List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[DragoDelph]

Curtis Taylor from Norths has been delisted. Did I only see his good games?

Might be getting him mixed up with Paul Curtis? (The good small
Forward)

 

[Taylor]

Might be getting him mixed up with Paul Curtis? (The good small
Forward)

Paul Curtis, thirty goals this year.
Curtis Taylor, 33 goals in six seasons.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Yeah, dumb.

Oh no! Getting Baker means someone who isn’t as good is ‘forced’ out!!

It’s like people don’t even want to improve our best 22.

I’m also not saying NOD isn’t as good, just the general vibe of getting Baler pushes someone out.

Well no der!

I think people are saying you need to be careful bringing in players who are 16-23 on your list, especially when you have a young list and a number of people could improve and push him out of the 22. (Especially on a long contract)

So for baker, it depends if you rate him 11-16 player on your list, or 17 -23.

I have him in the 11-16 bracket, so I would like to bring him in.

In reality, all players like Baker and Bolton come down to cost (salary and draft capital ) vs output.

Will they improve 22, but are they worth the salary and picks you are giving up?
And the answer to that question, will differ greatly depending on where your list is. I can't see West Coast giving up any picks, while we should be looking to improve our 22 if the price is reasonable.

 

[Ge3ks]

Paul Curtis, thirty goals this year.
Curtis Taylor, 33 goals in six seasons.

But aren't things that are rare considered to be more valuable?

 

[DQ 4EVER]

I have a feeling we are going to see Banfield on the wing unfortunately...

at Peel?

 

[Taylor]

But aren't things that are rare considered to be more valuable?

The other side of that coin is that there are a lot of guys who don't kick a lot of goals at AFL level.

 

[apuchar]

Might be getting him mixed up with Paul Curtis? (The good small
Forward)

I am. Paul Curtis is terrific from the little I have seen.

 

[thistimeforsure]

“Nothing but a complete disaster”: Cornes takes aim at Freo list calls after B&F results

“It is unbelievable.”

www.sen.com.au

Just Corned having another Rant Sighhhh

Unfortunately he’s bang on


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[thistimeforsure]

I am. Paul Curtis is terrific from the little I have seen.

If I could hand pick a couple of players to blow our draft hand on I’d go him and Connor McDonald from the Hawks


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[wild side]

Darcy got to get fit, and Jackson got to learn to take a contested mark.
Its not that hard when you have a size advantage

 

[Gekko71]

It’s going to be very difficult putting 28 players into 23 Spots.

...not if you stop playing them when they're sore or injured.

 

[Cobbler]

I think people are saying you need to be careful bringing in players who are 16-23 on your list, especially when you have a young list and a number of people could improve and push him out of the 22. (Especially on a long contract)

So for baker, it depends if you rate him 11-16 player on your list, or 17 -23.

I have him in the 11-16 bracket, so I would like to bring him in.

In reality, all players like Baker and Bolton come down to cost (salary and draft capital ) vs output.

Will they improve 22, but are they worth the salary and picks you are giving up?
And the answer to that question, will differ greatly depending on where your list is. I can't see West Coast giving up any picks, while we should be looking to improve our 22 if the price is reasonable.

We’ll also likely lose Fyfe, Walters and JOM over the next 2 seasons.
A couple more shortly after that.

Baker is the perfect age to oversee the next 5 years to provide support and guidance to our already emerging younger leaders.

If the other youngsters are good enough, they should be forcing their way in anyway.

You need a best 25-30 players these days. Baker comfortably in best 15.

 

[Docker82]

Not saying pisk up Curtis Taylor

5

Curtis Taylor

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

but sometimes these bottom clubs do cut players that would be much more useful to a middle of the road or even good side.

It's always about giving good youth a go in that situation. Good depth players that are no more than that don't generally last.

 

[MadMundy]

I'm happy to move on Brodie this season, he's not breaking back into the team.

 

[Taylor]

I'm happy to move on Brodie this season, he's not breaking back into the team.

Dogs came and had a look at him last season and have been trying to add midfielders, I'm not trying to suggest that they will pay anything of value for him but losing two mature bodies this offseason in Smith and Mccrae - Libba on a one year deal and 33 early next year - they will have holes to fill with either draftees or the likes of Will Brodie to wear the hits.

