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And even then they would fail, I feel.
They have nothing to lean back on. No history of success. No big or marquee MCG games. No well documented culture. No big rivalry.
They’re just irrelevant and when they are competing for the same players that clubs like Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn and Geelong are they will almost always lose out.
I don’t think their Chairman coming out and having a whinge session at the B&F about how they can’t compete with other clubs because they don’t have the talent, can’t access the talent and the league is so unfair would help them in any way with trying to sell potential recruits either. That to me was a real bonehead move. Literally announcing that they’ve given up unless the AFL given them a leg up… which they then did.
It takes a real talent to turn Pick 3 into Pick 12.How is West Coast going to rebuild when they only have draft picks 12 ,26 and 73 coming up?
That is not much better than our picks.
And their current list is significantly older than ours.
Much prefer the strategy Richmond is going with
Talented but seems lazy and only goes when he chooses.Wondering if we have a sneaky look at Ash Johnston delisted by Collingwood as cover for an aging Gunston.
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How is West Coast going to rebuild when they only have draft picks 12 ,26 and 73 coming up?
That is not much better than our picks.
And their current list is significantly older than ours.
Much prefer the strategy Richmond is going with
You are probably on the money.The Richmond strategy is going to be 'let's try what the Suns did in 2010' just without Gary Ablett Jnr signed on. If they have even 1 or 2 busts in their current draft hand then they are in for some monumental long term pain.
You are probably on the money.
But at least Richmond supporters go into the new season with alot of expensive new toys and the optimism they bring.
West coast supporters will just have the occasional Harley cameo to provide any excitement
We don’t have list spots to look at any DFAs and if we did not him. One draft pick Cody Anderson re-rookie Gunston that’s all folks.Talented but seems lazy and only goes when he chooses.
Highly doubt we’d be looking at him.
To be fair what choice do they have? They didn’t make a decision then shop players they found themselves with players wanting to go and were incredibly lucky they wanted to go to clubs with great draft hands willing to overpay. They made the best of the situation with no other choice. Take 5/6 good kids push 2/3 picks live trades to next year and get a core group before Tassie is the strategy forced on them and far better than many other clubs including us post 2016 until Mitchell arrived.The Richmond strategy is going to be 'let's try what the Suns did in 2010' just without Gary Ablett Jnr signed on. If they have even 1 or 2 busts in their current draft hand then they are in for some monumental long term pain.
To be fair what choice do they have? They didn’t make a decision then shop players they found themselves with players wanting to go and were incredibly lucky they wanted to go to clubs with great draft hands willing to overpay. They made the best of the situation with no other choice. Take 5/6 good kids push 2/3 picks live trades to next year and get a core group before Tassie is the strategy forced on them and far better than many other clubs including us post 2016 until Mitchell arrived.
True but tge main difference to the suns, is the tigers have success now and a huge fan base so much more likely to be able to bring players in to complement these drafts. But they have to get at least 6 200 gamers from these 2 drafts or it will be a long down period.You're not wrong, and I am not saying it was an active choice - and what they did incredibly well was get stupidly good returns on investment for players. People just seem to think it is some amazing predicament - personally I think it is a roll of the dice they have to get right because they won't get a similar hand next year, have a bunch of players in their final years and their 'marquee' players in Taranto and Hopper are solid B+ players at the very best. If even a couple of these kids this year aren't quality 200-gamers then it'll be an ugly decade for them. The Suns had a far better draft hand in 2010, with one of the best players in the modern era in his prime and never came close to contending.
You don’t win an award for not losing players.My only issue with offering LDU this kind've money which you'd assume would have to be more than what we just gave Battle to net the Roos Band 1 compo is that we need to start being wary that oppo clubs will start to come for our young guns with godfather offers.
I'm not saying that players like LDU and Battle aren't great players but rather that we need to be smart managing our salary cap flexibility wisely. I'd hate for us to get to a point were we were to acquire LDU only to then lose a MacKenzie or Macdonald because we got blown out of the water with an offer we just couldn't get anywhere near.
