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I'd have thought f1 would get used before likely bids?trades in F1 so it isnāt used by Ben Campo
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I'd have thought f1 would get used before likely bids?trades in F1 so it isnāt used by Ben Campo
Cornes is a bellend, but one thing he's brought me around on that's on his agenda is all these long term contracts going around now.Didnāt think players could sign prior to a certain date. We do applaud our list management, but with a few wanting Young, Pitto to be traded shows they jumped the gun in extending a bit too early.
Forgot ins and outs. Start with a clean sheet and pick the team.Who's going out for him?
It's hard to accept, and it's an old cliche, but once a player enters the club they are selected by, where they were drafted becomes completely irrelevant.The bold is where the real issue seems to be with some of our supporter group
Then, 1-2 of his strengths seem to outweigh his current flaws
Never seen any fringe player, Carlton or otherwise, spoken about so highly
clean sheets......good times....Forgot ins and outs. Start with a clean sheet and pick the team.
Shaun Mannagh 27 disposals 6 goals mature age player good age bracket.
We lose Dow will offer good depth and also kick 40 goals for the year playing mid/forward. So could settle up forward as well.
Gettable Cal T said today Hollands to Carlton for a future 2nd should get it done. Will be an absolute steal if true!
William Perry?The only other fridge players that I can think of that have been spoken about this highly
Kicked 40-odd in the VFL as a HBF, Wing, HFF. He's small, probably not Werribee's out and out best player - Gribble for mine is better. However, Mannagh is much younger and much more explosive.Dow could kick 40 goals as a mid forward?
Now I get you, Mannagh, sounds like a type we could do with, how was the rest of his season?
It's hard to accept, and it's an old cliche, but once a player enters the club they are selected by, where they were drafted becomes completely irrelevant.
I do think that Dow has the ability to be a solid AFL football player. At times during our winning period this year I felt he contributed better to our mix than Kennedy and even Hewett at times.
His issue is really his lack of flexibility. With Ed retiring, Hewett is really our only defense first midfielder, and Kennedy does have the potential to float forward (at times).
The only other fridge players that I can think of that have been spoken about this highly in the past have been Charlie Constable (we've seen how that played out), Kym LeBois... who kicked a really good goal in a preseason game once and people on this board probably still think he could be the next Eddie Betts, and now Elijah Hollands...
Cornes is a bellend, but one thing he's brought me around on that's on his agenda is all these long term contracts going around now.
Pitto for 4 years was quite incredible. I'm not convinced I buy this "Pitto softens them up and TDK jumps over them" narrative that's around, to me TDK is much better as the no.1 ruckman. We've seen over a long period now that TDK is not a good forward so having 2 ruckman that can't play forward is limiting to an already slowish team. Further to Pitto is that his body already looks knackered, yet he's around for another 4 yrs.
I don't dislike Pittonet and think he's great for what he is, a solid workmanlike tap ruck, but 4 years? That's a lot when you have a budding young star just waiting to take over as no.1
If Carlton's mids were better field kicks- the whole speed debate wouldn't be a topic for discussion IMO.
As it is now - I don't trust any of our mids to make a dangerous kick work more than 2 /10 times - most of our turnovers are caused by poor kicking skills. Cerra is probably teh best field kick we have playing mid. On the outside, Acres is typical bang it long, Hollands is developing and Cottrell is ok at kick it long - and on the improve - none of them are going to be elite kicks though. Docherty is very iffy.
Our best kicks of the ball in general play are McGovern, Williams, Boyd and Weitering down back - ironically, both Harry and Charlie are very good field kicks and Martin is clever inside forward fifty -the defensive fifty kick should hit a good between the arcs kicker ( and we have none ) we get bogged down in transition because of this....instead we are reluing on outside overlap run to make progress- butthat allows teams to run back defensively...
Voss has elevated the team's attacking and defensive capability by adding Acres and Hollands to the outside because of their massive endurance running capabilities - along with Cottrell - but the ability to slice through defensive structures via bullet kicks is a missing component in Carlton's DNA.
Again - IMO far more important to the ability to increase speed of transfer from one end to the other - than running and far less taxing.
