That's a better haul than what Tim Lamb has managed in 4 offseasons. Absolute scrub of a list manager. We've had clear issues in the front half and midfield yet have done SFA. I don't care how hard a sell it is, if our list manager isn't capable of landing anything decent in 4 years, while watching nearly every club improve their list, then he's gotta go. Throw in the contract debacles. Sheesh. How the hell does he still have a job?

 

[MarcMaverick]

So Collingwood with zero draft capital will nab Perryman and most likely Houston this offseason lol. That's a better haul than what Tim Lamb has managed in 4 offseasons. Absolute scrub of a list manager. We've had clear issues in the front half and midfield yet have done SFA. I don't care how hard a sell it is, if our list manager isn't capable of landing anything decent in 4 years, while watching nearly every club improve their list, then he's gotta go. Throw in the contract debacles. Sheesh. How the hell does he still have a job?

He has pictures.

 

[Crusty Demon]

What do you want him to do if no decent player wants to join us while our club is a mess.

Mate, he hasn't done anything for 4 years. Plus, that's a small club mentality. If a list manager can't sell the club, or can't convince anyone decent to join us while in a premiership window(granted this offseason is different but the last 3 we were well and truly in it), then you move them on and try and get someone in who is capable. Isn't he a fn police officer or some s*? Just his voice infuriates me. Incredibly incompetent. Holding out hope this review will see him gone.

 

[Crusty Demon]

He has pictures.

He and Goody simply have to go..can't stand either of them. Both have f*d us over completely. Pert can redeem himself by giving these two their marching orders immediately after this review.

Wtf is our strategy? If Lamb honestly can't land anyone, then sell the farm and head to the draft. We're losing quality depth or good players and replacing them with duds. Even if we blew the place up, or sold the farm.for Houston it shows we are doing something. The club are just sitting on their hands expecting the same blokes to keep winning games of footy. What's the path here? It's either rebuild or have another serious crack. We just seem to be doing neither last 2 or 3 years.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Mate, he hasn't done anything for 4 years. Plus, that's a small club mentality. If a list manager can't sell the club, or can't convince anyone decent to join us while in a premiership window(granted this offseason is different but the last 3 we were well and truly in it), then you move them on and try and get someone in who is capable. Isn't he a fn police officer or some s*? Just his voice infuriates me. Incredibly incompetent. Holding out hope this review will see him gone.

Well given he's an ex-cop he might have leverage somehow, IDK.

 

[MarcMaverick]

He and Goody simply have to go..can't stand either of them. Both have f*d us over completely. Pert can redeem himself by giving these two their marching orders immediately after this review.

Yep a couple of cue-balls in the corner pocket.

 

[ShadowCat]

Hey guys,

Can someone please explain Tim Lamb to me? He seems like the most out of his depth person I've seen speak in a long time.

Literally just straight up lied when interviewed, and acting like it's all 'hunky dory' at Melbourne, Oliver wasn't offered up for trade, and Oliver is perfectly fine and happy...and it's not unusual that he went and had a meeting with us...after liking an Instagram post about joining us.

I know you had Pert and co. saying 'best culture ever', so it seems aligned with that...but surely you can't believe this crap when all of the aforementioned has taken place?

I actually liked what Morris said better, as it made a lot more sense - 'Pert made contact with a couple of other clubs regarding Oliver, Oliver's management got wind of this and Oliver decided to look at Geelong as a place of interest...once Green and the board got wind of this, they shut it down and made the call that he wouldn't be leaving.'

The above sounds much better, and at least admits fault/dedication to player, rather than 'nope never happened, nothing to see here...he loves us and everything is fine - insert dog sitting in fiery room with coffee cup gif

 

[Bluelegs]

So Collingwood with zero draft capital will nab Perryman and most likely Houston this offseason lol. That's a better haul than what Tim Lamb has managed in 4 offseasons. Absolute scrub of a list manager. We've had clear issues in the front half and midfield yet have done SFA. I don't care how hard a sell it is, if our list manager isn't capable of landing anything decent in 4 years, while watching nearly every club improve their list, then he's gotta go. Throw in the contract debacles. Sheesh. How the hell does he still have a job?

How are they getting Houston exactly?

 

[demon21]

Mate, he hasn't done anything for 4 years. Plus, that's a small club mentality. If a list manager can't sell the club, or can't convince anyone decent to join us while in a premiership window(granted this offseason is different but the last 3 we were well and truly in it), then you move them on and try and get someone in who is capable. Isn't he a fn police officer or some s*? Just his voice infuriates me. Incredibly incompetent. Holding out hope this review will see him gone.

He did sell the club by all reports had Houston lined up it fell through cause of the mess off the club, Even when there was reports Melb was going to get Houston bring in good player supporters where still whinging. Seems whether Melb bring in players or look to hit the draft hard Supporters just complain.

 

[Mich0]

He did sell the club by all reports had Houston lined up it fell through cause of the mess off the club, Even when there was reports Melb was going to get Houston bring in good player supporters where still whinging. Seems whether Melb bring in players or look to hit the draft hard Supporters just complain.

Because we are 14th with no clear list strategy as our list continues to degrade while our competitors consistently improve there’s around us.

The Lamb bashing here is 100% on the money, bloke is just going about the motions trying to survive another day.