 

[nurries]

Unfortunately he’s bang on


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Except the 2m bit is more 1.5m

 

[King Huskii]

Dogs came and had a look at him last season and have been trying to add midfielders, I'm not trying to suggest that they will pay anything of value for him but losing two mature bodies this offseason in Smith and Mccrae - Libba on a one year deal and 33 early next year - they will have holes to fill with either draftees or the likes of Will Brodie to wear the hits.

Hope so

I would think he is on 450k a season. Although not big money, then if not played why not move him on, on proviso that we don't pay his salary and freethe cash up for Warner or Pickett next season. Not saying we will land them but it gives us more cap space

 

[eastfreo75]

...not if you stop playing them when they're sore or injured.

All NBA teams have load management, Ric Charlesworth won a women's hockey gold medal with that idea, and Geelong seems to be doing it a small level.

100% agree don't play injured players.

On 6 days breaks and long interstate trips you should looking to make load management decision.

Also, the vets and rookies would be benefit well timed breaks.

 

[eastfreo75]

I hope Aish has a great preseason. He's still decent, flexible and excellent depth. He can still push for the 23.

It will harded if we get both B1 and B2, and together any of the 1–4-year players taking the next step.

 

[benfica]

Only 10 days till trade radio!

Haven't tuned in since 2021 and it's the best decision i ever made

 

[Nodgey]

I hope Aish has a great preseason. He's still decent, flexible and excellent depth. He can still push for the 23.

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

 

[Bender571]

There's a video on YouTube showing what the ladder looks like if the close games were reversed. He does 6 points and 10 points. Long story short, we make finals.

That is my expectations of what Bolton, Baker and natural list improvement will bring.

Finals experience definitely has a value.

Just to rub salt into the wound we would also have pick 4 and pick 7 from Collingwood and Port.

 

[eastfreo75]

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

James Aish and Jaeger O'Meara AFL Stats Comparison

James Aish and Jaeger O'Meara AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Player Statistics Comparison​ James Aish​ Name​ Jaeger O'Meara​ Fremantle Dockers​ Team​ Fremantle Dockers​ Defender, Midfield​ Position​ Midfield​ 183​ Career Games​ 186​ Norwood​ Origin​ Perth Demons​ October 8, 1995​ Date of Birth​ February 23, 1994​ 28yr 11mth​ Age​ 30yr 6mth​ 183cm​ Height​ 184cm​ 83kg​ Weight​ 84kg​ 2013 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2011 Mini Draft​ Round 1, Pick #7​ Last Draft Position​ Round 1, Pick #1​ Brisbane Lions​ Last Drafted By​ Gold Coast Suns​ 2024​ Stats for Season​ 2024​ 20​ Games​ 22​ 9.9​ Kicks​ 8.3​ 7.0​ Handballs​ 7.0​ 16.9​ Disposals​ 15.3​ 5.2​ Marks​ 3.6​ 0​ Goals​ 0.4​ 0.2​ Behinds​ 0.4​ 1.5​ Tackles​ 2.9​ 0​ Hitouts​ 0​ 2.1​ Inside 50s​ 2.0​ 0.2​ Goal Assists​ 0.3​ 0.4​ Frees For​ 0.5​ 0.2​ Frees Against​ 0.7​ 3.1​ Contested Possessions​ 5.3​ 12.7​ Uncontested Possessions​ 10.5​ 13.4​ Effective Disposals​ 11.7​ 79.3%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 76.5%​ 1.6​ Clangers​ 1.8​ 0.2​ Contested Marks​ 0​ 0.1​ Marks Inside 50​ 0.3​ 0.9​ Clearances​ 2.1​ 2.5​ Rebound 50s​ 1.8​ 0.9​ One Percenters​ 0.9​ 0.1​ Bounces​ 0.1​ 70.0​ Time On Ground %​ 69.6​ 0.1​ Centre Clearances​ 0​ 0.8​ Stoppage Clearances​ 2.1​ 3.4​ Score Involvements​ 3.9​ 250.1​ Metres Gained​ 230.8​ 2.3​ Turnovers​ 2.4​ 3.6​ Intercepts​ 2.0​ 0.1​ Tackles Inside 50​ 0.5​ $392,000​ AFL Fantasy Price​ $580,000​ 65.2​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 62.2​ $200,400​ Supercoach Price​ $348,300​ 61.8​ Supercoach Score​ 65.2​

 

[malpaso]

I have no faith in the Roos usage of players as an indicator of their talent.

 

[malpaso]

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

Yeah I don't think so. Aish gets most of his stats in the back of the ground whereas JOM is earning them from the middle to forward lines (a lot harder)