List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[freo1997]

Sell the farm, win flags.

 

[Danny82]

Taranto? 12 and 19?

I thought of this one, Taranto was a former pick 2 and 24 at the time. Maybe you can say similar to Pickett, but I think Taranto at the time had more value. What is the pick equivalent of this - maybe pick 8?

Would 12 and 19 be similar to 9 and 26? Maybe chuck in a future 3rd, but don’t think it’s as far off as needing to go 9 and future first for example.

 

[Cobbler]

You have a newborn in that time?

(ps whenever I hear some pundit in the media bemoaning "players have all the power"? I l'm thinking... Who do you think benefits when players switch clubs? -hint they're in that sentence)

No, but having kids back home was a large factor.

Before anyone says, did I have a 4 year contract! No. But did buy a house 18 months prior to leaving! So, I was somewhat prepared to stay!

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Rhino again reiterating in that West article that Kozzie had "expressed a desire" to head to WA. It does seem like he's been told an actual trade request has been made

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Rhino again reiterating in that West article that Kozzie had "expressed a desire" to head to WA. It does seem like he's been told an actual trade request has been made

If there was nothing to it we wouldn't have heard anything in the media. It'll be the usual posturing from Melbourne until trade week. Required player. Loves the club. Happy. Blah blah blah.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If there was nothing to it we wouldn't have heard anything in the media. It'll be the usual posturing from Melbourne until trade week. Required player. Loves the club. Happy. Blah blah blah.

Pickett seems too flaky and I still don't trust Daniels 100%. There's something to it definitively but there's a leap from that to get to where Bolton is at and I'm now extremely invested in Pickett being in purple so I need definites haha

 

[oldgoat]

My God Will Schofield is so far up his own ass it's not funny

hes an ornament to the game

 

[Moo]

The motto of my sex life!

I’ve just had to explain to my family why I just snorted.

Because one of my online friends made a joke about masturbation….didn’t play out as well when spoken aloud.

 

[wakojako]

Rhino again reiterating in that West article that Kozzie had "expressed a desire" to head to WA. It does seem like he's been told an actual trade request has been made

We now know that his manger reached out to Freo. Clearly it's more then an "expressed desire". Hopefully the club goes full force at Kozzie and lures him home otherwise stop wasting our time.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We now know that his manger reached out to Freo. Clearly it's more then an "expressed desire". Hopefully the club goes full force at Kozzie and lures him home otherwise stop wasting our time.

Again, I just dont trust RD enough. We know the club has told RD to say that Pickett asked them if he could maybe join. I'm just hedging my emotional stability here

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

Pickett seems to flaky and I still don't trust Daniels 100%. There's something to it definitively but there's a leap from that to get to where Bolton is at and I'm now extremely invested in Pickett being in purple so I need definites haha

Where's the lack of trust from with Daniel's? Very connected to both clubs, doesn't show bias to any one club and was the one who broke the Neale news a year or so ago

Apart from his feud this year with Morris, still on point


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[purplerunsdeep2]

Sam Edmund just on SEN now said the kozi trade isn't likely, that melb will support him through the home sickness

But it's def real, apparently had the catch up with Bolton in Melb and said come have a kick with freo.

So I can see the reports being that Freo were a little unprepared for this being true


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[arsesmart]

No, but having kids back home was a large factor.

Before anyone says, did I have a 4 year contract! No. But did buy a house 18 months prior to leaving! So, I was somewhat prepared to stay!

Were any companies back home trying to headhunt you with more lucrative offers?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Where's the lack of trust from with Daniel's? Very connected to both clubs, doesn't show bias to any one club and was the one who broke the Neale news a year or so ago

Apart from his feud this year with Morris, still on point


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I love the guy but his official reporting has moved a long way into WA club mouthpiece rather than unbiased reporter. It's not a bad thing because it's nice to have someone for it but anything Freo I'll have reservations on

 

[maccamk]

Again, I just dont trust RD enough. We know the club has told RD to say that Pickett asked them if he could maybe join. I'm just hedging my emotional stability here

It was the line for Bolton and the same response from both manager and club. Pretty sure it was the same for Jackson. There is a pattern for how th club and Wallsy operate emerging


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[Dump Truck]

Again, I just dont trust RD enough. We know the club has told RD to say that Pickett asked them if he could maybe join. I'm just hedging my emotional stability here

After all these years of being a Freo fan you still have emotional stability?

