List Mgmt. 2024 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade & Draft

[sydney_gws]

Noting that my suggestion regarding Taylor Adams was firmly tongue-in-cheek around the #11 jersey curse, nevertheless, the problem for GWS remains its inability to recruit mid-career players. Whatever the reason - and I think cost of living is the biggest contributing issue - we mainly get cast-offs. Even the guys who have been great for us (Mummy, Shaw, Stevie J, Griffen to a lesser extent) were generally in that position.

Looking around the competition, you're looking at guys like Daniels, Seb Ross and Riley Bonner as "maybe" recruits purely if they want to extend their career. Otherwise, GWS need to be in the ears of players - like other clubs are in the ears of ours - years in advance to persuade them to come to us. But money can't be the major attraction, making it difficult to persuade them.

I wonder if our loss affected Longmires decision to not select Adams.
Our loss was a reminder you just can't be sympathetic in selecting a finals team. Selecting an injured player cost us.
We ran alot in our final, but had 3 players not play 70 % gametime. No wonder the rest where stuffed.

 

[Drummond]

Would Matthew Kennedy be looked at? I like what he’s done with his career. He wants to be played in the midfield rather than up forward. Could do with his contested ball winning.

 

[Mors]

Would Matthew Kennedy be looked at? I like what he’s done with his career. He wants to be played in the midfield rather than up forward. Could do with his contested ball winning.

Can't imagine we wouldn't, he's a local boy (Same junior club as Perryman). He'll probably get more attention and money from some of the vic clubs though.

 

[Giant Strides]

Would Matthew Kennedy be looked at? I like what he’s done with his career. He wants to be played in the midfield rather than up forward. Could do with his contested ball winning.

Apparently wants to stay in Melbourne, though, after his wife recently gave birth.

 

[Giant Strides]

Looking at the players who are out of contract this year, it's pretty slim pickings. No wonder Pez and Cheese are popular and being offered big $.

EH, Jarryd Lyons

17

Jarryd Lyons

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.5

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

21.7

5star

K

14.7

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.1

5star

CL

4.7

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.6

4star

, Jaxon Prior, James Madden, Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Reef McInnes, Will Setterfield

12

Will Setterfield

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.1

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

4.4

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, Nathan O'Driscoll, Mitch Hardie, James Willis, Ted Clohessy, Harry Morrison

1

Harry Morrison

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

13.4

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

18.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

, Marty Hore

27

Marty Hore

Age

28

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

263.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

18.2

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

5.4

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

282.2

5star

, Curtis Taylor

5

Curtis Taylor

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, Blake Drury, Francis Evans, Naoh Cumberland, Thomson Dow, Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

29

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Riley Bonner

36

Riley Bonner

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.1

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

279.8

4star

D

12.3

3star

K

10.3

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

279.8

4star

D

21.4

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

, Seb Ross, Jacob Konstanty, Alex Witherden

23

Alex Witherden

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

15.2

5star

HB

5.5

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

386.5

5star

D

13.0

3star

K

10.0

4star

HB

3.0

2star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.0

1star

MG

201.0

3star

D

24.0

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

380.2

5star

, Coby Burgiel, Josh Rotham

35

Josh Rotham

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

167.2

3star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

157.5

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

168.0

3star

, Alex Keath

42

Alex Keath

Age

32

Ht

198cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.0

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

206.7

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

193.4

3star

D

11.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

165.0

3star

, Dominic Bendendo ...

Washed up, untried, or fringe players unless someone's seeing value that I'm not.

Of course, we could try to pull a contracted player ... but at greater cost generally.

I'd like to see us grab some experience to backfill Pez (presumably) and Cheese, but are we getting value, rather than trying our own players?

 

[Orange Agent]

Can you think of any?

