Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[Jamz]

"Historically they don't get off the plane and win the Cup"

It's happened before.

Wouldn't have happened many times, I am talking about when their first appearance in a race is the Melbourne Cup.

 

[diggo1]

I’m not convinced Buckaroo will stay. In the Caulfield Cup, they really slowed down mid race which allowed him to conserve some energy.

If the Melbourne Cup is a sit and sprint, he should win. But if it’s a proper staying test, I have my doubts.

 

[Jugada]

I’m not convinced Buckaroo will stay. In the Caulfield Cup, they really slowed down mid race which allowed him to conserve some energy.

If the Melbourne Cup is a sit and sprint, he should win. But if it’s a proper staying test, I have my doubts.

Can't see there being any strong tempo at Flemington either though

 

[diggo1]

Can't see there being any strong tempo at Flemington either though

Yeah I was just going through the runners trying to find where the speed will come from. Just Fine? Anyone else?

 

[Jugada]

Yeah I was just going through the runners trying to find where the speed will come from. Just Fine? Anyone else?

That's pretty much it. Point King might go forward in the top few like in the Bart Cummings too. Not many on speed runners though and of them none that will want a strong tempo

 

[Lunchtime]

Wouldn't have happened many times, I am talking about when their first appearance in a race is the Melbourne Cup.

Melbourne Cup Winners: 1st-Up Without Prior Run

2020: Twilight Payment (55.5kg)

2018: Cross Counter (51kg)

2017: Rekindling (51.5kg)

1993: Vintage Crop (55.5kg)

1983: Kiwi (52kg)

All of these winners got off the plane and ran in the Melbourne Cup and won it.

Doesn't happen often but it has happened, especially in the past 7 years.

 

[HeathySure]

Melbourne Cup Winners: 1st-Up Without Prior Run

2020: Twilight Payment (55.5kg)

2018: Cross Counter (51kg)

2017: Rekindling (51.5kg)

1993: Vintage Crop (55.5kg)

1983: Kiwi (52kg)

All of these winners got off the plane and ran in the Melbourne Cup and won it.

Doesn't happen often but it has happened, especially in the past 7 years.

I dont think Kiwi was first up, it had a run around 30 days before i am pretty sure

 

[Lunchtime]

I dont think Kiwi was first up, it had a run around 30 days before i am pretty sure

Kiwi didn't run in Australia prior to Melbourne Cup win. Last run before Cup win was a 2100m hcp event in New Zealand.

 

[HeathySure]

Kiwi didn't run in Australia prior to Melbourne Cup win. Last run before Cup win was a 2100m hcp event in New Zealand.

i thought you meant first up from a spell

 

[Lunchtime]

i thought you meant first up from a spell

I meant up first up in Australia without prior runs leading into the Melbourne Cup.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Is Muramasa going to run in the cup this year. I think it is a very good chance if it makes the field.

 

[Lunchtime]

Interesting article:

Jan Brueghel – Ballydoyle’S Best Cup Chance?

Unbeaten colt Jan Brueghel has the weight of history and kilograms against him in the Melbourne Cup, but he also has immense talent.

www.racingandsports.com.au

 

[dontlimitme]

watch waller absolutely waller everyone on the first tuesday in november

Kova(CAT)lica 101/26 on lads

 

[kicksome]

waller is going into all of my exotics, **** him and **** sheraz

 

[Lunchtime]

waller is going into all of my exotics, ** him and ** sheraz

Yeah big surprise Sheraz placing in last year's Cup.

 

[Lunchtime]

I must admit, I do miss Bart Cummings' presence during the spring carnival (or at other times throughout the year). I know he's been gone since 2015 but racing in Australia doesn't really feel the same.

 

[Jugada]

Eliyass pushing on to the Cup a bit of a surprise. Reckon I would have dropped back to the Champion Stakes with Ceolwulf franking that form

 

[Jamz]

Buckaroo needs the tempo to feature just as much as he wants a slowly run race so it doesn't test his ability to run it out, it's a tough one.

He's a backmarker, they can't crawl up front, he won't get into the race.

 

[Jamz]

Melbourne Cup Winners: 1st-Up Without Prior Run

2020: Twilight Payment (55.5kg)

2018: Cross Counter (51kg)

2017: Rekindling (51.5kg)

1993: Vintage Crop (55.5kg)

1983: Kiwi (52kg)

All of these winners got off the plane and ran in the Melbourne Cup and won it.

Doesn't happen often but it has happened, especially in the past 7 years.

Let's say they started coming over in '83, for the sake of the discussion.

5 times in 40 years and you're being asked to take 5-1.

Yeah, nah.

 

[Jugada]

Buckaroo needs the tempo to feature just as much as he wants a slowly run race so it doesn't test his ability to run it out, it's a tough one.

He's a backmarker, they can't crawl up front, he won't get into the race.

He led and won over a mile. Easily has the ability to sit more forward

 

[Jugada]

Let's say they started coming over in '83, for the sake of the discussion.

5 times in 40 years and you're being asked to take 5-1.

Yeah, nah.

For the sake of discussion should probably look to be a bit more accurate than that

 

[Jamz]

For the sake of discussion should probably look to be a bit more accurate than that

I've just gone off what he's produced.

I know they don't win first up in Australia very often, I don't know how many have done it as favorite. We've seen some all time great flops in the Cup from horses with big reputations over the years, referencing those who started short in the market.

 

[Jugada]

I've just gone off what he's produced.

I know they don't win first up in Australia very often, I don't know how many have done it as favorite. We've seen some all time great flops in the Cup from horses with big reputations over the years, referencing those who started short in the market.

There have been plenty of years in that time with no horse fitting the criteria and also plenty more who ran top 4 suggesting they still ran well. Using just wins as the metric in a sample size that small not the best way to judge imo

 

[FFB1]

Sounds like George off to MV cup

 

[pendlebury_10]

Sounds like George off to MV cup

Wins and progresses to the first Tuesday in November