List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[giantsully]

This trade period has sucked, not for the Swans, I just mean in general. Can't remember a more boring one. I'm sure there has been.

It really has.

 

[Kbroome]

People complain regardless, I like it being 10 days as it allows more player movement. It will be active today and tomorrow. Obviously Wednesday the big day with deadline

It hasn't allowed more player movement though it just elongates it out. Literally had 5 days of the trade period where no deals were done. 5 days and you get quick movement, like Parker would have already been traded imo

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It hasn't allowed more player movement though it just elongates it out. Literally had 5 days of the trade period where no deals were done. 5 days and you get quick movement, like Parker would have already been traded imo

There's still stuff being done with pick trades which set up the big deals. Personally I'd have it finish Tuesday but much as who cares extra few days of trade talk is good for everyone

 

[Kbroome]

There's still stuff being done with pick trades which set up the big deals. Personally I'd have it finish Tuesday but much as who cares extra few days of trade talk is good for everyone

I just think a Monday through Friday and you have a 5 day trade period that works. No need for 10 days especially when trades can only be discussed on the weekend and not formally done

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I just think a Monday through Friday and you have a 5 day trade period that works. No need for 10 days especially when trades can only be discussed on the weekend and not formally done

More than happy it finishing Monday, but I get why they do this. Already been a trade today

 

[Kbroome]

More than happy it finishing Monday, but I get why they do this. Already been a trade today

Yep and the last 6 days we haven't seen a player move only trading of picks. Thats 60% of the trade period basically being dead given that picks can still be traded later on

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yep and the last 6 days we haven't seen a player move only trading of picks. Thats 60% of the trade period basically being dead given that picks can still be traded later on

Yes we have all the FA moves have been done, that counts whether you like it or not.

 

[Rhino5]

I’d still take WC’s pick either this year or next it is a top 5 selection. Junk picks double figures don’t cut it for Warner.

I’m not across the intricacies of the draft and compo system like others but curious why it would be a given that we’d get the eagles’ best pick next year if Warner played out 2025 here, then left, wouldn’t it be a Dawson situation again? They would know we have no leverage and take that good pick off the table? If it’s a compo situation and we finished in the top half of the ladder, that pick would be garbage as well relative to Chad’s value?

Is the difference that Dawson wasn’t as highly regarded as Chad when we lost him (and no one seemed to appreciate his true value), so it was easier to screw us over?

Regardless, there seems to be no suggestion that he is open to going before 2026…feels like we are going to get dudded again.

 

[SwansLifer]

It's clearly too long. 5 days is more than enough. Player managers and list managers have been clear though, they want it this long for $$$
More eyeballs for longer period.

 

[Superstar swan]

The length will never be reduced , if anything it will be extended. It’s not about efficiency or player movement. The trade period has been monetised. Click bait articles, trade radio, advertising etc.

As long as money is to be made , the afl will capitalise

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I’m not across the intricacies of the draft and compo system like others but curious why it would be a given that we’d get the eagles’ best pick next year if Warner played out 2025 here, then left, wouldn’t it be a Dawson situation again? They would know we have no leverage and take that good pick off the table? If it’s a compo situation and we finished in the top half of the ladder, that pick would be garbage as well relative to Chad’s value?

Is the difference that Dawson wasn’t as highly regarded as Chad when we lost him (and no one seemed to appreciate his true value), so it was easier to screw us over?

Regardless, there seems to be no suggestion that he is open to going before 2026…feels like we are going to get dudded again.

Unlike Adelaide WC aren't going to you know what us. Freo's picks are utter trash. I'm hoping they waste them all on Bolton, etc so they are left with nothing of value.

Chad isn't Free Agency so that's irrelevant to him, it's a trade or PSD (won't happen) or a National draft nomination (with terms, Luke Ball the last instance this occurred it's extremely rare)

 

[ashep]

If you're treating the trade period as a source of entertainment then that's a you issue.

The deals that are going to get done will happen whether it's 48hrs or 6 weeks.

