List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

fnerd · 2024-10-05T15:53:13+1000

Vimal Anand said:
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Hence why the AFL were all too happy to hand out rd 1 compos like candy (helps no hoper vic side and one of their darlings GWS) whilst biggest loser was freo

Win/win for the AFL
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MadMundy · 2024-10-05T16:07:13+1000

I doubt the negotiations around Bolton are going all that badly, I honestly think we've already reached a deal, but the AFL wants to keep it quiet to draw out the drama.

It seems like a fairly straightforward deal. 10 and 11 for Bolton, that's what it will be now, or whatever those two picks end up ballooning out to.

Snuffaluphagus · 2024-10-05T16:11:03+1000

MadMundy said:
I doubt the negotiations around Bolton are going all that badly, I honestly think we've already reached a deal, but the AFL wants to keep it quiet to draw out the drama.

It seems like a fairly straightforward deal. 10 and 11 for Bolton, that's what it will be now.

You are bizarre. You've gone to shouting it's 9 and 16 to now jumping to 10/11 immediately

MadMundy · 2024-10-05T16:12:20+1000

Snuffaluphagus said:
You are bizarre. You've gone to shouting it's 9 and 16 to now jumping to 10/11 immediately

I never said I wanted 10 and 11 did I? At the end of the day I think that's what's going to happen. I want 9 and 16 as much as the next guy, I don't think that's happening anymore. Our picks have ballooned out too much.

Remember, big difference between what we want and what will happen.

Snuffaluphagus · 2024-10-05T16:14:15+1000

MadMundy said:
I never said I wanted 10 and 11 did I? At the end of the day I think that's what's going to happen. I want 9 and 16 as much as the next guy, I don't think that's happening anymore. Our picks have ballooned out too much.

Remember, big difference between what we want and what will happen.

I'm pretty comfortable either way, even if I really want to take 11 to the draft but you've just done a complete 180 because the picks moved marginally.

MadMundy · 2024-10-05T16:15:43+1000

Snuffaluphagus said:
I'm pretty comfortable either way, even if I really want to take 11 to the draft but you've just done a complete 180 because the picks moved marginally.

I've done a 180 because as much as I hold out hope that it ends up being our earliest and latest first round picks, I just can't see it happening now, I have to let go of the denial.

Lach72 · 2024-10-05T16:16:20+1000

10 and 11 and 23 back with Bolton.

Take 18, 21 and 27 to the draft.

Only thing that moves that needle is Pickett coming.

Superkoops · 2024-10-05T16:18:00+1000

Snuffaluphagus said:
You are bizarre. You've gone to shouting it's 9 and 16 to now jumping to 10/11 immediately

Agreed - when reading the start of his post I didn’t expect him to go a deal has been reached at 10/11. Wallsy has already come out and said if that is the price they will walk away.

Negotiations are well down the track. The initial Freo offering only 9 have now progressed to 10+18 and Richmond wanting 10+11 and Walls coming out saying it won’t be 10+11. So they now haggle on the missing pieces to keep Richmond happy. Those pieces will include current and future second and third round picks to swap/upgrade etc.

Heave Ho Bro · 2024-10-05T16:18:57+1000

MadMundy said:
I never said I wanted 10 and 11 did I? At the end of the day I think that's what's going to happen. I want 9 and 16 as much as the next guy, I don't think that's happening anymore. Our picks have ballooned out too much.

Remember, big difference between what we want and what will happen.

Most of us knew the picks would slide a bit. Sure the clubs were also aware. The picks are still effectively 10 and 11 even if they slide further because any bids on draft night don't really matter as those players were never really available (Ashcroft, Kako etc.).

MadMundy · 2024-10-05T16:22:12+1000

Heave Ho Bro said:
Most of us knew the picks would slide a bit. Sure the clubs were also aware.

Well we can only hope it stays the same, my confidence is slipping.

Heave Ho Bro · 2024-10-05T16:23:56+1000

MadMundy said:
Well we can only hope it stays the same, my confidence is slipping.

Walls pretty much said we aren't giving those 2 top picks.

Vimal Anand · 2024-10-05T16:38:27+1000

Gws is a good chance if Richmond stubborn? 11 and 18 for their 15 and 16?
Our 18 jumps 2 spots but 11 slides 4 spots, so they may need to add a second as well as Walls said pick 11 is very valuable to us?

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FreoRicci · 2024-10-05T16:48:11+1000

Actually jealous of Richmond’s draft strategy. Best way to do it tbh. Just push everyone out.
West Coast should’ve done this in 2020.

