List Mgmt. 2024 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade & Draft

[MarcMaverick]

Or why you are holding on to Derksen despite him wanting to go to Melbourne.

Thing is, he chose us. Not the other way.

 

[Colonial]

Or why you are holding on to Derksen despite him wanting to go to Melbourne.

Thing is, he chose us. Not the other way.

He is contracted, he already chose us. Be patient and you may still get him next season.

 

[JC100]

Oddly enough I think Jones has the ability to play mid minutes.
Fonti on a wing I can see.
Can't wait to see what Phoenix shows in preseason. Caruso must have seen something special to take him where he did.

I think he has a lot of Brent Daniel’s about him with the quick feet through traffic and evasiveness. Reckon he and Leake will be pushing hard for round 1 25 on the back of big pre seasons.

 

[Danny88]

Or why you are holding on to Derksen despite him wanting to go to Melbourne.

Thing is, he chose us. Not the other way.

Why you holding on Oliver despite him wanting to go to Geelong?

Thing is, he chose them. Not the other way

 

[Andre the Giant]

Or why you are holding on to Derksen despite him wanting to go to Melbourne.

Thing is, he chose us. Not the other way.

Clubs pick players, sell them a dream and then players pick teams.

If you think Melbourne haven’t been into this guy for months, meeting with his manager, their coaches in his ear, recruiters telling him he needs to go then you don’t understand the process.

Derksen didn’t wake up one day and rang Melbourne to say he wants to go there. Managers are always agitating for change and always want their players playing 1sts as that keeps them in lists and gets them bigger deals.

Tom Boyd admitted in an interview last week the Western Bulldogs contacted him halfway through his first year and offered him the 7 million dollar deal. Once he received it he instantly wanted out and agitated for it until he got his way. Then the media and Dogs tried to make it look as a response to Griffen walking out.

These c***s wanted the player and were happy to induce him to break a contract. The AFL should have banned them for years or hurt them like they did the Swans but they did NOTHING. That’s the beauty of being a VFL favourite.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[GWS Goose]

Wasn't he drafted as a mid? Wouldn't be surprised if we trial him in there in the next year or two.

The only games I saw Jones play as a junior were as a mid

 

[Mors]

The only games I saw Jones play as a junior were as a mid

Yeah I remembered correctly. I went back and checked the draft night coverage and they have him listed as a mid.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

Big 3 days and draft for Caruso and those involved in lst management team.Overall I think he has been really good..Interesting though with all the discussion with one wing position not being really been nailed down .I'm still not convinced on why we went for another small forward last year given what we had already on our list.I reckon he must have seen Darcy Wilson as a flight risk as he was and has proved to be the exact hard running endurance beast we need on the other wing to Kelly..I still have high hopes for Gothard it's just we are pretty stacked in that position..

If we nail this draft with our high picks it puts us in a great position especially when u look at how many picks we have before many contending teams have a pick.For instance we have 3 picks before Pies first,2 before Cats first,3 before Hawks,3 before Port,2 before swans and 3 before Dogs.Just need to nail the draft..That's my positive spin on things anyway haha.

 

[PaythePerryman]

Big 3 days and draft for Caruso and those involved in lst management team.Overall I think he has been really good..Interesting though with all the discussion with one wing position not being really been nailed down .I'm still not convinced on why we went for another small forward last year given what we had already on our list.I reckon he must have seen Darcy Wilson as a flight risk as he was and has proved to be the exact hard running endurance beast we need on the other wing to Kelly..I still have high hopes for Gothard it's just we are pretty stacked in that position..

If we nail this draft with our high picks it puts us in a great position especially when u look at how many picks we have before many contending teams have a pick.For instance we have 3 picks before Pies first,2 before Cats first,3 before Hawks,3 before Port,2 before swans and 3 before Dogs.Just need to nail the draft..That's my positive spin on things anyway haha.

Funny given we have up a pick to get Leake instead of Wilson right?

 

[dlanod]

Clubs pick players, sell them a dream and then players pick teams.

If you think Melbourne haven’t been into this guy for months, meeting with his manager, their coaches in his ear, recruiters telling him he needs to go then you don’t understand the process.

