List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[bigblueboy]

Haynes is not a key defender. People are in for a rude awakening

No one said he was a key defender. Still doesn’t make him a worse option than the alternatives.

 

[mochacinolatte]

Yep why all this trade Cerra talk it actually baffles me

Probably fantasizing trading Cerra that will get us Tracca

 

[branedotorg]

Josh Schache

19

Josh Schache

Age

27

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.5

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.8

4star

would be a good back up forward to take as a rookie.

I know there will be a lot of flack for this post.....

But....

Would be good to try and teach him the backline as well over summer...

Would get him very cheap $$$

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Forth time lucky!

 

[tommy43]

I think you’re missing the point here, B Camp is currently rated around pick 30, as things stand we won’t get to use this pick as it will be used to match.

By trading 31 and Owies for 22, we get ahead of the bid for Ben and bring in a highly rated kid.

Don't count on SOS or Dodoro (in his last draft) pulling a DH move. They won't use their first rounder as they aren't complete morons but if they have a 2nd rounder before pick 22, don't rule out one of them putting an early bid in.
That said, I'd take the pick upgrade and a mid to late 3rd rounder to ensure we have enough points.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Kozi Pickett reportedly considering a trade request. God what I wouldn't give for a Kozi combined with our lawyers

 

[YeoShuey]

Kozi Pickett reportedly considering a trade request. God what I wouldn't give for a Kozi combined with our lawyers

People may hate him but I’d rather Shai Bolton.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Kozi Pickett reportedly considering a trade request. God what I wouldn't give for a Kozi combined with our lawyers

To be able to snipe with impunity...or in other words, play like Byron.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

People may hate him but I’d rather Shai Bolton.

Would sell a kidney for either of them.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

People may hate him but I’d rather Shai Bolton.

Yes....and no.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Would sell a kidney for either of them.

What about a spleen?

 

[BigFrizz36]

Only if we moved on one of Kennedy or Hewett, I don’t see the need otherwise.

Not sure as to why we would get rid of Hewett or Kennedy to pick up a significantly worse (and older) player in Ross?

 

[JJBagger]

Kozi Pickett reportedly considering a trade request. God what I wouldn't give for a Kozi combined with our lawyers

I imagine he’d be going back to SA if he were to get traded

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Not sure as to why we would get rid of Hewett or Kennedy to pick up a significantly worse (and older) player in Ross?

Because Ross has been delisted so he would be free and on absolute minimum coin, Kennedy or Hewett are under contract so would hold some value in a trade and clear some cap space.

I'm not suggesting to do it btw... But its a perfectly reasonable idea. Offload Kennedy and Hewett for picks to help get Petracca and then bring in Ross as some extra depth... Wouldn't be the worst move I've seen suggested.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I imagine he’d be going back to SA if he were to get traded

Port long been rumoured as a destination for him if he were to ever leave Melbourne

 

[chipzac]

Why trade Cerra? Isn’t his upside larger than anything we would get in a trade for him?

Why? Like Harry, he's great, but he's still just a pawn we can sacrifice anytime we feel like it (hope that doesn't make it sound like we're fickle, or anything).

Really doesn't matter if he is contracted and is absolutely adamant he won't be traded ... I really wish these players would behave like pawns on a chessboard, instead of, like ... real people! Anyway, that's just a very small detail.

And, if he refuses to budge ... well, I'm sure there are ways we can motivate him to reconsider.

He might just need a little more explanation and 'encouragement' from some of our burly, zealous posters on this site to help him decide.

 

[YeoShuey]

Why? Like Harry, he's great, but he's still just a pawn we can sacrifice anytime we feel like it (hope that doesn't make it sound like we're fickle, or anything).

Really doesn't matter if he is contracted and is absolutely adamant he won't be traded ... I really wish these players would behave like pawns on a chessboard, instead of, like ... real people! Anyway, that's just a very small detail.

And, if he refuses to budge ... well, I'm sure there are ways we can motivate him to reconsider.

He might just need a little more explanation and 'encouragement' from some of our burly, zealous posters on this site to help him decide.

A+ satire. Love it.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Because Ross has been delisted so he would be free and on absolute minimum coin, Kennedy or Hewett are under contract so would hold some value in a trade and clear some cap space.

I'm not suggesting to do it btw... But its a perfectly reasonable idea. Offload Kennedy and Hewett for picks to help get Petracca and then bring in Ross as some extra depth... Wouldn't be the worst move I've seen suggested.

So purposely make our team worse to get a junk draft pick and save a few $. Not for me. Not to mention that Seb Ross is so far past his best that he would be playing reserves permanently till we hit our round 21 injury crisis.

 

[Blueyourmyboy!!]

Petracca - free (*)
Haynes - free
Houston - Future 1st
Aleer - 2nd
Garcia - Future 2nd
Draft - 1st round and 2 x Campos.

Sorted.

* Wins grievance action and is declared UFA

That would be a dream hall this year

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So purposely make our team worse to get a junk draft pick and save a few $. Not for me. Not to mention that Seb Ross is so far past his best that he would be playing reserves permanently till we hit our round 21 injury crisis.

Which midfield would you prefer?

Cripps
Walsh
Cerra
Kennedy
Hewett
Lij/Lord

or...

