List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Swiggy]

Rosas won't leave GC unless we offered a stupid amount. Gold Coast being stubborn.

I'd like Konstanty as a DFA, but I'm also not opposed to giving Emmett another 12 months to prove himself.

Haven’t seen much of Konstanty myself but did like him in his draft year

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Melbourne need a small reset. It's actually lunacy they think they can turn things around in one year. They need to rejuvenate their list because atm they don't have the personnel to make top four and losing Oliver will make that worse.

Petracca is only 28 so they have time to turn things around before he retires. The chances of Pickett staying until the end of his contract in 2027 are low so he won't be there when they turn things around. Might as well load up on trade capital and draft/bring in players. Literally every premiership team goes through this.

Gawn is 33 next year, Petracca is injury prone and no Oliver, they aren't going to make finals next year.

They won one flag with all of Gawn, Trac, May, Lever, Fritsch and Oliver in absolute full flight and their prime and massive contributions from Kozzie and Jackson.

Comapre to where they are at now and it's nothing but complete delusion if they think they can win a flag again. In fact, I don't believe anyone at the club can actually be that delusional and so only care about their own jobs by not restarting

 

[freocuz]

and i want an 11inch shlong but that's not going to happen is it

Be careful what you wish for, somethings are a curse.


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[s_wd6]

Now Martin is out the picture they surely have a dip at another small forward

Bit late for that now. I remember us scrambling to find a replacement for Schultz last year when he told us around this time. Everyone who was on the market had been having long conversations with other clubs before we even got into the picture

 

[malpaso]

Clarry gone, Petracca coming off a big injury, Viney slows down considerably as the season goes on. They have noone capable in the midfield so they played Rivers there. Sparrow offers not much..
Goneskis.

Pickett will be delivering the final nail...

 

[Docker82]

Pickett is 23, they’ll try to keep him as long as they can

Depends on their ladder position IMO. They’re still close enough to the top eight that they can think they can still make finals (or more if they’re delusional enough). If they finish bottom four next year, it’s more than possible Melbourne are more open to a trade and Pickett therefore requesting one.

They’re an injury to Gawn or Petracca away from being one of the competition’s genuinely sh** teams IMO.

 

[guidodp15]

Be careful what you wish for, somethings are a curse.


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there are good curses and bad curses

 

[malpaso]

Geelong going to trade for them how? What picks?
Unless ask some players to be traded.
Close for example could.

Geelong win by short fleecing others. Same old. Meanwhile Fremantle traded second rounder for Clark even though he was never a B22 lock

Clark was always going to be in our best 22. He was blackballed by Scarlett, guess what happened, they dumped Scarlett and traded Clark.

 

[Duz97]

Richmond fans have to be the most delusional fans in the league don’t think I’ve seen anyone over value their players like they have been

 

[thebillynade]

Haven’t seen much of Konstanty myself but did like him in his draft year

I like him, I'm also a Gippslander myself though so may be biased.

 

[Lach72]

#9, #16 and Knobel to Richmond for Bolton, #39 and #41

Leaves us with #10, #27, #39, #41, #63

Gross

 

[dominguez]

Think Melbourne will take unders to get him out. Maybe F1 & sometime small on top. But they have to get smith too I guess. McCure said Oliver knows trade mightn’t happen

A guy out of form with off field issues on a million a year.....F2 would be fair, F1 is a great deal for Melbourne.

 

[Swiggy]

Bit late for that now. I remember us scrambling to find a replacement for Schultz last year when he told us around this time. Everyone who was on the market had been having long conversations with other clubs before we even got into the picture

Still plenty of time clubs haven’t really even met properly yet. Someone will pop up. Ginnivan and JOM are 2 off the top of my head in last 2 years that only come up day or 2 before deadline day.

Only way I don’t think they go for someone is if they try to get into next year for Warner

 

[wakojako]

They won one flag with all of Gawn, Trac, May, Lever, Fritsch and Oliver in absolute full flight and their prime and massive contributions from Kozzie and Jackson.

Comapre to where they are at now and it's nothing but complete delusion if they think they can win a flag again. In fact, I don't believe anyone at the club can actually be that delusional and so only care about their own jobs by not restarting

That's what I'm saying, they won't make finals next year so idk what's the point of keeping players that want to leave unless they believe they can contend. They can turn it around quickly if they stock up on draft picks. Replacing Oliver should be priority one.