Derksen didn’t wake up one day and rang Melbourne to say he wants to go there. Managers are always agitating for change and always want their players playing 1sts as that keeps them in lists and gets them bigger deals.

Was going to post the same but you summed it up better than I was going to.

Derksen isn't nominating Melbourne without plenty of communication with Melbourne. That's happened maybe twice in the two decades I've followed the AFL and both times it fell through (hilariously, as an independent observer). Every time it's because the recruiting club has indicated to the player the contract they can offer or the role they can play or the lifestyle and how that will affect the player.

 

[sydney_gws]

That deal sucks.

It should be peatling,f3 for 46,f2.
Or peatling, f4 for f2,f3.

 

[sydney_gws]

In fairness that one is a bit unusual particularly as he has quite a few in front of him in both defence and in the forwards. I suppose if Jessie got injured he would be one of the guys in the mix.

At the end of the day he’s contracted and perhaps what you have offered isn’t collateral we can use?

Perhaps it could be part of another pick swap where we can get higher up in the draft. We have some picks to play with.

Perhaps if we sign Stringer we let Derksen go to Melbourne. Or as he hasn't played, we get stuff all for him. After playing say 6 games next year, his trade value night be much more.

 

[Colonial]

Perhaps if we sign Stringer we let Derksen go to Melbourne. Or as he hasn't played, we get stuff all for him. After playing say 6 games next year, his trade value night be much more.

Or he gets an opportunity through injuries and all of a sudden his value skyrockets.

 

[Go the Guts]

Agreed. They paid pick 28 for ANB, why Peatling would be worth only 46 is beyond me.

Guessing because Peatling is uncontracted and has had a best season disposal average of 14.
Neal Bullen has 2 more years on his contract to run, is a premiership player and very narrowly missed out on winning his club’s BnF this year, coming 3rd. This proposed deal does seem a bit strange though.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

Like others have said clubs are into players from a long way out usually They would have been in contact with Peatlings manager when he was in the reserves and at periods not even dominating reserves.They rightly assumed,at that stage he would come cheaply in a trade.But he kept playing better and better culminating in 10 coaches votes I think against Brisbane.Crows would have also committed to ANB by then as well...Crows simply weren't prepared with the trade currency required with his late season form uptick.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

Funny given we have up a pick to get Leake instead of Wilson right?

Yeah I know..I was keen on Wilson and was watching him on Podcast with that young popular social media guy with the mullet.Cant remember his name..Was definitely dropping hints about staying in Melbourne.Saw it and thought no way are we drafting him..Like McCartney says we simply can't draft everyone so it's hard to blame Caruso..Can't afford another crying Tanner Bruhn wanting to run home to Mummy at his first opportunity

 

[BarryAglett]

Guessing because Peatling is uncontracted and has had a best season disposal average of 14.
Neal Bullen has 2 more years on his contract to run, is a premiership player and very narrowly missed out on winning his club’s BnF this year, coming 3rd. This proposed deal does seem a bit strange though.

A fair comparison, but you also don't pay 600k for 4 years unless he's a best 23 player in your squad.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Perhaps linked to Peatling

 

[Callums_Guns]

Perhaps linked to Peatling

Crows only taking pick.4 into the draft

 

[PaythePerryman]

Crows only taking pick.4 into the draft

Have they gone a bit early on the top up of experienced players to make a push?

 

[GWS Goose]

For those who believe in omens and stuff.
I had a vivid dream last night (which .is somewhat unusual) of me being in the Giants HQ and Dylan Shiel

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Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

was doing a medical. I asked him if that meant he was going to be a Giant , he gave me a thumbs up.
I don't think I've ever foresaw anything.
This is the opposite of in the know information.

 

[Orange crush]

So crom take 46 off the board for pearling …. We getting their f2 and dees f3?

 

[Mors]

So crom take 46 off the board for pearling …. We getting their f2 and dees f3?

That seems the most likely result. Peatling + late pick for F2 and F3

 

[Giant Strides]

Yep, that was a clear "**** you" from Crows.