Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[Suma Says]

Melbourne need a small reset. It's actually lunacy they think they can turn things around in one year. They need to rejuvenate their list because atm they don't have the personnel to make top four and losing Oliver will make that worse.

Petracca is only 28 so they have time to turn things around before he retires. The chances of Pickett staying until the end of his contract in 2027 are low so he won't be there when they turn things around. Might as well load up on trade capital and draft/bring in players. Literally every premiership team goes through this.

Gawn is 33 next year, Petracca is injury prone and no Oliver, they aren't going to make finals next year.

And if they dont.... well we have a recent example of a team who refused to accept the need to rejuvenate right across town from us.

Choose wisely Dees

 

[thebillynade]

Ok who else is on the small forward available list?
Richards? Port
Owies
Rosa
Jacob Konstanty

Keep Emmett?

Offer hill shit load to get him home?

Rosas won't leave GC unless we offered a stupid amount. Gold Coast being stubborn.

I'd like Konstanty as a DFA, but I'm also not opposed to giving Emmett another 12 months to prove himself.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

The Oliver situation might mean the Cats have to trade SDK.SDK going to the Bulldogs might cause JUH leaving to Sydney.Warner traded to Freo for picks.

I just solved the Trade Period. I am the Illuminati.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Geelong isn't enticing players to come join them by offering them well below market value. There's clearly some dodgy back door stuff going on which is why players are forfeiting hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to play for them. Salary cap is kinda useless to have in place when some clubs have the means to offer all these extra incenties.

It's like being back in the 1980s Carlton era. Actually it's worse, because we're part of the comp now, banging our heads against the wall of this corruption, all while having Dillon and Kane and so on pissing in our pockets about equalisation and integrity

 

[Swiggy]

My point is he will be gone by the time they are contending again. If they want to fast track their reset might as well bank pick 10 + F1 and trade in a player/draft.

They don’t think they need a rebuild tho? They are moving the trouble out. That’s not Pickett unfortunately

 

[DocT]

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worth to Geelong?
He's a jet at the start of his peak age, tarnished somewhat by an ACL and coking it up.
Is Geelong's pick 15 and F1 enough? Probably not.

His stats and age are similar to our Caleb, but Caleb literally has no downsides, he is a durable dude and a leader. I guess we'd be asking for the equivalent of Pick 1 and some more as his value.

 

[Docker82]

Has to be a gun or the right type of small forward for us to target them.

No point getting someone like Owies who’d probably score 25 goals for the year for us but meanwhile our forward pressure is the worst of any AFL team this decade.

Emmett is actually the right type of player IMO. Being the right type of player and being good are two different things though.

 

[Swiggy]

Rosas won't leave GC unless we offered a stupid amount. Gold Coast being stubborn.

I'd like Konstanty as a DFA, but I'm also not opposed to giving Emmett another 12 months to prove himself.

Haven’t seen much of Konstanty myself but did like him in his draft year

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Melbourne need a small reset. It's actually lunacy they think they can turn things around in one year. They need to rejuvenate their list because atm they don't have the personnel to make top four and losing Oliver will make that worse.

Petracca is only 28 so they have time to turn things around before he retires. The chances of Pickett staying until the end of his contract in 2027 are low so he won't be there when they turn things around. Might as well load up on trade capital and draft/bring in players. Literally every premiership team goes through this.

Gawn is 33 next year, Petracca is injury prone and no Oliver, they aren't going to make finals next year.

They won one flag with all of Gawn, Trac, May, Lever, Fritsch and Oliver in absolute full flight and their prime and massive contributions from Kozzie and Jackson.

Comapre to where they are at now and it's nothing but complete delusion if they think they can win a flag again. In fact, I don't believe anyone at the club can actually be that delusional and so only care about their own jobs by not restarting

 

[freocuz]

and i want an 11inch shlong but that's not going to happen is it

Be careful what you wish for, somethings are a curse.