 

[oldgoat]

Top of list of Christian Petracca grievances is 'the clubs refusal to deal with the Clayton Oliver situation'. (From todays The Age article here; https://archive.md/X3sgl )

I don't understand exactly what the Oliver situation is. (I thought I read it was gambling related and that Simon Goodwin also has a gambling problem?) but it is obvious that there is a big problem festering in that team.

If the wholesome Petracca feels it is so rotten that he has to leave, then surely that is the trigger for other players, who have previously expressed a desire to go home, to choose out, too.

The time is now. I hope Kossi heads west within the next few weeks to look at our facilities and meet the boys.

My mate Karen spotted Kozzie Looking at a house in Coogee yesterday across the road from Sam Kerrs place...
or was it a horse? at Ballas place?
It was very late and very noisy...
And we were distracted by Swans and Pies Femmes dukin it out!

 

[arsesmart]

Again, I just dont trust RD enough. We know the club has told RD to say that Pickett asked them if he could maybe join. I'm just hedging my emotional stability here

Yes. There wisest option is definitely don't invest your emotions too heavily in this coming true for us.

 

[Vimal Anand]

If Dees are stubborn and held him to contract, it is not good for both clubs. There could be more players want out in coming years and the wall may eventually break down.Then Kosi request trade and we may not be in a position to trade him and he may go to other clubs.And dees what they get in compensation at that time won't be useful because of the compromised draft due to Tassie coming

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[oldgoat]

I love to procrastinate with trade speculations. Rioli and Bolton involved in a 3 way. I had a go at this earlier. GC will give up 6 BUT on the provision they get 9, which we hold. Still get ahead of a Lombard bid.

So here goes:

GC out 6, 13, 20 in Rioli, 9, 29 and bunch of later picks for points. Values Rioli ~ 6 but better than giving 6 direct + I’m not accounting for the later picks, which will hold value.

Freo out 9, 10, 27 in Bolton, 20 + 2025 later round upgrades in our favour. Values Bolton ~ 2 + I’m not accounting for the later picks, which will hold value. There will be a salary component in giving up 9 + 10, which is why we’ll part with 9 + 10.

Richmond out Rioli, Bolton, 20, 29 in 6, 10, 13

All sort of pick exchanges, swaps and upgrades. GC favour 2024. Our favour 2025.

This will leave us with ~17, 20(last pick of first round) + F1.

We will then need to get to work to use these 3 late firsts to get Pickett.

I know the obvious is 9 and F1 for Bolton and whatever then 10 and ~ 17 for Pickett but it never works out as easy as it looks.

One thing we definitely have is enough picks to be flexible with our deals.

Let the Cobblers do the Pontificating...
and the Pundits do the Procrastinating...
Ill do the ringing until the Bell man comes...
or Wallsy... you know what I mean?
I am still a little bit excitable.

 

[oldgoat]

I think that "it's an every year thing" is more a deflection and hope thing emanating from MFC. It came about at contract negotiating time mainly.

Anyway, if it is an every year thing, that suggests he's not settled at Melbourne and, he wants to be loyal, but the pull home is strong.

Just so...
Teetering on the edge for a good while..
It can Totter our way this year?

 

[Joao]

I think if Kossie puts his foot down it will happen. Thing is, sounds like that's exactly what he hasn't done in the past.

TBH, I'm already moving on as fun as it was.

 

[oldgoat]

And got a port Melbourne golf club membership


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And a horse?
Ill have 2 bob each way on Great Escape?

 

[s_wd6]

I think if Kossie puts his foot down it will happen. Thing is, sounds like that's exactly what he hasn't done in the past.

TBH, I'm already moving on as fun as it was.

Yeah it was a fun few days. Don't see it happening really. Especially now that Melbourne are in damage control.

Back to Shai Bolton I guess.

 

[dont bowl there]

I think if Kossie puts his foot down it will happen. Thing is, sounds like that's exactly what he hasn't done in the past.

TBH, I'm already moving on as fun as it was.

I still have hopes that he will given the club is an absolute basket case at the moment and he's just had a kid. But it does feel more unlikely than likely, 30-70 coming to Freo is my current gut feel where as Bolton is 95-5.