List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

What should we get with our first two picks as they stand

  • Best Available for both

    Votes: 25 29.4%
  • Small forward/Small Defender

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • KPD/Small Forward

    Votes: 10 11.8%
  • Mid/KPD

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • KPD/Defender

    Votes: 18 21.2%
  • KPF/Small Forward

    Votes: 7 8.2%
  • KPF/Mid

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • KPF/Defender

    Votes: 23 27.1%

  • Total voters
    85

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Hayward is for home & away games.
Lohmann is for finals.
Two totally different players.

Hayward was good in finals well he wasn’t in the shocking list on GF day at least
 
I find it interesting that Aaron Francis is apparently still without a contract for next season.

It may be we simply can't agree terms, but I wonder if we have our eye on a potential DFA and that is the hold up?

According to SEN players still uncontracted at other clubs;

Coll; Ned Long, Reef McInnes
Freo; Tom Emmett, Odin Jones, Max Knobel
Geel; Patrick Dangerfield, Mitch Duncan, Rhys Stanley (I assume all 3 will re-contracted).
GWS; Josh Fahey
Haw; Josh Bennetts
Melb; Marty Hore
North; Cooper Harvey, Charlie Lazzaro, Blake Drury
Port; Logan Evans
Rich; Kamdyn McIntosh, Mate Colina (to be re-listed after the draft), Thomson Dow
St K; Ben Paton, Jack Hayes, Tim Membrey, Olli Hotton
WCE; Luke Edwards

Hardly a stellar bunch (and obviously excludes players already delisted).

Full list (incl delisted players);

Ben Paton could be brought in as a lockdown small and Lazzaro has impressed me when I've seen him at AFL/VFL level.
(I'm not really expecting others to agree with me on the latter).

FWIW DFA period commences 1 November.

EDIT; And as I was typing Lazzaro has just been delisted.
Logan Evans and Ben Paton interest me the most out of those names
 

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0 in the 2nd half

I didn’t say he was good in the GF hey let’s be real none were when Fox is your best or close to it, it’s a shocking day. He wasn’t horrible though. Had a good prelim and qualifying though. Medium forward is probably the hardest role when your side is being smoked. He was okay.
 
Brisbane, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Sydney and West Coast are likely to use three or four picks.

Cal Twomey's "The best next 10" list:

Ough sounds kinda like what we need
 
A few of the same players on Cal's next best list getting also getting named by team mates in this:

I liked James Barrat as a "medium" forward option (at 193cm) at the beginning of the year, but can really play in defence - interesting to note the move to defence was an "AFL club-led push"...

Also of note, Sandringham Dragons forward Harry Armstrong said: “I think Luke Kennedy from Sandy. He’s a two-way runner and he’s the best kick in the team.”
 
Folau was bad but least they didn’t stuff their whole draft hand up and boy it’s not hard to get most of those right. Rather any team win than GC after the AFL gave them a do over
Just wondering why you said GWS didn't waste their money on a NRL player like GC did? Folau's contract was supposed to be about $6mil, so I am assuming you had a mental blank or were being very revisionist.
 
Just wondering why you said GWS didn't waste their money on a NRL player like GC did? Folau's contract was supposed to be about $6mil, so I am assuming you had a mental blank or were being very revisionist.

GWS did too but at least they structured the rebuild right- Ward etc were a bucket better than getting Ablett for starters. Not having Clayton stuff their list helped. Still doesn’t mean they deserve a do over hope half of them leave
 

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Nothing wrong with it you have to constantly get kids in as it allows your list to be even so there’s not mass retirements and nothing in between
He meant, it wasn't about Parker in the sense, his post was in reply to the suggestion about was signing all the players we did during the season the right choice, and instead being a better strategy to potentially letting them walk for draft picks.
 
He meant, it wasn't about Parker in the sense, his post was in reply to the suggestion about was signing all the players we did during the season the right choice, and instead being a better strategy to potentially letting them walk for draft picks.

Fair misread the first post all good
 
Brisbane, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Sydney and West Coast are likely to use three or four picks.