All I'm saying is it's all good and well to chase after players but we also have to make sure there's a scope to retain our quality kids that will eventually want / earn a bigger slice of the pie.
Oh I wouldn't want to be a supporter of either club right now - it would be bleak. But West Coast still have the second youngest and most inexperienced list - I don't think they need to pile even more kids on that. If they can lure Warner next year then they will be in a better place - if they miss out though it will be a big setback. If I was a Tiggers supporter I wouldn't be harbouring any optimism next year - just bracing myself for the absolute thrashings and hoping to hell some of the kids come on quickly.
Mate all I was saying is that at some stage we need to be careful with our cap management. Yes we're in it to win flags and i'm all for that but all clubs at some stage have signed or extended a player for way more than they should've so it's got nothing to with being scared just smart.You don’t win an award for not losing players.
The ooga booga paranoia of someone coming after one of your youngsters shouldn’t make you double take improving your 22.
We are in it to win flags, players who don’t think they can be part of that and opt out for $$$ elsewhere will more than likely be no great loss.
If that's the case the I'm all for it. Worth noting that the last time we did this which netted us Weddle we were dealing with the Swans as well. Lets hope history repeats itself.If what I've been told is true, we're dealing with Swans.
33 & F1 for pick 19 and F3. There may be other picks involved.
If that happens there must really be someone we're targeting who's rated to go in the low 20's.
There would want to be other picks involved. Like a 2nd coming back.If what I've been told is true, we're dealing with Swans.
33 & F1 for pick 19 and F3. There may be other picks involved.
If that happens there must really be someone we're targeting who's rated to go in the low 20's.
If what I've been told is true, we're dealing with Swans.
33 & F1 for pick 19 and F3. There may be other picks involved.
If that happens there must really be someone we're targeting who's rated to go in the low 20's.
If that's the case the I'm all for it. Worth noting that the last time we did this which netted us Weddle we were dealing with the Swans as well. Lets hope history repeats itself.
Sydney have the weird mix of hitting on their rookies and ****ing up their national draft picks (academy excluded)Sydney notoriously suck at drafting in this range, so they absolutely should be looking to move that pick on.
You can forget about getting a fair deal mate. If u want to get 19 u r going to have give a lot or u won't get it. F1 33 FOR 19 AND F3 sounds about right given others that have moved up in the past.Won't be F3, will be F2.
If we hold 2 F2's won't need to hold a F3 to satisfy AFL rules.
So 33+F1 for 19+F2 sounds lot more fair and balanced
Obviously I would like the F3 as well and will give one of our F4's back
Either way, prefer we do this on draft night if the player we target is still available when pick 19 which will be pick 23 is called out.
If not, keep f1 and take whoever is available at 33(37).
Just having this plan in hand will likely force the hand of others who hold a pick they want to trade for futures to consider our offer.
GWS is likely to move their pick 16 to futures if they fail to bundle it with 15 to trade up. They hold 2 F2's( 22 & 33) & no F3.
The Richmond strategy is going to be 'let's try what the Suns did in 2010' just without Gary Ablett Jnr signed on. If they have even 1 or 2 busts in their current draft hand then they are in for some monumental long term pain.
I feel like they'd be looking at the GWS blueprint for development, heavy drafting, and success. They could trade out on draft night and roll top picks over into the following season(s), and still be taking multiple firsts each year, for a few years yet.
You can forget about getting a fair deal mate. If u want to get 19 u r going to have give a lot or u won't get it. F1 33 FOR 19 AND F3 sounds about right given others that have moved up in the past.
This is the key difference. You're not just trading for a pick that might get you the player you hope is available. Assuming you're trading for the pick when it's live then you are actually trading for the exact player you wanted.Weddle deal was also signficant "overs" but got us the player we wanted. If we nail the pick, it's always worth it.