Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[Blackhawk42]

Sydney have the weird mix of hitting on their rookies and ****ing up their national draft picks (academy excluded)

I did some research. They've certainly had 1st and 2nd round hits (Warner, Rowbottom, McCartin, Florent), however some 1st and 2nd round misses over the past decade have been a little funny.

James Rose
Jack Hiscox
Passed on a bid for Josh Dunkley
Matthew Ling
Will Gould
Dylan Stephens
Angus Sheldrick
Traded out the pick we used on Josh Weddle
Cooper Vickery
Jacob Konstanty

They are VERY fortunate to have that academy.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I did some research. They've certainly had 1st and 2nd round hits (Warner, Rowbottom, McCartin, Florent), however some 1st amd 2nd round misses over the past decade have been a little funny.

James Rose
Jack Hiscox
Passed on a bid for Josh Dunkley
Matthew Ling
Will Gould
Angus Sheldrick
Traded out the pick we used on Josh Weddle
Cooper Vickery
Jacob Konstanty

They are VERY fortunate to have that academy.

If they get better at drafting in the first and second round they might only lose the next grand final by 4-5 goals.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Gee, that's a fair bit to give up for 19+future 3rd! Pick 33+ something around 14-18. Hopefully 18 which will mean you know what?

 

[FB19]

You can forget about getting a fair deal mate. If u want to get 19 u r going to have give a lot or u won't get it. F1 33 FOR 19 AND F3 sounds about right given others that have moved up in the past.

Yep some people seem to think trading works purely off the DVI calculator. It doesn’t take into account the live trading premium or the strength of the particular draft. In context Carlton who were desperate and acting like a live trader gave us f1/2 for 14 alone so for 19 and 53 (approx f3) then f1 and 33 is on par. Also swans want f1/2 picks for academy next year they won’t be giving those up.

 

[Mr Lizard]

Hopefully 18 which will mean you know what?

Carlton winning the flag

 

[MazHawk]

Gee, that's a fair bit to give up for 19+future 3rd! Pick 33+ something around 14-18. Hopefully 18 which will mean you know what?

If you want something you pay for it.
From what I'm told the deal is there but it's on hold. I don't know the details of the final deal - it was originally 33 & F1 for 19 & F3 but it's on hold till draft night.

I'm assuming we've put it on hold until we're sure the player we want is available at that pick. I'm backing the club fully on this, after all they specifically targeted Weddle and he's turned into a huge plus so if the club is willing to pay for this player X then I'm all for it.
I've looked at all the draft lists from Cal to RookieMe and everything in between about who's there in the low 20's and I'm just getting a headache.

I'd love to know who we're targeting.

 

[kazzooka]

If what I've been told is true, we're dealing with Swans.
33 & F1 for pick 19 and F3. There may be other picks involved.
If that happens there must really be someone we're targeting who's rated to go in the low 20's.

We'd have to wait till pick 19 to do the trade and only if our target is still there.

Would Swans risk it again after Weddle? Clearly we knew something they didn't there. Perhaps they find out who we want and take them for themselves.

 

[HawthornHawk]

I did some research. They've certainly had 1st and 2nd round hits (Warner, Rowbottom, McCartin, Florent), however some 1st and 2nd round misses over the past decade have been a little funny.

James Rose
Jack Hiscox
Passed on a bid for Josh Dunkley
Matthew Ling
Will Gould
Angus Sheldrick
Traded out the pick we used on Josh Weddle
Cooper Vickery
Jacob Konstanty

They are VERY fortunate to have that academy.

Dylan Stephens

 

[hawkinoz]

We'd have to wait till pick 19 to do the trade and only if our target is still there.

Would Swans risk it again after Weddle? Clearly we knew something they didn't there. Perhaps they find out who we want and take them for themselves.

With Weddle trade we paid a F2+F3 to slide up from 27 to 18

With this trade we are proposing to pay a F1(& get F3) to trade up from pick 37(33) to 23(19)

9 pick slide up vs 14 pick slide up

If really our target is there, I don't mind it but this is said to be even draft. We have the likes of Sims, Davis etc being ranked from 25 all the way to 40.

The diff in quality of player at 19 vs 33 doesn't seem big. On that basis the cost of F1 seems excessive.

But if really someone we rate in Top 15 is still there at 23, I say go for it.

PS : compared to this trade the Weddle trade seems like a real steal even though it seemed like massive overs then, I was fine with trade then too.