Cripps
Walsh
Petracca
Cerra
Ross
Lij/Lord

I think its a reasonable question. I'd certainly hope we'd have moved on from players of Ross' ability with the natural development of Lord, Elijah, Ollie, Wilson etc next year but I certainly wouldn't be calling for blood if we signed Ross as a free depth pick up if it helped secure us Petracca using the picks and cap space Kennedy and Hewett created.

 

[gbatman]

Not sure. Been impressive and improved his fitness greatly but I reckon he will need another 2 pre seasons to be really up to speed. Would not suprise if he has a few up and down periods

If he can play 14-15 games at AFL level next I will be very happy

From 2026 is where I see him as a genuine lock best 22 player. However, if he steps up quicker next year I will be very happy

It all comes down to fitness. But he has way way more than any of the other forwards in our team. On talent he's miles ahead of anyone we already have. I think he will be fit enough. He doesn't seem to be getting injured. Unless he has an injury setback I reckon he walks into our side next season. He's got something that I have only seen from Jack Martin. He's a genuine half forward who can also impact in a pocket.

What I mean is he can win a lot of ball at half forward and he doesn't have to cover a lot of ground to do it. It's the lack of half forwards like this that kill our ball movement. Geelong went mad poaching these types from other clubs leading up to their last flag.

I think he has something we don't have that we desperately need.

I would not be surprised if Lord is the same. He's already doing things in the middle that none of the other mids do and we desperately need.

I think we may have got a few right here.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Kozi Pickett reportedly considering a trade request. God what I wouldn't give for a Kozi combined with our lawyers

Where’s it reported? I haven’t spotted it

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Where’s it reported? I haven’t spotted it

Dees star Kozzie Pickett weighs up trade request, WA rival ‘at the front of the queue’

Another Dees star weighing up shock trade move... and rival club is ‘front of the queue’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[katmanblue]

Cerra is not going anywhere.

Not with those hamstrings

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[BigFrizz36]

Which midfield would you prefer?

Cripps
Walsh
Cerra
Kennedy
Hewett
Lij/Lord

or...

Cripps
Walsh
Petracca
Cerra
Ross
Lij/Lord

I think its a reasonable question. I'd certainly hope we'd have moved on from players of Ross' ability with the natural development of Lord, Elijah, Ollie, Wilson etc next year but I certainly wouldn't be calling for blood if we signed Ross as a free depth pick up if it helped secure us Petracca using the picks and cap space Kennedy and Hewett created.

You really think that getting rid of Kennedy and Hewett would make one iota of difference in terms of getting Petracca? We would be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for either. Kennedy is an unrestricted free agent having been delisted previously (afaik) and Hewett was reported to be on a 4 year deal at $400k per year. So you save maybe $650k and have to pay $200k - $250k for Ross. SO you are maybe $400K - $450K better off and maybe a couple of third rounders.

Peracca is allegedly on a minimum of $1.2 mill and a maximum of $1.7mill per year for the next five years. Even if he takes a fairly big haircut you'd be still a long, long way short. And risk rupturing the fabric of the team with two heart and soul tough players shown the door.

Clearly we would need some Melbourne Storm like accounting to fit Petracca under our salary cap as it currently stands. I appreciate your logic but taking on finished players like Seb Ross would be a no for me.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You really think that getting rid of Kennedy and Hewett would make one iota of difference in terms of getting Petracca? We would be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for either. Kennedy is an unrestricted free agent having been delisted previously (afaik) and Hewett was reported to be on a 4 year deal at $400k per year. So you save maybe $650k and have to pay $200k - $250k for Ross. SO you are maybe $400K - $450K better off and maybe a couple of third rounders.

Peracca is allegedly on a minimum of $1.2 mill and a maximum of $1.7mill per year for the next five years. Even if he takes a fairly big haircut you'd be still a long, long way short. And risk rupturing the fabric of the team with two heart and soul tough players shown the door.

Clearly we would need some Melbourne Storm like accounting to fit Petracca under our salary cap as it currently stands. I appreciate your logic but taking on finished players like Seb Ross would be a no for me.

Look firstly, I don't think anything about the Seb Ross business and have said from the get go I don't think theres any chance we're getting Trac at the end of the year, but as the situation at Melbourne continues to spiral the chances of him forcing his way out continue to increase and supposedly we're one of the clubs he wants to get to... So I think discussion about possible trades/moves is pretty fair.

Hewett and Kennedy would get 2nd rounders. They are miles above players who have been traded for 3rd rounders previously (Excluding names like Acres which were looked at as insane trading from Freo from the get go). Kennedy would also be on far more than 200k. He signed while he was having a career best year under new management at the club and would likely be on just as much as Hewett is, so you'd be looking at closer to 8-900k cap space between the two of them.

Do I think freeing up 8-900k of cap space and 2 mid-late 2nd round picks would help get a player trying to force himself out of a rival Victorian club? Absolutely I do. We'd need to throw in some other things but it would definitely help if the club wants to pursue him.

Would I do it if I'm Nick Austin? I dont know... I'd need a hell of a lot more information - Where do the TDK and Weiters contracts re-signings sit? Is he going to cause issues amongst the playing group? is he going to be the same player when he returns?

I'm sure our list team is weighing up all of this and if they decide to make those moves then I'm all for it. I think Petracca is a top 5 player in the league when healthy and would compliment our stars to a tee.