List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[tombomb]

There's no reason McVeigh can't organise the team to play in the same game style as the seniors while using the magnets creatively to provide development opportunities.
For instance Green can play some games as a back, some as a forward as the second ruck for about 25% game time. Ladhams and Stretch can alternatively take the 75% ruck time and when not rucking play as a tall forward. It ain't that hard.
It's difficult to understand why Truslove didn't.

I am not worried about game style. I am more concerned why we draft players and then seemingly make no effort in the vfl to get them involved in the game.

If Konstanty or Vickery aren't getting much of the ball as small forwards or defenders, why not put them in the middle and give them an opportunity to show if they are up to it?! Instead they just spend 2 years standing around watching the play and then we delist them, while we play top-up players in the middle.

I can see it already happening with Green where they are just going to stuff around with him playing on the fringes and then delist him or he asks for a trade.

I just hope that McVeigh being coach is a sign that the club wants the VFL team to be used to develop players for the senior team, not for whatever it has been getting used for in the past few years. But I don't trust anything really with this club at the moment.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ladhams is horrendous as a tall forward. Plays like an Under 12. Much better as a first ruck.

Both versions of Ladhams are versions of horrendous

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Ladhams is horrendous as a tall forward. Plays like an Under 12. Much better as a first ruck.

Agreed at AFL level. At VFL level, he's good enough as a forward to spend time there to allow Green time in the ruck to develop.

 

[Kiama Chris]

I am not worried about game style. I am more concerned why we draft players and then seemingly make no effort in the vfl to get them involved in the game.

My comment was "use the magnets to provide development opportunities" which is exactly what you're saying.
Green is very tall. His opportunities will be to play tall roles. More regular time rucking seems pretty obvious but not to the extent of damaging him against guys like Soldo or Ned Moyle.
Lots of people have bemoaned the lack of midfield time afforded Magor or wing HBF time for Vickery for instance and have done so most of the season. Konstanty has at least played his position when fit. Midfield maybe? I dunno.
As to "game style" the VFL team had no discernible game plan which again was remarked upon many times. Perhaps it would be good if their game plan looked something like the seniors wherever possible.
I think we all hope Macca will sort a lot of this stuff out.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

If we think we need 4 rucks on the list (I think 3 is enough), I would de-list McAndrew and rookie a state league player.

I've always liked the look of Crossley and from a recent interview I read, sounds like he's matured from his misspent youth and is desperate for another go. He is clearly a better player than McAndrew and has the added bonus of being able to play forward. He's only one year older than McAndrew and having been brought up on footy, can execute basic skills which sadly for Stretch, still have not reached even VFL standard.

I throw Crossley's name up not necessarily as the only option as there would surely be others who would be an upgrade on Stretch. But he's one that comes to my mind.

 

[wolftone57]

Time to lose Ladhams. He is useless at AFL level. He does not have enough footy smarts & has a bad attitude. Lost that game at Adelaide Oval. We were fighting back when he was involved in two incidents, one with Wines & I can't remember who the other was. Got suspended. Then he commits another unforgivable sun in the Reserves, a head high deliberate hit. He is so smart he ran straight at the guy.

He is a liability & I would rather we developed the other two. Big Mac will have another pre-season & he will put on some bulk, not much but some. He reminds me a bit of Greg Stafford

Greg Stafford

Age

50

Ht

204cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.3

3star

HO

11.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.2

4star

HO

5.8

5star

. He has a great ability to hit taps to advantage, he now needs to learn to win the ball around the ground. That only happens if you are played in the ruck.

Green, is a newbie, he obviously has huge talent. His taps also go to advantage & with a second pre-season he will stack on some bulk to help him body opponents. Let's play these two exciting young rucks. Green can take a grab forward or back & so can Big Mac. Why not take advantage of talent, footy intelligence & let the Dumbo go.

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[Dubsforsam1]

Seems here that everyone defines players/squads etc by one game.
We had the top scoring offence in the AFL by points with the 7th best defence by points conceded but everyone seems to think it's the attacks fault we lost