List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[nurries]

What if we're also stuck having to pay Corey Warner 3-400k as part of the deal.

Theres also a 3rd warner

 

[DQ 4EVER]

Theres also a 3rd warner

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[The Feeder Club]

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Don't say you weren't forewarned everyone

 

[DragoDelph]

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We’re gonna need a bigger water tower

 

[malpaso]

Don't say you weren't forewarnered everyone

fixed..

 

[The Feeder Club]

fixed..

for the crowd that needs the poor pun explained

 

[Lach72]

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If he stays, good news and thanks Vic Bros for putting on the pressure. If he leaves, you suck Vic campaigners, stay in your lane

 

[Joao]

How are Pies getting that done? Even if you can trade 2x futures I'm not taking that from them, even I think they are a decent chance to fall out the bottom in one of those years.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

How are Pies getting that done? Even if you can trade 2x futures I'm not taking that from them, even I think they are a decent chance to fall out the bottom in one of those years.

Would have to have warning a player is moving or something surely which is interesting in itself

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Also, Ralph had an article today saying the AFL is getting feedback from the clubs again on the proposed overhauls on the 25th of June. Just seems ridiculous that it takes THIS long

 

[freo_leo29]

Need Logan to only sign a 2 year deal at the swans


Another club poaching him is worst case scenario, opens their cap up

 

[doppo]

If he stays, good news and thanks Vic Bros for putting on the pressure. If he leaves, you suck Vic campaigners, stay in your lane

Schrödinger's Mcdonald

 

[DaveLister]

Between 3 firsts this year, a 4th next year and the saints 2nd, do we have enough trade currency to get both?

Ignor cap space.

 

[Taylor]

A similar scenario evolved when Cerra was leaving us as an OOC player. He wanted to get to Melbourne first but they didn’t have anywhere near the picks required to trade for him. Guess what? A deal didn’t happen.
He then chose Carlton because they were willing to part with pick 5.

That wasn't what happened, Freo were happy to deal with Melbourne because they wanted to include Luke Jackson in the trade but Melbourne backed out of that.

The club can only trade what they have, if what they have includes the interest of one of our players then it forms part of the value the club has to trade.

And I was one of the biggest cheerleaders for getting Jackson across so your little make believe head cannon of what you think I'd do to prove your point is irrelevant.

We paid two firsts for Jackson, they should have been #13 and a #14 plus a second because both our picks were rubbish but that's what we had and if we had, say pick #2 like the Eagles then that would have been involved in the trade.

Freo has currently:
4x 1st round picks + 1x 2nd from 2024, or
3x 1st round picks + 2x 2nds from 2024/2025

The 2025 2nd is much different value to the 2024 one due to the team it's tied to.

We have 5x pick in the top 25 or, 4x top 25 picks and 1x top 35 pick.

BUT, if we do not secure Warner in trade this year our holdings, presuming we spend our picks now, will be:

2x top twenty picks (1st x2) and 1x top thirty pick.

We have significantly less currency end of next year, by a whole 3x top 25 picks, in which to secure him.

So yes, my point that Freo won't be able to offer anything close to what we can end of 2024 at the end of the following year is so opposite of daft, it's spot on.

 

[Taylor]

This would be good for us if we can't get him, sign him for $150k more a season and they can shed some salary cap next season from a contracted player.

 

[Dockeroo]

Hard to understand how the pies could be in the running for Logan McDonald given they have no first round pick and will likely finish top 4, so next years one will not be worth much either. They also have a top end FS prospect next year, McGuane, if I recall correctly

 

[Docker82]

I agree that the top flight players retain their value much better.

It's the next tier down where the contracted/uncontracted status is more pronounced.

For example, we received a shitty 2nd rounder for Ed Langdon (uncontracted) but took all Saint's shit for Hill (contracted).

Hill was a fair bit better than Langdon. Let's be honest.

Was Langdon really much better than say Nathan Wilson when traded? Let's remember Wilson's first few years for us - not the final couple. He was pretty much our best rebounder and it wasn't because of lack of competition. He was quite a decent best 22 player.

Hill was probably in our top five players when traded. Let's not let him not playing that well again cloud our judgement. St Kilda's loss he's underperformed massively, not ours.

Also I think I've seen in my time two years on a contract makes a massive difference. One not so much. But tbf a lot of time two years on contract generally means said player isn't traded at all.

 

[Kram]

Langdon was a whipping boy when he was traded.

 

[gaskin]

I felt Langdon and Hill were about on par when they left. Both finished top 5 in the Doig the year they left and the year before only Langdon was top 5.

 

[Docker82]

Langdon was a whipping boy when he was traded.

This is how I remember it.

One was seen as a good kick, the other as a gun that couldn't hit the side of a barn.

Yes the B + F tells a different story but I'm not sure that's the best measure. If Melbourne thought he was as good as Hill then they would've paid much more. We would've got a first rounder minimum.

 

[gaskin]

If Melbourne thought he was as good as Hill then they would've paid much more. We would've got a first rounder minimum.

With the rumours at the time I think we were happy to just let him go so he didn't cause a scene.

 

[freo_leo29]

This is how I remember it.

One was seen as a good kick, the other as a gun that couldn't hit the side of a barn.

Yes the B + F tells a different story but I'm not sure that's the best measure. If Melbourne thought he was as good as Hill then they would've paid much more. We would've got a first rounder minimum.

Hill was under contract and Langdon was OOC

Hill had a name in Victoria as a 3x premiership player


Hill was definitely the better player but Langdon was underrated on here for sure

 

[WilloTree]

Hill was a fair bit better than Langdon. Let's be honest.

Was Langdon really much better than say Nathan Wilson when traded? Let's remember Wilson's first few years for us - not the final couple. He was pretty much our best rebounder and it wasn't because of lack of competition. He was quite a decent best 22 player.

Hill was probably in our top five players when traded. Let's not let him not playing that well again cloud our judgement. St Kilda's loss he's underperformed massively, not ours.

Also I think I've seen in my time two years on a contract makes a massive difference. One not so much. But tbf a lot of time two years on contract generally means said player isn't traded at all.

Langdon finished top 5 in the Doig in 2018 and 2019 (then won a Premiership in 2021).

You're underrating him.

 

[ubiquitous226]

This is how I remember it.

One was seen as a good kick, the other as a gun that couldn't hit the side of a barn.

Yes the B + F tells a different story but I'm not sure that's the best measure. If Melbourne thought he was as good as Hill then they would've paid much more. We would've got a first rounder minimum.

Langdon had plenty of supporters pulling their hair out because of his kicking, but his big thing was he kept developing at a rapid rate.
There were a lot of us that were pretty dirty at what we received back for him.

Having said that Hill was still clearly the better player, but Langdon was still very good and projecting as great.