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neither Barrass or Battle are in that height range though, both similar heights to Kemp and McGovern, although at least Barrass can play as a true KPD, rather than third tall.
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Dudoro wanted Gresham instead
Petrucelli is contracted until next session.
People are wanting us to get speed in our midfield yet not much is available. I think Berry would be a handy run with player similar to Keys at Adelaide and Bedford at GWS. Would come cheap and we go to the draft and look to get speed with our first rounder.
What picks do we currently have as it stands?
TDK isn't quite there yet which is why I said 'a half'.
H is a Coleman winning AA key forward. Weiters should have been an AA key back. Both undoubtedly stars.
As for Walsh, AA and Garry Ayers Medalist without playing in the GF.
And this year, how quickly people forget. Missed the first 4 games after his back injury, at Round 16 was 7th on the Coaches' Votes, polling in 9 of 11 games. He's clearly been carrying something since then, but his last 6 weeks under an injury cloud hardly change his star status.
We have to cut those 3 (plus more), cannot have players on the list who can't play (as in stay on the field).
10, 30
and then 3 x 4th rounders
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So short sighted to blow up about Berry
He’s 22, it’s not for the now it’s to secure a genuine inside mid for later
He’s 22, it’s not for the now it’s to secure a genuine inside mid for later
Not a great hand. Hopefully Campo twins don't get bid before round our second rounder
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Lack of leg speed has definitely hurt this teams ability to win a flag but with Cody and the two nga players coming in next year seems like we have a bit to be excited about
Our issues are so fixable, much easier to find a couple pressure players with speed on either ends than it is to find a Brownlow medalist and 4 gun key positions
I’ve been a bit disheartened by the last month but I think we needed it to address long term prospects
Our issues are so fixable, much easier to find a couple pressure players with speed on either ends than it is to find a Brownlow medalist and 4 gun key positions
I’ve been a bit disheartened by the last month but I think we needed it to address long term prospects
Whilst we think we are in the window, l believe last year glossed over some glaring list weaknesses.
Yes another tall defender is important, but l would argue unless we change our mid field we are not in the mix, too many one paced midfielders that don't have the speed to defence & mid sized goal kicking forward.
By investing in a 29 Barass we are giving away at least our 1st pick & more, if he was 25 good argument but highly risky at that age and that does nothing to address other areas.
It seems evident they have identified Haynes as a short term option in this area.
One of the worse losses in our history because our list is unbalanced and slow and all our hear is more inside mids & a 32 yo defender. If this is true, Sayers, Austin et al are incompetent
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I don’t think he was ever in the top 15 mix with actual draft watchers
I remember last year Pommy in Oz (who has his own show and is also on Blue Abroad) pointed out that Ben plays a position that is rarely taken in first round so it’s unlikely we would need to use our first round pick on him. But Pommy didn’t say that he would fall to after our second round pick too - which may end up happening - so he probably has fallen a bit from 20s to 30s.
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neither of those two get to the club unless Voss wants them
Would we get Eagle's 23 for Carroll/Pitto + our 30?
10 and 23 before the Campo's would be nice.
Confront reality-we have to move past these players
Owies not good enough
Kemp- try as a fwd or out. doesn't defend
Motlop- 1 year and you tackle or out.
O Hollands- 1 year and improve strength pace or out.
Martin-out
Marchbank-out
Cunningham-out
Cerra- chronic injury, i would put on trade table
Binns- not an afl footballer
Moir- doubtful 1 year to show something. Miles off it.
Docherty- its only a lap of honour
Newman- 1 more year max
Young- adds nothing.
Durdin- not good enough.
14 players probably need to be replaced before considering Cripps, Mcgovern, Saad, Williams are at the end.
18 players needing to be replaced is not list management
Owies not good enough
Kemp- try as a fwd or out. doesn't defend
Motlop- 1 year and you tackle or out.
O Hollands- 1 year and improve strength pace or out.
Martin-out
Marchbank-out
Cunningham-out
Cerra- chronic injury, i would put on trade table
Binns- not an afl footballer
Moir- doubtful 1 year to show something. Miles off it.
Docherty- its only a lap of honour
Newman- 1 more year max
Young- adds nothing.
Durdin- not good enough.
14 players probably need to be replaced before considering Cripps, Mcgovern, Saad, Williams are at the end.
18 players needing to be replaced is not list management
Austin is list manager, it is not a government department. Why does no one hold him to account for anything?
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Carroll and Pitto? We’d look at it but would that leave you with enough points to match?
At pick 30 we would be taking a risk of losing it to gain BCampo.
A pick around 25 or less would be safer.
With the current F/S rules, we should be able to secure them both???
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Probably. Lucas you may get for nothing. But you may need to trade a late future pick into this draft depending on when a Ben bid comes, although you have plenty of late picks to work with.
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Because most realise that incessantly bleating about him on social media achieves very little.
There will be so many changes before the draft. If Austin is any good he should be getting us some better picks.
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He will be held to account but you don’t get players like Haynes and Berry unless the coach is wanting/asking for them so he should hold equal blame.
If they are the types Voss wants then that could be the bigger worry.
What do you want Austin to do specifically? We want to keep our first two draft picks. Most likely trade Owies and Carroll. Who else should we be targeting that is available that won't blow the salary cap?
Ryan for Carroll
Haynes for nothing
Berry for Owies
I would love to get Harry Edwards however we may need to give up a future second rounder to get it done.
Campo twins plus pick 10 and 30.
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It’s hard to know as I’ve got no idea how much salary cap room we have.
Haynes again it’s hard to know, does he want $200k or $500k I can’t have an opinion unless I know that. He isn’t a KPD though so I think we still need to chase one and if you find them then you only take Haynes on minimum dollars.
I’d be letting go of guys like Owies and Carrol and trying to replace them with players with quicker, more athletic traits.
I’d have our future second on the table for a trade and try and use our two draft picks before matching the Campo’s.
The problem is the players we are looking for are the sort of players teams don’t want to lose so they are either very expensive or players who are struggling.
For the right player/players I’d have all picks on the table even be willing to lose players next year. I don’t see that as being Barrass or haven’t heard a name yet, who’s available that I would be all in on though