 

[thebillynade]

On the whole, Dees trading Clarry and then blowing it up further by trading Kozzie thing, I think there is a commercial factor that might stop them dealing both. Sure the draft capital is great for them but trading all your fan's favourite players when they're already fuming at the club is a recipe for disaster. Dees fans are out for blood at the minute and they have to manage the backlash, keeping Kozzie probably helps them do that.

 

[Docker82]

A guy out of form with off field issues on a million a year.....F2 would be fair, F1 is a great deal for Melbourne.

Going to be very interesting what the value is.

Even a F1 is incredibly unders for what he’s produced in the past but if Geelong pay a significant part of his salary I can see this one approaching salary cap dump territory. Given how great he was in the past a F2 is bordering a salary cap dump.

 

[Lach72]

Dees are almost at that stage where you’d build around Rivers, Windsor and JVR, possibly Pickett. And clear the decks on the rest.

May is old, Viney and Gawn are old, but you keep them until they break for leadership.

I think they have to keep Petracca as no one will pay the Picks….at least this year.
But Pickett may be shaken loose so they use the Oliver picks, plus pick 6 or whatever they have plus the Pickett picks and load up now

 

[Lach72]

 

[thebillynade]

A guy out of form with off field issues on a million a year.....F2 would be fair, F1 is a great deal for Melbourne.

The unique thing about this situation is the guy out of form is still only 27 and was on track to be an all-time great of his footy club. At his best he's the sort of player that commands 2 good firsts, getting him for a F1 could turn into the heist of a lifetime. Tough decisions for both the chaser and the owner.

 

[Swiggy]

Dees are almost at that stage where you’d build around Rivers, Windsor and JVR, possibly Pickett. And clear the decks on the rest.

May is old, Viney and Gawn are old, but you keep them until they break for leadership.

I think they have to keep Petracca as no one will pay the Picks….at least this year.
But Pickett may be shaken loose so they use the Oliver picks, plus pick 6 or whatever they have plus the Pickett picks and load up now

Can’t see them rebuilding right now. Maxy & the like would want to have 1 more crack with this list. Just can’t see Pickett being traded. More than happy to be wrong.

 

[Docker82]

Dees are almost at that stage where you’d build around Rivers, Windsor and JVR, possibly Pickett. And clear the decks on the rest.

May is old, Viney and Gawn are old, but you keep them until they break for leadership.

I think they have to keep Petracca as no one will pay the Picks….at least this year.
But Pickett may be shaken loose so they use the Oliver picks, plus pick 6 or whatever they have plus the Pickett picks and load up now

Rivers is possibly the second biggest flight risk (i.e. leaving Victoria) on their list.

Only reason it’s not more likely he’ll be on our list than Melbourne’s in 3-4 years is that there’s a team at Laithlain. No idea who he’d prefer from the two clubs but he won’t be at Melbourne past free agency.

 

[DMan 11]

My 2 cent valued hypothetical is this:

1. We get Shai Bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

in after useless posturing from WCE
2. We take our first pick to the draft, take best available irrespective of player position.
3. We bundle later picks to another team needing points into what will hopefully transpire to be an earlier pick next year

IMO, Warner is not happening this year.
Still think it’s 50/50 whether Warner actually leaves Sydney at all.
If anything happens with Warner it’s next year.
WCE will be doing everything in their power next year to get him too - it’s going to be a bunfight between us next year.

Kossie aint leaving Melbourne…..


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[Polo342]

I need CTD or Jammomonty to come on here and categorically rule out Pickett before i give up hope . Although Twomey normally knows his stuff.

 

[_007_]

I need CTD or Jammomonty to come on here and categorically rule out Pickett before i give up hope . Although Twomey normally knows his stuff.

CTD has posted that there is truth to Pickett.

 

[Madas]

IF Pickett is available we should be choosing him over over Warner. The cost of bringing in Warner (cap and picks) can blow up in our face, not to mention he isn't even guaranteed to come to Freo and could change his mind. A rational organisation in this circumstance would choose Pickett, regardless of any guarantees made. Our list is so close to contending. It's taken years to get here and I don't want to piss it away on one player.

I’m mostly on board with this BUT Bolton kind of plays like Pickett but neither Bolton nor Pickett play like Warner
And neither do any of our other mids , they are all fairly slow and dont have all round elite disposal ( Serongs handballs are elite )

I just want whichever of them want to come here to be honest and I’d be surprised if it’s both ( knowing our luck though it probably will be and we have to watch one of them end up at the Slime )