Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[Joao]

I continue to be completely bemused that everything suggests we can "get away with" 9 and 16 while Baker is consistently talked about as pick 10-15 and Rioli is clearly pick 6. We honestly seem to be comfortably getting the most reasonable price on the best and most contracted player at Richmond.

Strange times

Always funny watching someone have nothing going in their life so they associate their value with their sport team

You shut up sir, I have plenty else going on.

 

[Polo342]

Would we actually take Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

if he was cheap?

 

[Joao]

Would we actually take Tim Kelly if he was cheap?

Probably, but he'd have to be REAL cheap and I can't see the Eagles taking minimal picks AND covering salary.

 

[Cobbler]

Would we actually take Tim Kelly if he was cheap?

How cheap??

But, no.

 

[s_wd6]

When Jordan Clark was traded to us, did he pick freo specifically or was it just WA?

I don’t think there was ever an official trade request? Like done properly through the club and stuff. It was all just through journos.

 

[Polo342]

How cheap??

But, no.

I mean would we entertain Pick 27 and they pay some salary?

 

[Superkoops]

Well under this scenario I was hopeful we could give 6 and 27. So, keep 12 and 16.

Obviously, if it meant we gave 6 and 16 then the 2 spot downgrade from 10 to 12 would’ve been pointless.

I just think 6 and 9 for Bolton and Rioli align better then the other way around.

Richmond will want 6+16. We will likely save a F2 downgrade.

 

[Cobbler]

Richmond will want 6+16. We will likely save a F2 downgrade.

10 to 12 isn’t exactly a massive change.

But 10 does sound nicer as part of Pickett package.

 

[Cobbler]

I mean would we entertain Pick 27 and they pay some salary?

We probably would, but Kelly is 30.

 

[Superkoops]

10 to 12 isn’t exactly a massive change.

But 10 does sound nicer as part of Pickett package.

I’ll believe the Pickett trade stuff when the deal gets done. For now I’m taking no notice of the Pickett talk.

 

[CapitalA]

Richmond will want 6+16. We will likely save a F2 downgrade.

There is no way we are throwing in a F2 with the deal if anything it would be the other way around, that we want a bit more back so we haggle a F2 for a F3. Otherwise it will just be 9 and 16.

 

[Polo342]

We probably would, but Kelly is 30.

I would take him. He is old but gotta be better than fyfe

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Johnson and Jackson are key. Johnson needs to double his average clearance numbers and Jackson needs to start taking his marks. People are underestimating having a player life Fyfe to take the hits while also clearance dominant.

Fyfe isn't clearance dominant though. Yes we need a bigger body in there o compliment our midfield if Fyfe isnt there. Which is why Johnson/NOD/Erasmus are such keys to our 2025 chances. I also think Luke Jackson will spend more time as a midfielder in 2025.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

There is no way we are throwing in a F2 with the deal if anything it would be the other way around, that we want a bit more back so we haggle a F2 for a F3. Otherwise it will just be 9 and 16.

I think the deal will depend on how much salary Richmond absorb. I wouldn't mind a deal of 9, 16 and 27 with a later pick coming back if Richmond pays a significant part of Boltons salary.

 

[Cobbler]

I would take him. He is old but gotta be better than fyfe

If Fyfe and JOM retired right now, then I would take Kelly 100%.
The problem is they won’t and our selection committee isn’t brave enough and we’ll be playing Fyfe, JOM, Walters and Kelly.
So, for that reason I’d hate to pick him up.

I say let him rot at West Coast.

 

[BettercallSaul]

Always funny watching someone have nothing going in their life so they associate their value with their sport team

Hey, hey, leave me out of this.

 

[lint]

Fyfe isn't clearance dominant though. Yes we need a bigger body in there o compliment our midfield if Fyfe isnt there. Which is why Johnson/NOD/Erasmus are such keys to our 2025 chances. I also think Luke Jackson will spend more time as a midfielder in 2025.

Something that kind of stood out in the GF were the footskills. Warner probably butchered it the most, and he is comfortably better by foot than all three players you mentioned.

In modern football, when you need to be able to adjust offence on-field to what the opposition is giving you defensively, and also counter attack at speed - footskills, decision making and skill execution have never been more important.

I question how many Johnson/NOD/Erasmus/Sharp/Emmett/Banfield types one team can successfully carry in modern day football. I think footskills (ideally combined with leg speed) should be the number one directive for any incoming talent. I'd say of the players mentioned above, Johnson is the closest to being at an acceptable level. But he's far from elite in this area, and his in-game spatial awareness is a work in progress to say the least.

You can carry a few players at a pass/just acceptable level in regards to footskills, but without enough of it in your best 18, you're left with a graft/desperation/stamina/hustle team, without the necessary technique/silk to both control a game, and cut an opposition to shreds on the fast break/counter attack.

I'd suggest Young, Walters and Ryan (when he lowers his eyes) are our only elite kicks, and with Walters all but over and Mundy out the door, it's a cause for concern.

 

[Lach72]

If Fyfe and JOM retired right now, then I would take Kelly 100%.
The problem is they won’t and our selection committee isn’t brave enough and we’ll be playing Fyfe, JOM, Walters and Kelly.
So, for that reason I’d hate to pick him up.

I say let him rot at West Coast.

Why would you even with those two retiring?

We have Erasmus, Johnson and O’Driscoll who need midfield minutes and also Bolton who can move through there too.
**** Kelly

 

[Cobbler]

Why would you even with those two retiring?

We have Erasmus, Johnson and O’Driscoll who need midfield minutes and also Bolton who can move through there too.
**** Kelly

Fair.
But, Fyfe and JOM aren’t retiring so it’s not even a discussion.

 

[wakojako]

Trade period doesn't start for another week so listening to the radio is a waste of time. Is there any chatter on when the Bolton trade will be done?

 

[Cobbler]

Trade period doesn't start for another week so listening to the radio is a waste of time. Is there any chatter on when the Bolton trade will be done?

About 17 minutes before trade period closes

 

[fnerd]

I've called him out on FB a couple of times....he's never responded.

Is he on here?

Yea ,so what if I am ? you got a problem or wot m8?

 

[Taylor]

It's better for us if GC wants that pick #6 to be downgraded and not just a straight swap. Something like #6 for Rioli and #16 so that Richmond gets our deal done faster.

 

[Dockeroo]

Trade period doesn't start for another week so listening to the radio is a waste of time. Is there any chatter on when the Bolton trade will be done?

Just play the monopoly game on the MyMaccas app until it opens Jako

 

[Joao]

Trade period doesn't start for another week so listening to the radio is a waste of time. Is there any chatter on when the Bolton trade will be done?

I think it gets done in the first week. Multiple journos reporting 9+16 already.

Contrast with Houston, for example, which clearly seems like its going to the wire, especially if it is Carlton. Because they are being stingy campaigners.