Getting Peatling and Finn's signatures would be top of my list. But I would stop short at being held to ransom by JP's manager which appears to be what is happening. I'm happy with the development of the list and what the coaching staff are able to get out of it. Midway through the season Snooze was really struggling and many wanted him dropped, a change of role and he relished it. I see no reason why we can't use what we have. Some slight tweaks to the structure could free up some guys. A few have suggested Ash goes on ball, it worked this year for Ed Richards. I think HH on Rayner showed he needs to play on smaller opponents, maybe gives a chance for Aleer to come in and pinch hit in the ruck. Another pre-season into Thomas, Leake, Gotthard, Jones, Fonti, Angwin, Wehr, Rowston, Fahey. I just can't see the value we are gonna get from the guys around 30 on decent contracts at other clubs. Unless it's a Snooze situation who wants to come to us, we are better off retaining who doesn't crave the bright lights and big crowds and keep hitting the draft

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[Giant Pete]

We should look to have a starting midfield of Daniels, Green and Callaghan next year… that would be dominant. Have Kelly, Cogs, Peatling through there as well.

This would allow for the inclusion of McMullin, who I think could be very good. I’m also keen to see Gothard get a go in the forward line next year.

I have been impressed with the continued development of Cadman.

 

[SouthernGiant]

If Taylor Adams

3

Taylor Adams

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.9

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.4

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

18.2

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

misses another GF I would approach his management to see if he has any interest in joining the Giants. He would make our team better in 2025

 

[Giant Strides]

So, I reckon EH has committed elsewhere (Suns presumably).

Any thoughts on Alex Witherden as a replacement for Harry Perryman? He is a limited footballer, for sure. Initially went well for Brisbane but pushed out by better players; went to West Coast and has played a decent number of matches there. His stats read pretty close to Pez though.

Riley Bonner is an alternative. Again, a limited footballer. Pushed out by Port previously, and now Saints, but if want to have an experienced backup while we try someone like Connor Stone as a Perryman replacement ...

Other possibilities would be Rory Atkins (Suns) and Jaxon Prior, both of whom I suggest would be a level below Witherden and Bonner.

I'm not particularly enamoured with these guys, but posters are suggesting we get experienced players ... but can't identify who they'd get.

When it comes to the midfield, there's even less options IMHO. Caleb Daniels and Seb Ross are a couple that ... I won't say "stand out", perhaps "are obvious" is better terminology.

 

[Section226]

Lachie Keeffe should be at Tom Wills or Engie right now practicing his set shots.

Apart from sacrificing an animal to the 'footy gods' that is.

 

[Giant Strides]

Lachie Keeffe should be at Tom Wills or Engie right now practicing his set shots.

Apart from sacrificing an animal to the 'footy gods' that is.

Should be a whole zoo full of animals ...

(apologies to the animals)

 

[Orange Agent]

Lachie Keeffe should be at Tom Wills or Engie right now practicing his set shots.

Apart from sacrificing an animal to the 'footy gods' that is.

Or our better kicks be smarter when he marks it and start running to get the handball.

 

[dlanod]

So, I reckon EH has committed elsewhere (Suns presumably).

Any thoughts on Alex Witherden as a replacement for Harry Perryman? He is a limited footballer, for sure. Initially went well for Brisbane but pushed out by better players; went to West Coast and has played a decent number of matches there. His stats read pretty close to Pez though.

Riley Bonner is an alternative. Again, a limited footballer. Pushed out by Port previously, and now Saints, but if want to have an experienced backup while we try someone like Connor Stone as a Perryman replacement ...

Other possibilities would be Rory Atkins (Suns) and Jaxon Prior, both of whom I suggest would be a level below Witherden and Bonner.

I'm not particularly enamoured with these guys, but posters are suggesting we get experienced players ... but can't identify who they'd get.

When it comes to the midfield, there's even less options IMHO. Caleb Daniels and Seb Ross are a couple that ... I won't say "stand out", perhaps "are obvious" is better terminology.

If we're getting an ex-Lion I'd be all over Prior as depth. Witherden might hit the occasional highlight kick but he also has his fair share of clangers and I have more defensive presence at my age with no AFL experience and a bung knee. Prior is super reliable, actually a deceptively good kick, and can play tall in a pinch like he did this year. He just doesn't have any hurt factor but if we can kick him a multi year contract he might be interested. I can't see him breaking into our 23 though.

