Just to change from the usual trade Darcy talk on here.
List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2
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Makes sense. Always had the assumption that they were all a lot better paid.Yes people mistakenly think the average salary is paid to the mid ranking player at each club.
If there’s 44 players on a list, the 22nd best player is not earning the average salary. It would be more accurate to quote median salaries but they never do that.
The 22nd highest paid player at freo is earning a lot less than $440k. The salaries are non-normally distributed. I would guess the average salary is paid to approx the 13th or 14th highest paid player on the list.
Off the top of my head the following are all earning less than $250k this year:
Draper
Williams
Corbett
Kuek
Simpson
Murphy
Wagner
Emmett
Banfield
Stanley
Reidy
Delean
Voss
Wagner
Sharp
Jones
Worner
Knobel
Mcdonald
Davies
That’s 20 players already. Pretty much half the list.
Then guys like Johnson, Sturt, Hughes and NOD probably in that next 250-350 bracket.
Players that generally get paid more than most people realise are former first round picks.
It probably surprises a lot of people here but Neil Erasmus, as a 2021 draft top 10 pick, for example is on a minimum of $400k this year, probably $450k, and next year too. Same for Heath chapman. Amiss too. Amiss probably over $500k given he’s on a long term deal and is a player in the rising star and in the most valuable position on the ground.
This article here from Peter Ryan of the age explains it well.
AFL 2023: How rule change will impact salaries of AFL draftees
Third-year players cashed in under the old system, but now most AFL draftees will have to wait a little longer for the most lucrative contracts. Learn how their salaries will be determined.www.theage.com.au
Others paid a premium are guys traded into your club. Aish would be a good example. JOM and Brodie too. All former top 10/minidraft picks that have been well paid since year 3 of their careers onwards.
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eating beyond meat when you could have grass fed steak?
A few years back I remember speaking to someone who worked at the same company Adam Saad was a 200k employee at, not sure where he finds the time to add that value on top of being a full time Carlton player
Visy?
Wasn’t actually a direct sponsor which was interesting
Doesn't this add another layer of awfulness to Carlton though? That they cook the books and are still dreadful.
Yes people mistakenly think the average salary is paid to the mid ranking player at each club.
If there’s 44 players on a list, the 22nd best player is not earning the average salary. It would be more accurate to quote median salaries but they never do that.
The 22nd highest paid player at freo is earning a lot less than $440k. The salaries are non-normally distributed. I would guess the average salary is paid to approx the 13th or 14th highest paid player on the list.
Off the top of my head the following are all earning less than $250k this year:
Draper
Williams
Corbett
Kuek
Simpson
Murphy
Wagner
Emmett
Banfield
Stanley
Reidy
Delean
Voss
Wagner
Sharp
Jones
Worner
Knobel
Mcdonald
Davies
That’s 20 players already. Pretty much half the list.
Then guys like Johnson, Sturt, Hughes and NOD probably in that next 250-350 bracket.
Players that generally get paid more than most people realise are former first round picks.
It probably surprises a lot of people here but Neil Erasmus, as a 2021 draft top 10 pick, for example is on a minimum of $400k this year, probably $450k, and next year too. Same for Heath chapman. Amiss too. Amiss probably over $500k given he’s on a long term deal and is a player in the rising star and in the most valuable position on the ground.
This article here from Peter Ryan of the age explains it well.
AFL 2023: How rule change will impact salaries of AFL draftees
Third-year players cashed in under the old system, but now most AFL draftees will have to wait a little longer for the most lucrative contracts. Learn how their salaries will be determined.
Others paid a premium are guys traded into your club. Aish would be a good example. JOM and Brodie too. All former top 10/minidraft picks that have been well paid since year 3 of their careers onwards.
That Wagner is a bit sneaky getting paid twice
Going home with the 3am stragglers after bombing out on the 11pm dazzlers?
I don't doubt it but I still think it's a deal that gets done in the last 24 hours.
Only exception is if Pickett is coming as well. I've seen too many trades ruled out at this time of year but happen in October anyway to think it's completely off the table.
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Nah, Bolton gets done in the first couple of days.
Both clubs have other things they want to focus on, and there'll be other deals held back for drama.
Get Bolton out of the way and then go to work on anyone else we have eyes for.
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I don't see Richmond have any incentive to get the deal done early. It's not like they need the picks for other players. Unless there is prior agreement on the deal they may as well hold out for as much as possible.
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Why?
Get it done, then see if they can further improve their draft hand by helping in other deals.
Still have baker and Rioli to sort as well.
Na didn’t say but he said will be pretty straight forward
Rioli will be the one that gets done early because Gold Coast will just give them what they want. That won't change until the AFL treats them like a proper AFL club.
Expect Baker to be done in the final hour for West Coast's second rounder or equivalent value tbh.
I'm not convinced Morris has anything of substance tbh. The trade might be simple in his mind though - probably expects us to hand over picks 10 and 11 and ask for nothing back. Even pick 10/11 and 14 won't happen unless we get something back.
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Morris has been pretty strong since the start on it being 9 and the Port pick (from his opinion, not a sauce) to be fair.
I'm with Drago thinking it gets done quickly and is pretty far progressed. From my understanding, Morris might have told another poster on here discussions are very far along...
Let's wait and see but I think I've seen this all been said before then once the last day of trade period comes we're still waiting.
Not saying what I've said above is fact btw - I wouldn't be surprised either way.
It would have to be AFL contrived for it to run through to the last 24 hours. We would want to do other business and need to know where the Bolton deal lands.
I would be very surprised if the clubs haven't already set the price.
Getting the deal done early will free up the slate for any further sneaky-blockbusters from behind the Wall too.
I don't know if we need a trade for this, but having watched the Brisvegas replay yesterday, Zorko's ability to dissect his way out of half-back was really striking. With Young's move mid-forward going gangbusters, finding that polished distrubutor off the half-back is something we should be seriously considering. I don't think we currently have any obvious candidates with a combo of top-shelf game-IQ and precision kicking that can neatly slot in there next year.
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