LongSerong
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- Mar 19, 2021
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What are you trying to achieve here matey? Take this convo to the drafts & free agency board
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in 4 yearsIf Bolton wants out you definitely don’t pay overs. 1 first rounder at the most. Otherwise let him walk once he out of contract
Not convinced, we are lamenting our entire spine of Treacy, Darcy and Pearce missing being the reason we haven’t won the last 2-3 weeks, not a single 1st rounder there. Yet Brodie and Ras are both 1st rounders who can’t get a game.Our genuine guns other than Treacy and perhaps Darcy, Ryan and Cox on their day are all first round draft picks.
We killed it in 2016 and got lucky with Treacy in a Covid year but otherwise good late picks have been adding mature agers that had a clear path to the best 22.
GC aint giving up 5I’ve seen pick 5 and 20 for Dan Rioli bandied about?
Am I going insane here. On what planet is he worth that? Certainly not earth anyway.
AFL would surely intervene if that were to happen
It's now or never for Bolton mateIf Bolton wants out you definitely don’t pay overs. 1 first rounder at the most. Otherwise let him walk once he out of contract
Not convinced, we are lamenting our entire spine of Treacy, Darcy and Pearce missing being the reason we haven’t won the last 2-3 weeks, not a single 1st rounder there. Yet Brodie and Ras are both 1st rounders who can’t get a game.
We are currently chasing Warner and Bolton, both genuine A graders neither were taken in the 1st round, picking kids and projecting where the end up us still an inaccurate science.
you can have our future first no problem.Future pick to us from you I'm saying, eg pick 10 plus a future first round from you.
Only rumours i see about Fyfe retiring are people on socials say "I think he could retire" If our 2nd best player of all time was retiring his send of tour would've been announced by nowBrodie you imagine is gone. I guess if the Fyfe retirement rumours are true there's a spot there, but can't see Brodie leading that pack. Johnson, Raz, and now maybe even NOD have more of a shot there, and they're not gonna get worse. Don't know if Richmond is the best destination.
Raz you'd think is a non-starter. Can't see us doing a trade for less than what Geelong got for Clark, and can't see a team offering that. Seems less likely to be desperate to leave anyways.
Have a funny feeling we'll tell them to get ****ed.Have a funny feeling Richmond ask the question about Darcy for the Bolton trade
Actually you put it that way, am all for it. The Schulz pick for Bolton plus a future first. That’s reasonable .It's now or never for Bolton mate
Do we delay the rebuild to haggle over some picks or just get it done? remember this pick 9 came from Schultz AND we already have a good young talent in Coops to show for it.
The longer we push the rebuild back, the more players get unsettled
Why do I feel, this stinking feeling, that Sturt will be used in a trade for Bolton?
Wash your mouth out with soapWhy do I feel, this stinking feeling, that Sturt will be used in a trade for Bolton?
He hasn’t signed.It might help if you could you make this a question with multiple choice options as answers and we can all have a go at it.
We have stuck by him with his injurys..He hasn’t signed.
He’s Victorian.
Coaches take ages to select him.
He hasn’t played enough games for the club to recognise his ability and potential.
Bolton is a medium forward. Direct replacement more or less if the club sees it that way
He hasn’t signed.
He’s Victorian.
Coaches take ages to select him.
He hasn’t played enough games for the club to recognise his ability and potential.
Bolton is a medium forward. Direct replacement more or less if the club sees it that way
Your initial post specifically said first round picks. So not sure what your point is above, not all our “guns” are first round picks.Every single of those except Treacy is at least a second rounder.
Outside of Treacy our only above average players selected after the second round since covid are NGA boys yet some on here are acting like Walls drafts better players at pick 60 than pick 8.
I’ve seen pick 5 and 20 for Dan Rioli bandied about?
Am I going insane here. On what planet is he worth that? Certainly not earth anyway.
AFL would surely intervene if that were to happen
They've ramped it up again. It's now:Said it earlier, there ideas on Rioli are legit the craziest I have EVER seen. I had to question if I was thinking about the wrong guy
Lions gave up pick 12 for Charlie Cameron, who wanted to move for family reasons.
He was also contracted.
Where you sell the farm for is for a player like Jeremy Cameron, but two thirds
of that deal was the picks that they received for Tim Kelly from the eagles.
So Geelong lost their 4th best mid to get the best forward in the AFL.
They've ramped it up again. It's now:
5, 12, 20 for Rioli
Going to be some devastated Tigers fans come October. Should go over to their board and encourage them.
Freo got r1 &2 for shulz,,,lol that’s right . Has he ever finished top 5 in bf . Shai never been out of it , also AA and dual premiership star . You guys will likely miss finals if you think a draft pic will help build that bridge you’re kidding , shai Bolton would make a significant diff . Bolton can play midfield and forward line shulz and Cameron can’t will kick over 30 this year and hasn’t had that great a yearLions gave up pick 12 for Charlie Cameron, who wanted to move for family reasons.
He was also contracted.
Where you sell the farm for is for a player like Jeremy Cameron, but two thirds
of that deal was the picks that they received for Tim Kelly from the eagles.
So Geelong lost their 4th best mid to get the best forward in the AFL.
OOC he's worth pick 9-12 on its own. The 4 years means we basically have to pay as if we're getting the best possible version of him (2022 or better).I see this trade being closer to Kelly trade than either Cameron.
The issue is he is not a top 20 player in the comp. I am not sure he is in the top 40 best players either. I see him more as somewhere between 60 and 80th best player in the comp.
He has made one all Australian, has made the all Australian squad a couple times, and is good for 30 goals a year. He is currently 25th of the goal kick ladder, having played pretty much all games.
I still think he plays his best football up the ground (50% forward pocket, 25% midfield, 25% wing or high half forward) so does not really solve our forward pocket issue that well.
Then you add he averages 4 clangers a game, kicks as many points as goals, is contracted for 4 years, and this is so high risk. Just because he has won a few flags, does not make him a great players. including than one bag of 3 goals in finals (against St Kilda in an semi final) he only has kicked 4 goals 4 in 7 games leading to his two grand finals. Hardly the difference maker.
He is not the player you give up two first round picks for. If you believe he is, can you provide me some stats to show he is worth the cost both in salary cap and draft picks?
33 goals is just not enough.
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The VERY big difference there was that was GC, who literally could not attract anyone but mostly the fact that Lachie was an absolute legend, went on trade radio and said that the GC had told him they'll get it done no matter what.They would have said the same about us, when we said we would get pick 2 for Weller.
The issue GC and us will have is, if Richmond start at such an outlandish starting point, if you meet them in the middle you are still paying way way overs.