Cal Twomey's "The best next 10" list:
As soon as we were pushing hard for pick 44 it was clear that we had 4 picks in site.
 
If Richmond are open to pick 19 + F1 for pick 11 you'd take it with open arms.

We won't be trading our F1. Tigers won't shift down to pick 21 ish (at best) and 20+ in an average draft (next year- it's heavily compromised with academy, etc). Terrible trade on both ends. We will need our F1 to either split to seconds next year or match our academy, we literally need MORE points rather than less. If we go in the conservative route we have one rated in the top 10, one in the top 20 and one in the top 30 to match. The new matching rules come in only the first 3 rounds are worth points (rather than 4 rounds this year), and the new points curve is in place.

It's also a woeful trade from Richmond what's the point they have two picks in our range anyway they don't need another one. Could easily get Armstrong or the best KPF at 11.
 
As soon as we were pushing hard for pick 44 it was clear that we had 4 picks in site.
Not exactly given that we could trade it out mid draft night but could also trade up with our two firsts. But i think given we left the trade period with 3 picks that will be inside the top 40 alongside our pick to match Cochran it gives strong indications of using 4 ND picks
 
Not exactly given that we could trade it out mid draft night but could also trade up with our two firsts. But i think given we left the trade period with 3 picks that will be inside the top 40 alongside our pick to match Cochran it gives strong indications of using 4 ND picks

Yeah think you are bang on, probably is half linked to where Cochran falls, we are definately taking 3 picks before him though. We will be hoping to get lucky and no one bids before the rookie draft, in which case take the one at 56 or whatever it is too, have a hail mary swing at some specific type. That would be the absolute ideal draft, whether it's remotely realistic not sure, you seem to rate Cochran way more than I do, as long as we take 3 live picks before him as a minimum I'm fine matching with pick 56
 
We won't be trading our F1. Tigers won't shift down to pick 21 ish (at best) and 20+ in an average draft (next year- it's heavily compromised with academy, etc). Terrible trade on both ends. We will need our F1 to either split to seconds next year or match our academy, we literally need MORE points rather than less. If we go in the conservative route we have one rated in the top 10, one in the top 20 and one in the top 30 to match. The new matching rules come in only the first 3 rounds are worth points (rather than 4 rounds this year), and the new points curve is in place.

It's also a woeful trade from Richmond what's the point they have two picks in our range anyway they don't need another one. Could easily get Armstrong or the best KPF at 11.
We can work out for points later. Richmond may not want to go all in this yes draft for their rebuild and want players next as well.
 
We can work out for points later. Richmond may not want to go all in this yes draft for their rebuild and want players next as well.

They are not trading their top 3 picks down you can take that to the bank. Only way they trade picks 6 or 11 are up to North's pick 2. It makes zero sense for Richmond. They can do the same thing you want with their last two first rounders, and they would not do that. Richmond will be keeping picks 6 10, 18 as a combination may be needed to get pick 2 from North Melbourne if they decide to go that way.

Put it this way Richmond are trading pick 11 (13 or 14 live) for our first which could be 25 plus next year. Do you honestly think that's even close to fair? Richmond don't care about points so don't use the 'oh it's worth this many points". We all know the curve is a load of rubbish.

Put simply, keep going Richmond would require more, they would only do that type of deal for a club who didn't make finals
 
Yeah think you are bang on, probably is half linked to where Cochran falls, we are definately taking 3 picks before him though. We will be hoping to get lucky and no one bids before the rookie draft, in which case take the one at 56 or whatever it is too, have a hail mary swing at some specific type. That would be the absolute ideal draft, whether it's remotely realistic not sure, you seem to rate Cochran way more than I do, as long as we take 3 live picks before him as a minimum I'm fine matching with pick 56
I just don't see us combining the two firsts given we don't trade we GWS and it would be hard to trade up to like anything higher than 14. To also trade #22 on its own it would have to be like an F2 and F3.
 
I didn’t say he was good in the GF hey let’s be real none were when Fox is your best or close to it, it’s a shocking day. He wasn’t horrible though. Had a good prelim and qualifying though. Medium forward is probably the hardest role when your side is being smoked. He was okay.
Home game star.
 

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