List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Docker82]

"But - exemptions are allowed if a recruiting target is of a certain age and experience, as determined by the AFL.

This would mean that someone like Kozzy, only 23 years old, may be seen as the equivalent of using a first round pick.

It would also mean trading in Luke Jackson two years ago would potentially count as using a 1st.

The 2-in-4 rule was essentially brought in to protect clubs from themselves - sending out high picks for older talent, leaving themselves in a future hole. Trading for high end young talent isn’t that.

This is all to say Fremantle might not run out of first round picks to trade, particularly with extended future pick trading coming in next year."

Got a feeling Jackson would count but Pickett wouldn't tbh. They were drafted in the same draft but Jackson was traded two years ago

Either way it's quite possible we're fine.

Then hopefully one of the NGA boys goes pick 17 or 18 next year. Technically a first rounder but for the price of some later picks.

 

[bigfoopy]

Take it to the bank unk

 

[MadMundy]

It just seems like insanity. How can we possibly get all three...

David Walls be like:

 

[Ge3ks]

I hope we still land Baker. He is a tenacious little fricker, and we need some mongrel.

 

[Purple Suit]

It just seems like insanity. How can we possibly get all three...

We have the Capital, 4 x 1st rounders and pick 27. If none had contracts the 3 first rounders would get it done.

Salary cap room is the killer but there doesn't appear to be a salary cap looking at Carlton / Geelong and the fact that no one has been even fined for a mistake since the Essendon saga.

 

[MadMundy]

Who are our bottom 3 in the Best 23? Will go to show who exactly each will replace.

Bolton replaces Banfield
Pickett replaces Walters

Who does Baker replace? Wagner?

 

[freo_leo29]

Got a feeling Jackson would count but Pickett wouldn't tbh. They were drafted in the same draft but Jackson was traded two years ago

Either way it's quite possible we're fine.

Then hopefully one of the NGA boys goes pick 17 or 18 next year. Technically a first rounder but for the price of some later picks.

Hopefully pick 23 but the first round has been extended by other clubs

(Gonna need all the help we can get, will be low on points and 4ths no longer count)

 

[freo_leo29]

Who are our bottom 3 in the Best 23? Will go to show who exactly each will replace.

Bolton replaces Banfield
Pickett replaces Walters

Who does Baker replace? Wagner?

Our problem is the bottom 3 would change week on week this year

One week Banfield was it and the next he was a gun, we had probably 12 players rotating through this, need to limit that down to about 6 doing it

With the other 16 being consistent

 

[Purple Suit]

Got a feeling Jackson would count but Pickett wouldn't tbh. They were drafted in the same draft but Jackson was traded two years ago

Either way it's quite possible we're fine.

Then hopefully one of the NGA boys goes pick 17 or 18 next year. Technically a first rounder but for the price of some later picks.

They really need to change the rule up a bit. Maybe if you have a young player get a Rising star nomination, they count as the equivalent of a 1st round pick. It shouldn't matter what their pick was, as long as you keep getting enough talent through the door to not turn into WC.

 

[dont bowl there]

They really need to change the rule up a bit. Maybe if you have a young player get a Rising star nomination, they count as the equivalent of a 1st round pick. It shouldn't matter what their pick was, as long as you keep getting enough talent through the door to not turn into WC.

The AFL should just leave it up to the clubs, there shouldn't be any restrictions on how many picks you need to use etc.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

It's possible we manage to swindle our way into all three, I don't mind Baker but if it's at the expense of Pickett and Bolton then he can go to West Coast instead.

100%

Order of priority should be

1. Bolton
2. Pickett
3. Daylight
4. More daylight
5. Baker

 

[DragoDelph]

So, not including the out of contract guys, who could just be cut and wouldn't carry any value anyway. (NOD excluded. He stays)

Potential Collateral
1x of Davies & Murphy: Worth a R3?
1x of Knobel & Reidy: Worth R3-R4
Brodie: Worth R3-R4
Erasmus (Only if Warner an option): Worth R2
1x of Worner & Aish: Worth R4
Switta: Worth Late R1-R2

Voss signing for 2x extra years is good for us as well. If someone wants him now, they have to pay.

