List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Heave Ho Bro]

I disagree. I am glad the AFL are at least trying to take steps to prevent another blue and yellow situation. They want at least a semblance of parity and having a team destroy themselves for a decade through highly irresponsible trading goes against that.

If we had a complete ****wit in charge of our list management I would hope that someone could step in and stop them before it is too late.

But when it gets bad enough the AFL just bail teams out with priority picks anyway.

 

[greatgatsby]

Surely Warner goes on the back burner now (12 months is an eternity in footy anyway) and we go all in on Bolton and Pickett, while keeping alive the possibility of Baker being part of the mix.

 

[arsesmart]

I disagree. I am glad the AFL are at least trying to take steps to prevent another blue and yellow situation. They want at least a semblance of parity and having a team destroy themselves for a decade through highly irresponsible trading goes against that.

If we had a complete ****wit in charge of our list management I would hope that someone could step in and stop them before it is too late.

Either way I'm easy. Rules like that one can just mean footy list managers/departments have to get more creative. Usually when people talk up "freeing up player movement..." they leave out the "... to powerful Vic clubs" bit.

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

"But - exemptions are allowed if a recruiting target is of a certain age and experience, as determined by the AFL.

This would mean that someone like Kozzy, only 23 years old, may be seen as the equivalent of using a first round pick.

It would also mean trading in Luke Jackson two years ago would potentially count as using a 1st.

The 2-in-4 rule was essentially brought in to protect clubs from themselves - sending out high picks for older talent, leaving themselves in a future hole. Trading for high end young talent isn’t that.

This is all to say Fremantle might not run out of first round picks to trade, particularly with extended future pick trading coming in next year."

From memory a team got off on this technicality a few years ago. Think it was Geelong?

 

[Jezzitizle]

I think you are right, would be nothing better than getting in Pickett and Bolton, but, more likely we will end up with just Bolton or as planned Bolton and Baker. Surely, Melbourne is going to go all out to stop the bleeding from their team (unlike Richmond who appear to be on the rebuild) and will simply say no to Pickett, they just can’t afford to lose him.

Possibly they will just say no, but they will weigh up how Kozzy will respond to that, some players would get on with it, others drop their bundle and lose form.

They may also decide not having disgruntled players on the list is important to arrest the constant leak’s destabilising the club.

Also may depend on how they see the draft, and where they see themselves over the next 3-5 years.

I can’t recall the Dees holding players to contracts, have there been any over the last few years?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

the odds of pick 3 being better than Pickett is about 1%. what are you on about.

That is objectively false

 

[DQ 4EVER]

I hope we still land Baker. He is a tenacious little fricker, and we need some mongrel.

Speak for yourself
Sorry, Friday arvo joke time

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[Alfonz]

From memory a team got off on this technicality a few years ago. Think it was Geelong?

I don't know about Geelong, but WC had permission to trade pick 2 for Jackson even though they didn't satisfy the 2-in-previous-4 years rule.

 

[Paracleet]

If you had transcribed this, then removed any references to Serong himself, and said it came from an uber Freo fan calling in it would be perfectly believable.

 

[SoS12]

That is objectively false

So very false. If there are 100 kids drafted (there aren't) only 1 of those needs to meet Pickett's ability at that rate. Ridiculous comment.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

So very false. If there are 100 kids drafted (there aren't) only 1 of those needs to meet Pickett's ability at that rate. Ridiculous comment.

We kinda just roll eyes at Dan, I shouldn't have bitten.

 

[SandiHill]

I reckon give Pickett the #33 if he comes over.

I was thinking #10 after Walters retires in 2025. He has that Troy Cook hardness about him

 

[DQ 4EVER]

With Houston inexplicably deciding to stay in the sh1thole that is adelaide, surely this rules the powder puffs out of a Kozzie trade as they have no first rounder this year

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[Dirty_banchez]

the odds of pick 3 being better than Pickett is about 1%. what are you on about.

What are the odds of getting sick on a Saturday? A thousand to one.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

We kinda just roll eyes at Dan, I shouldn't have bitten.

He is funny though. Meanwhile my friend who has contact with Dockers board members and gets told plenty of inside information which I share a bit of only online has said Freo was contacted by Boltons mamager in July not the other way round andhe beleves a deal has already been arranged and Baker comes it would be a seperate deal.

He's also said the club wants another pressure forward which is why they've made a play for Joe Richards but if he choses Port they've also inquired about Malcolm Rosas Jnr from GC who's apparently elite at pressure stats and was averaging 2 goals and 10 possessions a game before he suffered a very bad hamstring injury last year. When he came back he played a few games but his form dropped off.. I think he's a potential bargain.

 

[Ge3ks]

We kinda just roll eyes at Dan, I shouldn't have bitten.

You shoulda just rolled out your Mad Max gif.

 

[Purple Suit]

Ok this needs to hurry up and happen now.

I'm not sure why the AFL decided to slot trade week in between the season and the finals. Crazy scheduling this year.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You shoulda just rolled out your Mad Max gif.

Haha, "just remember Jerry Geeks, it's not a lie bait if you believe it"

 

[Ge3ks]

Haha, "just remember Jerry Geeks, it's not a lie bait if you believe it"

 

[CapitalA]

I hope we still land Baker. He is a tenacious little fricker, and we need some mongrel.

Kozzy has plenty of that. Baker can get in the bin.

 

[Superkoops]

We kinda just roll eyes at Dan, I shouldn't have bitten.

Honestly good luck to the coasters if they go that route - trading or even splitting 3. The short answer is they won’t. They did that once before and understand significant consequences of doing so.

I understand the coasters are chasing Baker and there are other mid range (in terms of trade cost) players they will hit up as part of trades (names like Denver GB and Devan Robertson) and Free agency pick-up with no loss of draft picks in Jack Graham.

One thing they won’t be doing is trading out pick 3.

They will get pick 12-14 or whatever the Hawks end up with, which is lower than the 9 or 10 we end up with. The other non-negotiable will be trading F1.

I’d ignore the antagonist.

 

[MadMundy]

Baker can come in the situation that Bolton and Pickett are already traded in, if we have extra capital for funsies then sure, bring in Baker.

 

[Taylor]

Petracca and Pickett for Reid?

 

[Lach72]

Petracca and Pickett for Reid?

For the lols

 

[MadMundy]

Oh no, are the Melbourne supporters on here starting to become as delusional as the Richmond supporters?