 

[FB19]

With Weddle trade we paid a F2+F3 to slide up from 27 to 18

With this trade we are proposing to pay a F1(& get F3) to trade up from pick 37(33) to 23(19)

9 pick slide up vs 14 pick slide up

If really our target is there, I don't mind it but this is said to be even draft. We have the likes of Sims, Davis etc being ranked from 25 all the way to 40.

The diff in quality of player at 19 vs 33 doesn't seem big. On that basis the cost of F1 seems excessive.

But if really someone we rate in Top 15 is still there at 23, I say go for it.

PS : compared to this trade the Weddle trade seems like a real steal even though it seemed like massive overs then, I was fine with trade then too.

If I had to guess as to who might be there we would target that won’t get to 33, either a mid/fwd like Taj Hotton or Cooper Hynes or a tall fwd like Shanahan or one of the Whitlocks. They might like Matt Whitlock given his positional flexibility.

 

[hawkinoz]

If I had to guess as to who might be there we would target that won’t get to 33, either a mid/fwd like Taj Hotton or Cooper Hynes or a tall fwd like Shanahan or one of the Whitlocks. They might like Matt Whitlock given his positional flexibility.

Taj Hotton I can understand but the other 2 are rated anywhere from 20 till 35 and there are other players in similar mould.

So unless we know something about them( say elite endurance like Weddle) no one else knows, I doubt we will reach for them.

Also there is a good chance we will try to swap our 33 with Dons pick 28 in switchroo of F2's prior to kako bid.

Giving up a F1 to slide up from 28 to 19 seems well overs for those 2. For Taj Hotton, may still be worth it just not sure he is a need for us position wise and is coming off an ACL.

If we have 28 I hope we offer F2+F4 to slide up and not F1

 

[caseman2]

If we were to trade into the first round and looking at the composition of our list, I suggest it would be for a key forward - Shanahan, Faull or one of the Whitlock boys who should be in that mid to late first round range. Noting that talk has been we will take Cody Anderson, a mid, with our 2nd selection.

 

[I got the outside word]

Carlton winning the flag

Or winning the spoon and having 17 matched bids before finding a player not tied to a club.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Dylan Stephens

Massive oversight! Haha, thank you. I'll edit my post.

 

[fairdinks]

With Weddle trade we paid a F2+F3 to slide up from 27 to 18

With this trade we are proposing to pay a F1(& get F3) to trade up from pick 37(33) to 23(19)

9 pick slide up vs 14 pick slide up

If really our target is there, I don't mind it but this is said to be even draft. We have the likes of Sims, Davis etc being ranked from 25 all the way to 40.

The diff in quality of player at 19 vs 33 doesn't seem big. On that basis the cost of F1 seems excessive.

But if really someone we rate in Top 15 is still there at 23, I say go for it.

PS : compared to this trade the Weddle trade seems like a real steal even though it seemed like massive overs then, I was fine with trade then too.

Seems overs for me. And just because the Weddle trade was a huge success, it doesn't mean we will always kill it.

 

[Noel Gallagher]

I did some research. They've certainly had 1st and 2nd round hits (Warner, Rowbottom, McCartin, Florent), however some 1st and 2nd round misses over the past decade have been a little funny.

James Rose
Jack Hiscox
Passed on a bid for Josh Dunkley
Matthew Ling
Will Gould
Dylan Stephens
Angus Sheldrick
Traded out the pick we used on Josh Weddle
Cooper Vickery
Jacob Konstanty

They are VERY fortunate to have that academy.

Passing on Dunkley continues to haunt them to this very day. He was/is exactly the type of big bodied mid they needed to take over from Kennedy when he retired. They have never really filled the Kennedy void since, which makes me smile every time. Doing the pick swap with Weddle is hilarious. If they had both Dunkley and Weddle in their side today they would be unstoppable

 

[TheFourPillars]

Seems overs for me. And just because the Weddle trade was a huge success, it doesn't mean we will always kill it.

Yeah drafting is not an exact science you could have pick 2 and **** it up. Many a team have done that. However, it doesn't stop a team if there is a specific player that a team rates and they are available then will go for it.

 

[hfc70]

Let’s not forget the prospect of pick purchasing coming in next year - we should be in a strong position

 

[Turly]

We don’t have list spots to look at any DFAs and if we did not him. One draft pick Cody Anderson re-rookie Gunston that’s all folks.

Oh 100% agreed. I was just responding to TH who suggested him as a potential target.

Big no no.

 

[smish]

Hope we don't touch our F1. Would much prefer taking a tall around our range.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Hope we don't touch our F1. Would much prefer taking a tall around our range.

I doubt the Hawks will do any trade before draft night, so they know who they want. Happy to back the club in on there choice.