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[s_wd6]

Now Martin is out the picture they surely have a dip at another small forward

Bit late for that now. I remember us scrambling to find a replacement for Schultz last year when he told us around this time. Everyone who was on the market had been having long conversations with other clubs before we even got into the picture

 

[malpaso]

Clarry gone, Petracca coming off a big injury, Viney slows down considerably as the season goes on. They have noone capable in the midfield so they played Rivers there. Sparrow offers not much..
Goneskis.

Pickett will be delivering the final nail...

 

[Docker82]

Pickett is 23, they’ll try to keep him as long as they can

Depends on their ladder position IMO. They’re still close enough to the top eight that they can think they can still make finals (or more if they’re delusional enough). If they finish bottom four next year, it’s more than possible Melbourne are more open to a trade and Pickett therefore requesting one.

They’re an injury to Gawn or Petracca away from being one of the competition’s genuinely sh** teams IMO.

 

[guidodp15]

Be careful what you wish for, somethings are a curse.


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there are good curses and bad curses

 

[malpaso]

Geelong going to trade for them how? What picks?
Unless ask some players to be traded.
Close for example could.

Geelong win by short fleecing others. Same old. Meanwhile Fremantle traded second rounder for Clark even though he was never a B22 lock

Clark was always going to be in our best 22. He was blackballed by Scarlett, guess what happened, they dumped Scarlett and traded Clark.

 

[Duz97]

Richmond fans have to be the most delusional fans in the league don’t think I’ve seen anyone over value their players like they have been

 

[thebillynade]

Haven’t seen much of Konstanty myself but did like him in his draft year

I like him, I'm also a Gippslander myself though so may be biased.

 

[Lach72]

#9, #16 and Knobel to Richmond for Bolton, #39 and #41

Leaves us with #10, #27, #39, #41, #63

Gross

 

[dominguez]

Think Melbourne will take unders to get him out. Maybe F1 & sometime small on top. But they have to get smith too I guess. McCure said Oliver knows trade mightn’t happen

A guy out of form with off field issues on a million a year.....F2 would be fair, F1 is a great deal for Melbourne.

 

[Swiggy]

Bit late for that now. I remember us scrambling to find a replacement for Schultz last year when he told us around this time. Everyone who was on the market had been having long conversations with other clubs before we even got into the picture

Still plenty of time clubs haven’t really even met properly yet. Someone will pop up. Ginnivan and JOM are 2 off the top of my head in last 2 years that only come up day or 2 before deadline day.

Only way I don’t think they go for someone is if they try to get into next year for Warner

 

[wakojako]

They won one flag with all of Gawn, Trac, May, Lever, Fritsch and Oliver in absolute full flight and their prime and massive contributions from Kozzie and Jackson.

Comapre to where they are at now and it's nothing but complete delusion if they think they can win a flag again. In fact, I don't believe anyone at the club can actually be that delusional and so only care about their own jobs by not restarting

That's what I'm saying, they won't make finals next year so idk what's the point of keeping players that want to leave unless they believe they can contend. They can turn it around quickly if they stock up on draft picks. Replacing Oliver should be priority one.

 

[thebillynade]

On the whole, Dees trading Clarry and then blowing it up further by trading Kozzie thing, I think there is a commercial factor that might stop them dealing both. Sure the draft capital is great for them but trading all your fan's favourite players when they're already fuming at the club is a recipe for disaster. Dees fans are out for blood at the minute and they have to manage the backlash, keeping Kozzie probably helps them do that.

 

[Docker82]

A guy out of form with off field issues on a million a year.....F2 would be fair, F1 is a great deal for Melbourne.

Going to be very interesting what the value is.

Even a F1 is incredibly unders for what he’s produced in the past but if Geelong pay a significant part of his salary I can see this one approaching salary cap dump territory. Given how great he was in the past a F2 is bordering a salary cap dump.

 

[Lach72]

Dees are almost at that stage where you’d build around Rivers, Windsor and JVR, possibly Pickett. And clear the decks on the rest.

May is old, Viney and Gawn are old, but you keep them until they break for leadership.

I think they have to keep Petracca as no one will pay the Picks….at least this year.
But Pickett may be shaken loose so they use the Oliver picks, plus pick 6 or whatever they have plus the Pickett picks and load up now

 

[Lach72]