 

[freoextra]

I feel like we are all setting ourselves up for big time disappointment if Pickett isn't in purple next year. Get it done!

I think you are right, would be nothing better than getting in Pickett and Bolton, but, more likely we will end up with just Bolton or as planned Bolton and Baker. Surely, Melbourne is going to go all out to stop the bleeding from their team (unlike Richmond who appear to be on the rebuild) and will simply say no to Pickett, they just can’t afford to lose him.

 

[DragoDelph]

100%

Order of priority should be

1. Bolton
2. Pickett
3. Daylight
4. More daylight
5. Baker

1. Bolton
2. Pickett
3. Space for Warner
3. Daylight
4. More daylight
5. Baker

 

[danster168]

There's no way WC give up pick 3 for Pickett.

the odds of pick 3 being better than Pickett is about 1%. what are you on about.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

the odds of pick 3 being better than Pickett is about 1%. what are you on about.

 

[pK75]

The AFL should just leave it up to the clubs, there shouldn't be any restrictions on how many picks you need to use etc.

With the new future trading up to 3 years ahead, surely they scrap the 2 in 4 rule, how can anyone predict what will happen 3 years in the future?

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

With the new future trading up to 3 years ahead, surely they scrap the 4 in 4 rule, how can anyone predict what will happen 3 years in the future?

Also means we can trade a f1 for one next year if we need extras

 

[Purple Jesus]

Ok this needs to hurry up and happen now.

 

[wakojako]

So, not including the out of contract guys, who could just be cut and wouldn't carry any value anyway. (NOD excluded. He stays)

Potential Collateral
1x of Davies & Murphy: Worth a R3?
1x of Knobel & Reidy: Worth R3-R4
Brodie: Worth R3-R4
Erasmus (Only if Warner an option): Worth R2
1x of Worner & Aish: Worth R4
Switta: Worth Late R1-R2

Voss signing for 2x extra years is good for us as well. If someone wants him now, they have to pay.

I would Litetally put money on Switta leaving if we get both. Not sure we need to bleed any other players.

 

[gaskin]

The AFL should just leave it up to the clubs, there shouldn't be any restrictions on how many picks you need to use etc.

I disagree. I am glad the AFL are at least trying to take steps to prevent another blue and yellow situation. They want at least a semblance of parity and having a team destroy themselves for a decade through highly irresponsible trading goes against that.

If we had a complete ****wit in charge of our list management I would hope that someone could step in and stop them before it is too late.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I disagree. I am glad the AFL are at least trying to take steps to prevent another blue and yellow situation. They want at least a semblance of parity and having a team destroy themselves for a decade through highly irresponsible trading goes against that.

If we had a complete ****wit in charge of our list management I would hope that someone could step in and stop them before it is too late.

But when it gets bad enough the AFL just bail teams out with priority picks anyway.

 

[greatgatsby]

Surely Warner goes on the back burner now (12 months is an eternity in footy anyway) and we go all in on Bolton and Pickett, while keeping alive the possibility of Baker being part of the mix.

 

[arsesmart]

I disagree. I am glad the AFL are at least trying to take steps to prevent another blue and yellow situation. They want at least a semblance of parity and having a team destroy themselves for a decade through highly irresponsible trading goes against that.

If we had a complete ****wit in charge of our list management I would hope that someone could step in and stop them before it is too late.

Either way I'm easy. Rules like that one can just mean footy list managers/departments have to get more creative. Usually when people talk up "freeing up player movement..." they leave out the "... to powerful Vic clubs" bit.

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

"But - exemptions are allowed if a recruiting target is of a certain age and experience, as determined by the AFL.

This would mean that someone like Kozzy, only 23 years old, may be seen as the equivalent of using a first round pick.

It would also mean trading in Luke Jackson two years ago would potentially count as using a 1st.

The 2-in-4 rule was essentially brought in to protect clubs from themselves - sending out high picks for older talent, leaving themselves in a future hole. Trading for high end young talent isn’t that.

This is all to say Fremantle might not run out of first round picks to trade, particularly with extended future pick trading coming in next year."

From memory a team got off on this technicality a few years ago. Think it was Geelong?