 

[Giant Pete]

So, I reckon EH has committed elsewhere (Suns presumably).

Any thoughts on Alex Witherden as a replacement for Harry Perryman? He is a limited footballer, for sure. Initially went well for Brisbane but pushed out by better players; went to West Coast and has played a decent number of matches there. His stats read pretty close to Pez though.

Riley Bonner is an alternative. Again, a limited footballer. Pushed out by Port previously, and now Saints, but if want to have an experienced backup while we try someone like Connor Stone as a Perryman replacement ...

Other possibilities would be Rory Atkins (Suns) and Jaxon Prior, both of whom I suggest would be a level below Witherden and Bonner.

I'm not particularly enamoured with these guys, but posters are suggesting we get experienced players ... but can't identify who they'd get.

When it comes to the midfield, there's even less options IMHO. Caleb Daniels and Seb Ross are a couple that ... I won't say "stand out", perhaps "are obvious" is better terminology.

Witherden is horrendous. Can’t believe he is still on a list.

 

[Danny88]

Getting Peatling and Finn's signatures would be top of my list. But I would stop short at being held to ransom by JP's manager which appears to be what is happening. I'm happy with the development of the list and what the coaching staff are able to get out of it. Midway through the season Snooze was really struggling and many wanted him dropped, a change of role and he relished it. I see no reason why we can't use what we have. Some slight tweaks to the structure could free up some guys. A few have suggested Ash goes on ball, it worked this year for Ed Richards. I think HH on Rayner showed he needs to play on smaller opponents, maybe gives a chance for Aleer to come in and pinch hit in the ruck. Another pre-season into Thomas, Leake, Gotthard, Jones, Fonti, Angwin, Wehr, Rowston, Fahey. I just can't see the value we are gonna get from the guys around 30 on decent contracts at other clubs. Unless it's a Snooze situation who wants to come to us, we are better off retaining who doesn't crave the bright lights and big crowds and keep hitting the draft

I have no doubts about the emerging talent and the great potential growth in it. I like leake in particular

But it’s those mid 20’s players in the peak of their careers that are the most consistent and that’s what we are floundering trying to discuss

Draft is deep apparently, maybe we just go there

 

[Giant Strides]

Draft is deep apparently, maybe we just go there

No-one seems able to suggest names that they'd be happy to trade in, so I do think the draft will be our focus.

Presuming that we get end of first round picks for Pez & Cheese (ideally, we'd get band 1 for Pez, but I'll be conservative), the guys I like at this stage are:

• Xavier Lindsay: outside mid/half back who looks capable of becoming a balanced mid in future, accurate kicker
• Harrison Oliver: small defender who brings a balanced game, can defend and counterattack
• Kayle Gerryn: big lump who looks like he can become a forward/ruck to completement

Still need to identify a KPD; I wasn't expecting to lose Derksen, but we'll need a solid replacement to develop given that Keeffe and Aleer are the only depth KPDs we'll have next year. Matt Whitlock is the obvious choice (which would knock out Gerryn from my desired list), however, I'm not 100% sold on him and need to consider options a little more.

 

[GWS Goose]

Noting that my suggestion regarding Taylor Adams was firmly tongue-in-cheek around the #11 jersey curse, nevertheless, the problem for GWS remains its inability to recruit mid-career players. Whatever the reason - and I think cost of living is the biggest contributing issue - we mainly get cast-offs. Even the guys who have been great for us (Mummy, Shaw, Stevie J, Griffen to a lesser extent) were generally in that position.

Looking around the competition, you're looking at guys like Daniels, Seb Ross and Riley Bonner as "maybe" recruits purely if they want to extend their career. Otherwise, GWS need to be in the ears of players - like other clubs are in the ears of ours - years in advance to persuade them to come to us. But money can't be the major attraction, making it difficult to persuade them.

We've always had stacks of high draft picks. Keeping as many of them as been a priority as opposed to bringing in from outside.

 

[GWS Goose]

Would Matthew Kennedy be looked at? I like what he’s done with his career. He wants to be played in the midfield rather than up forward. Could do with his contested ball winning.

I would love him back