 

[Bloods86]

I’m not across the intricacies of the draft and compo system like others but curious why it would be a given that we’d get the eagles’ best pick next year if Warner played out 2025 here, then left, wouldn’t it be a Dawson situation again? They would know we have no leverage and take that good pick off the table? If it’s a compo situation and we finished in the top half of the ladder, that pick would be garbage as well relative to Chad’s value?

Is the difference that Dawson wasn’t as highly regarded as Chad when we lost him (and no one seemed to appreciate his true value), so it was easier to screw us over?

Regardless, there seems to be no suggestion that he is open to going before 2026…feels like we are going to get dudded again.

It's definitely a risk. There's no reason Eagles would have to offer us any early first rounder or multiple firsts next year, unless they feel like they want to be seen as fair. I don't know if they'd be at Adelaide levels, but I could see just a late first via swaps and a 2nd, or their future 1st (assuming they think they'd improve) and a later pick.

Dawson was certainly highly rated by us.

We will have few friends in the media to call for a fair trade, as if that matters anyway.

 

[SwansLifer]

Geez Trade Radio doing the negotiating for Geelong. Trying to downplay Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

.
Think they mentioned his ACL no less than 5 times in the last 5 minutes.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Geez Trade Radio doing the negotiating for Geelong. Trying to downplay Bailey Smith.
Think they mentioned his ACL no less than 5 times in the last 5 minutes.

Don't think 17 is that bad an offer anyway, BUT I do get it from both ends.

Still think if the Dogs are smart take the Cats future 1 if they don't want 17 this year. Alternatively maybe 17 plus a swap in the 2nds/3rd next year might be a happy medium.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I just think a Monday through Friday and you have a 5 day trade period that works. No need for 10 days especially when trades can only be discussed on the weekend and not formally done

Agreed.

The trade period is like most basketball games - you may as well not bother with the first 3 quarters.

 

[TasSixer]

Geez Trade Radio doing the negotiating for Geelong. Trying to downplay Bailey Smith.
Think they mentioned his ACL no less than 5 times in the last 5 minutes.

That ACL of course brought to you by continental tyres

 

[WillHayward]

Only small forwards on their list are Higgins and Collard.
Mids that can play forward are Hugo Garcia & Darcy Wilson.

The rest are wingers that should be playing on the wing only.

Think they need a genuine small forward

Dan Butler

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Pick 9 has been traded by Essendon for a bunch of points for the Kako bid, taking Melbourne's f1

 

[Kbroome]

Agreed.

The trade period is like most basketball games - you may as well not bother with the first 3 quarters.

There are a lot of sports that you can honestly just wait for the announcer to scream and then look up as that is the only highlights of it all. Thats what it feels like for the trade period. Wait 2 days for the official announcement as nothing much happens in between

 

[bedford]

Don't think 17 is that bad an offer anyway, BUT I do get it from both ends.

Still think if the Dogs are smart take the Cats future 1 if they don't want 17 this year. Alternatively maybe 17 plus a swap in the 2nds/3rd next year might be a happy medium.

Smith wouldn't be welcome with us as we have a no dickhead policy and he is one

 

[rustycrate]

Geez Trade Radio doing the negotiating for Geelong. Trying to downplay Bailey Smith.
Think they mentioned his ACL no less than 5 times in the last 5 minutes.

I don't rate Bailey Smith. Sure, he gets a lot of the ball. But he is not damaging with the ball. I think I read somewhere he has one of the lowest disposal rates to advantage. He reminds me of Tom Rockliff. Though I rate Tom much higher. High possession getters but low impact on the outcome of a game. Good luck Geelong.

 

[bedford]

Sam Edmund saying he's heard from a manager today could be huge

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Smith wouldn't be welcome with us as we have a no dickhead policy and he is one

I really hate this policy just saying, I get it but I hate it if you know what I mean. Unfortnately the same token we won't get Stringer, I'd much rather him than 3/4 of our forwards.

 

[Kbroome]

Hypothetical (Very)

Ladhams to St Kilda given they have pulled out of the Soldo conversation