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AFLW 2024 - Round 6 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Cue the conspiracy theories about Kozzy and Chad not being mentioned.Fremantle list boss David Walls says they won’t overpay to bring Richmond star Shai Bolton but conceded two first-round picks was a fair asking price for the dual premiership star.
The Dockers are set to be one of the biggest players in this year’s trade period when it opens on Monday because of their strong draft hand which includes picks No.10, No.11 and No.18.
Bolton has requested a trade back to WA with Fremantle in best position to get the South Fremantle product home despite his four years still to run on his contract at the Tigers.
Walls said they had begun conversations around bringing Bolton home and conceded they had to give up two picks to land the top-end talent.
“We’ve caught up a few times and we’ve talked so it’s step-by-step … they’ve got a fair idea where we sit with it all. And Shai’s pretty keen to come, it’s just being able to work it out with Richmond,” Walls told The West Australian.
“It’s expensive but he’s got four years to run on his contract and he’s a top-end player. He was leading their best and fairest at round 16 this year, he’s always finished in the top five.
“When you look historically that lines up. There are first-rounders and then there’s first rounders as well. If you’re talking the top 10 or around that mark or if you’re talking pick 16 through to 18 or 19 there’s a bit of a difference with that. But it wouldn’t be too far off the mark.”
Richmond are likely to want the Dockers top two picks of 10 and 11, but Fremantle are reported to want to only send one of those along with 18 to get the deal done.
Walls said the Dockers weren’t yet at a stage in the negotiations where they were haggling over which of the three first-round picks they’d trade but warned if it got too expensive, they were comfortable to not do the deal and bring in young talent.
“We’ll set what we think is the right price to pay but like all these things we’ll position ourselves to do what’s best for the club,” he said.
“We’re not going to be just looking for that sugar hit, short-term win we’ll be looking at what is a fair price to pay, bring him in and get an immediate impact.
“If it gets too expensive, we’re happy to go back to the draft. And it’s a good, good draft to be, so we’ve got to work out where it sits and what Richmond’s expectations are which we haven’t got to yet.”
The Dockers also had interest in Richmond vice-captain Liam Baker, who has instead chosen to reconnect with former Tigers assistant coach Andrew McQualter at West Coast.
“We would’ve liked to have brought him in and we’ve pursued him for a number of years going back to his last contract,” Walls said.
“We’ve said it at a level too where we say you’d like to bring him in but it’s not like we’re going to overpay and be ridiculous with what we’re giving up for him.
“We look at it and say our fallback position is we’ve got the early pick, you haven’t spent the money so your (salary) cap’s in better shape and you’ve also got a first-round pick to use.
“It would’ve been nice but the alternative is a good result as well.”
Delisted Carlton and Gold Coast forward Jack Martin was also on their radar, but he is heading to Geelong to rejuvenate his career.
“Jack was going to really be a risk whichever way you look at it when you look at his injury history,” Walls said.
“When he’s up and going he’s a top line player but his injury history is significant, so it was at a level where we were prepared to look at it as a risk but we weren’t going to spend a lot.”
Compo picks are a joke.Last on here a few days ago at p.465 ish... what the hell has happened to make it jump to 505?
Anyone care to provide a TLDR for me? Please?
Anything more definite moving into Monday?
Compo picks are a joke.
That’s about it really.
Certainly a very GWS thing to do. Maybe Saints are interested in splitting one of their top 10 picks in which case GWS might be inclined to send 15 and 16 to them.GWS get band 2 (pick 22) for Cumming.
Gives them 15,16,21. Could we try to do 11 for 16,21 or similar?
With other bits to balance - just gives us an extra first to work with even for drafting needs?
Edit: This would likely only work if Pickett/Warner are definitely off the table for 2024.
Could trade 10/16 for Bolton.
18 and 21 to the draft and satisfy the 2in4 rule for the next four years to get aggressive over that period too.
Todd Curley was our backline coach when Mark Harvey was in chargeNo idea about his coaching resume but I went to unit with him and he was a great guy.
Hawks supporters reckon he is cookedHe wasn’t exactly carried, quite the opposite, he performed very well most games. Compare that to Sonny now and there’s your definition of carrying a player
Ok , thanks. More than Collingwood!!!During Covid the AFL approached WC about a loan of about fifty million to float them through since WC has/had nearly ninety million in liquid or near liquid assets on hand at the time.
SSHHH don't mention the latter.Todd Curley was our backline coach when Mark Harvey was in charge
Bruest averaged 1.1 goals per year this year. Walters averaged 1.0. Not a huge difference.
I’d do 10> 15,21GWS get band 2 (pick 22) for Cumming.
Gives them 15,16,21. Could we try to do 11 for 16,21 or similar?
With other bits to balance - just gives us an extra first to work with even for drafting needs?
Edit: This would likely only work if Pickett/Warner are definitely off the table for 2024.
Could trade 10/16 for Bolton.
18 and 21 to the draft and satisfy the 2in4 rule for the next four years to get aggressive over that period too.
Anything worthwhile?
Basically that we have a top 4 list and should have played finals the last 2 years. Questions over the coach.Anything worthwhile?
I still think we lack the mature KPP depth to be a top 4 list. Our best 22, easily, but were hideously exposed when our KPP depth this year was entirely players who hadn’t debuted yet.Basically that we have a top 4 list and should have played finals the last 2 years. Questions over the coach.
Good summary of how we have done in draft. No free agents. Forgetting that Freo basically can’t get any free agents. It’s not an avenue open to us in a meaningful manner.
Didn’t mention Draper or Walker in their review of our drafting which was a small oversight
Possibly lacking an experienced backup key forward. That was meant to be tabs but of course he was cooked.I still think we lack the mature KPP depth to be a top 4 list. Our best 22, easily, but were hideously exposed when our KPP depth this year was entirely players who hadn’t debuted yet.
During Covid the AFL approached WC about a loan of about fifty million to float them through since WC has/had nearly ninety million in liquid or near liquid assets on hand at the time.