There is no one developing in 2's that is nay better than the above
binns?If Carlton's mids were better field kicks- the whole speed debate wouldn't be a topic for discussion IMO.
As it is now - I don't trust any of our mids to make a dangerous kick work more than 2 /10 times - most of our turnovers are caused by poor kicking skills. Cerra is probably teh best field kick we have playing mid. On the outside, Acres is typical bang it long, Hollands is developing and Cottrell is ok at kick it long - and on the improve - none of them are going to be elite kicks though. Docherty is very iffy.
Our best kicks of the ball in general play are McGovern, Williams, Boyd and Weitering down back - ironically, both Harry and Charlie are very good field kicks and Martin is clever inside forward fifty -the defensive fifty kick should hit a good between the arcs kicker ( and we have none ) we get bogged down in transition because of this....instead we are reluing on outside overlap run to make progress- butthat allows teams to run back defensively...
Voss has elevated the team's attacking and defensive capability by adding Acres and Hollands to the outside because of their massive endurance running capabilities - along with Cottrell - but the ability to slice through defensive structures via bullet kicks is a missing component in Carlton's DNA.
Again - IMO far more important to the ability to increase speed of transfer from one end to the other - than running and far less taxing.
There is no one developing in 2's that is nay better than the above
I thought pitto was excellent in the 1st quarter last week. Then Oscar got a hold of him. And Oscar absolutely monstered TDK.Cornes is a bellend, but one thing he's brought me around on that's on his agenda is all these long term contracts going around now.
Pitto for 4 years was quite incredible. I'm not convinced I buy this "Pitto softens them up and TDK jumps over them" narrative that's around, to me TDK is much better as the no.1 ruckman. We've seen over a long period now that TDK is not a good forward so having 2 ruckman that can't play forward is limiting to an already slowish team. Further to Pitto is that his body already looks knackered, yet he's around for another 4 yrs.
I don't dislike Pittonet and think he's great for what he is, a solid workmanlike tap ruck, but 4 years? That's a lot when you have a budding young star just waiting to take over as no.1
binns?
I thought pitto was excellent in the 1st quarter last week. Then Oscar got a hold of him. And Oscar absolutely monstered TDK.
Not sure that TDK one out in the ruck is a thing yet. He's progressing well, and hopefully next year he takes another step forward. Jack as a backup is sadly never going to cut it in finals as Oscar would just belt it forward 30 metres every time.
Ruck isn't a strength for us but it's not a glaring weakness in the home and away season. Maybe mirkov or O'Keeffe get closer next year?
If there are no surprises leaving, and we get Hollands, I think he goes.
I tried to say something like this after the Swans game in support of bringing in Boyd but got told apparently our kicking efficiency and contested marks percentage didn't support the argumentIf Carlton's mids were better field kicks- the whole speed debate wouldn't be a topic for discussion IMO.
As it is now - I don't trust any of our mids to make a dangerous kick work more than 2 /10 times - most of our turnovers are caused by poor kicking skills. Cerra is probably teh best field kick we have playing mid. On the outside, Acres is typical bang it long, Hollands is developing and Cottrell is ok at kick it long - and on the improve - none of them are going to be elite kicks though. Docherty is very iffy.
Our best kicks of the ball in general play are McGovern, Williams, Boyd and Weitering down back - ironically, both Harry and Charlie are very good field kicks and Martin is clever inside forward fifty -the defensive fifty kick should hit a good between the arcs kicker ( and we have none ) we get bogged down in transition because of this....instead we are reluing on outside overlap run to make progress- butthat allows teams to run back defensively...
Voss has elevated the team's attacking and defensive capability by adding Acres and Hollands to the outside because of their massive endurance running capabilities - along with Cottrell - but the ability to slice through defensive structures via bullet kicks is a missing component in Carlton's DNA.
Again - IMO far more important to the ability to increase speed of transfer from one end to the other - than running and far less taxing.
There is no one developing in 2's that is nay better than the above
Can't say I know anything more than any other punter, but, think the magic number is 6-8 players off the list. Which means 3-5 new players via trade/draft.You have a good handle on contracts
From your point of view, who do you think weāll let go this year?
What's his injury reoccurring likelihood?Philp should absolutely stay.
Does that include rookies? Irish?3-5 new players via trade/draft