Baker - pick 13
Graham - second round pick?
Bolton - 9 and another first round.
Rioli - pick 6 and second round ?

Very handy draft hand.

Could actually go one better and split pick 1 for 2 first rounders.

DeanS · 2024-10-05T17:02:26+1000

Heave Ho Bro said:
Walls pretty much said we aren't giving those 2 top picks.

As you would expect him to in this preliminary stage of negotiations known as Bluff.

Vintage · 2024-10-05T17:14:24+1000

Any chance the Bolton deal is 10, 11 (actually 12, 13 by draft night) with next years second rounder coming back (pick 19 likely before compo picks etc)?

I’m starting to think our first and 3rd picks won’t be enough and it will have to be the first 2 with something back, but they might want to keep 21 this year.

Dump Truck · 2024-10-05T17:14:58+1000

FUS_RO_DAH said:
Hamish on Backchat laughing off the Trade Radio rumour about Andy househunting in Melbourne. Just to put any anxiety to rest

It's honestly staggering how many Freo fans are worried about Brayshaw. Bloke's less of a flight risk than Johnny the Doc.

wakojako · 2024-10-05T17:18:28+1000

s_wd6 can you stalk Knobel's insta and see if there is any hints about his future.

Taylor · 2024-10-05T17:20:55+1000

I don't think there's anything different to us offering our first and third first round pick.

The demand for #13 should mean our #11 is in even higher demand.

thebillynade · 2024-10-05T17:21:24+1000

Vintage said:
Any chance the Bolton deal is 10, 11 (actually 12, 13 by draft night) with next years second rounder coming back (pick 19 likely before compo picks etc)?

I’m starting to think our first and 3rd picks won’t be enough and it will have to be the first 2 with something back, but they might want to keep 21 this year.

I'm close to certain that the Bolton trade will go like this, They'll ask for 10 and 11. We will say no, but how about 11 and 18? They'll say no. Then we will go, how about 10 and 18, and they will go, yeah, that sounds okay but give us a little more.

Then it will end up being 10 and 18 plus a swap of later picks and we all walk away happy.

s_wd6 · 2024-10-05T17:22:57+1000

wakojako said:
s_wd6 can you stalk Knobel's insta and see if there is any hints about his future.

Following the pelicans so I think he’s looking at a move to New Orleans

Jezzitizle · 2024-10-05T17:26:01+1000

s_wd6 said:
Following the pelicans so I think he’s looking at a move to New Orleans

I think Walls can get someone decent for us out of the nba draft if we trade him there.

thebillynade · 2024-10-05T17:26:32+1000

thebillynade said:
I'm close to certain that the Bolton trade will go like this, They'll ask for 10 and 11. We will say no, but how about 11 and 18? They'll say no. Then we will go, how about 10 and 18, and they will go, yeah, that sounds okay but give us a little more.

Then it will end up being 10 and 18 plus a swap of later picks and we all walk away happy.

Adding to this, although 10 and 18 are a big price for Bolton, he is going to transform how our forward line functions. It's like slotting prime Sonny in there. He's a major threat in the air, whilst also being one of the most damaging players in the comp at ground level. His 2022 was absurd and I think in the right system he can better that.

We would've finished top 4 and contended fo the flag this year if we had Bolton in our forward pocket. 0 Chance we lose against Port, Blues, Pies and Essendon with him.

Chris25 · 2024-10-05T17:32:48+1000

FreoRicci said:
Actually jealous of Richmond’s draft strategy. Best way to do it tbh. Just push everyone out.
West Coast should’ve done this in 2020.

Probably a bit generous to call it a ‘strategy’. Play really bad and then recruit and develop so poorly that your few good players want to leave.

thebillynade · 2024-10-05T17:35:43+1000

Chris25 said:
Probably a bit generous to call it a ‘strategy’. Play really bad and then recruit and develop so poorly that your few good players want to leave.

It is also super over-glorified cause it's the Tigs, I said to a mate the other day that they're either drafting a third of their next premiership side or they are about to become the biggest draft meme of the modern era.

I think it's more likely the later.

freo_leo29 · 2024-10-05T17:38:08+1000

thebillynade said:
It is also super over-glorified cause it's the Tigs, I said to a mate the other day that they're either drafting a third of their next premiership side or they are about to become the biggest draft meme of the modern era.

I think it's more likely the later.

seems a pretty hard draft to stuff up though

unless their development sucks

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