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Nah we got the picks, we need another developing ruckman. Darcy's 57% availability over his career is atrocious and Knobel has a high ceiling.richmond may have interest in knobel
Has Knobel re-signed?Nah we got the picks, we need another developing ruckman. Darcy's 57% availability over his career is atrocious and Knobel has a high ceiling.
Nobody knows, but the club is deep in talks with Reid which is a worry.Has Knobel re-signed?
Being desperate does not mean you massively overpay.
This is old fremantle, where we would over pay for someone and then wonder why Lobb is playing for our side.
We need to be smart.
I think you're doing a version of what 1 of the Richmond fans was doing on the Bolton thread in taking stats out of context. There's a post that goes (now outdated stats) "players who've averaged 17.5 touches 1.5 goals 3.5 clearances: Bolton Warner Rankine" making it out like Shai Bolton is a unique specimen. Those stats are related to where he plays positionally and in terms of quality of team. There's about 10 other players in the AFL that I think could easily have those stats or better if you either increase their midfield time or fwd time to match Bolton's: guys like Papley, Greene, Bont, Petracca, etc.Why is Shai Bolton worth pick 7 alone, let alone pick 7 and pick 16 plus 1 million dollars a year.
Here are his stats, and we saw in our game he inflated them by having his team mate mark the ball (do the hard work) and do a short pass to him in the square.
His goal assists is very low. Can someone please point me towards some stats that show his value? If he was not a premiership player, then no one would talk him as much as they do.
I was expecting them to be much better, but he is a clear level behind the best Rankine and Green.
All stats are for current year, order by goals + goals assists.
I would rather through some cash at Matthew Owies, than target Bolton. You would probably get him for 500 to 600k and a 2nd rounder.
Toby Green and Izak Rankine average 3 goals and goal assists a game.
Bolton, Weightman, Owies aver 2 goals and goal assists a game.
Jones and Ginnivan averages 1.6 goals and goal assists a game.
Schultz at 1.4 (in a bad year)
KI MK HB DI GL BH HO TK RB IF CL CG FF FA BR CP UP CM MI 1% BO GA G+GA Toby Green 10.95 4.5 4.95 15.9 1.85 1.25 2.2 0.2 4.5 1.4 3.75 0.95 1.75 6.65 9.5 0.5 1.2 0.5 0.05 1.2 3.05Izak Rankine 11.79 3.36 6.93 18.71 1.93 0.64 3.43 0.79 4.07 3.79 3.71 0.79 1.29 10 9.57 0.14 1.14 1.64 1.5 1.07 3Coby Weightman 6.79 2.79 3.43 10.21 1.71 0.86 3.21 0.29 2.14 0.86 2.29 1.36 0.64 4.93 5.71 0.21 1.29 1.21 0.36 2.07Shai Bolton 10.2 3.75 7 17.2 1.5 1.2 2.55 0.4 3.95 3.35 3.85 0.6 0.85 7.3 10.45 0.45 1.5 1.5 2.15 0.55 2.05Matthew Owies 5.71 2.95 2.71 8.43 1.38 0.62 2.29 0.1 1.57 0.05 1.24 0.52 0.57 3.1 5.38 0.19 1.05 0.86 0.05 0.62 2Jack Ginnivan 10.53 4.21 6.26 16.79 1.21 1.21 2.63 0.16 3.16 1.16 3.21 1 0.89 5.32 11.42 0.05 1.32 0.79 0.11 0.42 1.63Darcy Jones 7.3 2.1 5.8 13.1 1 0.5 2.5 0.4 3 0.4 2 0.1 0.4 4.9 8.3 0.7 1 0.5 0.6 1.6Lachie Shultz 6.67 3.11 5.11 11.78 1.22 1.06 3.83 0.22 2 0.78 2.17 0.61 0.72 4 7.5 0.17 1.44 1.22 0.17 1.39
Cmon, if you have watched them both play you would know which one out of Bolton and Owies is better. It's actually not even close.
I think he's worth the Pies pick so pick 7 and maybe the saints second rounder (pick 24?). Would be very happy to get it done and increase our chances of winning a flag.
I've cooled on trading forward. They are bringing in the trading 2 x F1s so no need for Warner. Reckon we are better just using the pick this year (assuming we trade 2).I'd be happy with that.
Then look to maybe trade our pick or the Port pick for a future first so that we have 2 x firsts next year as leverage for Warner.
I've cooled on trading forward. They are bringing in the trading 2 x F1s so no need for Warner. Reckon we are better just using the pick this year (assuming we trade 2).
The death ride with a future first is fun though. Has made every Collingwood loss this year even more enjoyable.
Carlton also have a crap backline so we have them covered.Far out for some reason I was thinking of Owens from St Kilda. I had no idea what people were on about haha.
Yes, Bolton is much better than Owies from Carlton. Owies would not improve us - he's a slightly better but much older Emmett. Small forwards and one more A Grade mid are what will hold back Carlton just like us - We have the same problems as they do tbh.
I honestly think a second KPD that's not an absolute hack or undersized would just about fix their backline.Carlton also have a crap backline so we have them covered.
Chasing Owies would be like trying to pry Tabs out of Freo three years ago. Given all the opportunity in a side screaming out for a small forward and barely making the grade.
No current season stats available
yeah it’s one of the best comparisons I’ve seen yet on here and there’s been some absolute ball tearers on this site over the journeyOwies
FMD
Yeah this will be biggest reason to get Bolten as much as his actual outputWorth considering that having Bolton in the forward line with Freddy would stretch a team's ability to cover both of them on the charge back to goal. Frederick is a key player in Freo ball movement that leads to score, I think you can all picture him marking in the centre square and then driving it long to Treacy.
With two of them there won't be as much ability to hold space. We only have one Brandon Walker, imagine if we came up against a side with two speedy smalls that can mark high.
Not just Bolton, have Switta & Freddie in the team too and that is a lot of pace forward of centre.Yeah this will be biggest reason to get Bolten as much as his actual output
I don’t think people realise just how much havoc Bolten will cause oppo coaches and defences just by being in our side and playing that type of role for us
- it’s the flow on effect that will make all our other fwds become that much more dangerous