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Game, set, match!If Jye Amiss improves his involvements the same rate as he did this year but recaptures his accuracy at goal from 2023 then...
... he kicks 54 goals in 2025. 18 extra goals on this season.
We're not aiming to have a decent presence in the draft.If NOD, Voss and Reidy all re-sign as expected it’s hard to see how we fit both Bolton and Baker on the list and have a decent presence in the draft tbh. Without trading out players anyway.
If our third best draft selection is kind of late I think that’s a good time to stop but I don’t think I’d be taking any less than three selections in any draft.
We can probably view one of the Irish guys as a free selection so we’d still be bringing four in - the turnover will be bigger next year with Fyfe and Walters renting imo.
I'm convinced they are desperately trying to find a place to offload Brodie. Seems insane to carry his list spot with where they seem in the pecking orderIf NOD, Voss and Reidy all re-sign as expected it’s hard to see how we fit both Bolton and Baker on the list and have a decent presence in the draft tbh. Without trading out players anyway.
If our third best draft selection is kind of late I think that’s a good time to stop but I don’t think I’d be taking any less than three selections in any draft.
We can probably view one of the Irish guys as a free selection so we’d still be bringing four in - the turnover will be bigger next year with Fyfe and Walters renting imo.
It doesn’t matter anyway, Dusty has zero interest in rocking into a new club full of strangers. Dimma will let him do what ever he wants in terms of no media and it’s all for marketing purposes for GC as he’s cooked.He’s cooked.
Would have to play forward for us tbh and let’s be honest he’s too slow these days so it’d be about body strength in marking contest only. His forward pressure would be close to zero too.
No thanks.
Oh listen I’m 100% in agreement with you here.If NOD, Voss and Reidy all re-sign as expected it’s hard to see how we fit both Bolton and Baker on the list and have a decent presence in the draft tbh. Without trading out players anyway.
If our third best draft selection is kind of late I think that’s a good time to stop but I don’t think I’d be taking any less than three selections in any draft.
We can probably view one of the Irish guys as a free selection so we’d still be bringing four in - the turnover will be bigger next year with Fyfe and Walters renting imo.
Didnt we have a spare list spot not used in the MSD? Is that counted?What are we at then.
Excluding Corbett and Williams
Tabs, Hughes and Kuek are three spots. Assume one of the rucks goes out and then both Stanley and Emmett? Could bring in 3 and draft 3. Would still help to move Brodie if we could.
No, just didnt use Kueks spotDidnt we have a spare list spot not used in the MSD? Is that counted?
The Ultan of Swing... for free..?If NOD, Voss and Reidy all re-sign as expected it’s hard to see how we fit both Bolton and Baker on the list and have a decent presence in the draft tbh. Without trading out players anyway.
If our third best draft selection is kind of late I think that’s a good time to stop but I don’t think I’d be taking any less than three selections in any draft.
We can probably view one of the Irish guys as a free selection so we’d still be bringing four in - the turnover will be bigger next year with Fyfe and Walters renting imo.
Why? That’s 4 bites of the cherry that will be on the list for 2-3 years minimum. Ras was a top 10 pick and he’s 3 years in and barely impacting. How are 4 picks at our list age & stage going to impact compared to 2-3 plus trades or keeping older depth?Oh listen I’m 100% in agreement with you here.
We NEED to take 4 national draft picks this year.
Emmett and Stanley should both be cut.
Brodie just has be traded out. If Carlton are telling all those guys to look around, surely, surely we are saying the same to Brodie?
A deep draft like this you have to take advantage of. Even if it’s picks in the 40s or 50s.
Oh listen I’m 100% in agreement with you here.
We NEED to take 4 national draft picks this year.
Emmett and Stanley should both be cut.
Brodie just has be traded out. If Carlton are telling all those guys to look around, surely, surely we are saying the same to Brodie?
A deep draft like this you have to take advantage of. Even if it’s picks in the 40s or 50s.
Remember the rule (fact actually, over many years of hard data) that only 30% of drafted players play 50 games or more.Why? That’s 4 bites of the cherry that will be on the list for 2-3 years minimum. Ras was a top 10 pick and he’s 3 years in and barely impacting. How are 4 picks at our list age & stage going to impact compared to 2-3 plus trades or keeping older depth?
2 or 3 is fine.
If you want to know the importance of turning over list spots regularly (more than what most people on here because they get too emotionally attached to fringe players) just take a look back at what we did in the 2020 off season.
We delisted a heap that year and even re rookied some who became UFAs such as Schultz (infamously) and Banfield.
But it crucially freed up the list spots to roll the dice on a young tall forward at around 3:05 pm the day after the main draft, at pick 7 in the rookie draft.
He was a nobody back then that didn’t register on anyone’s radar that day bar the most extreme of draft nerds here on BF but 4 years later he might just be the most important player we have.
If we didn’t cut hard on the list in that 2020 off season we wouldn’t have Josh Treacy right now.
Remember the rule (fact actually, over many years of hard data) that only 30% of drafted players play 50 games or more.
If we draft 3, one will make it to 50 games and the others will be busts.
Thats the reality.
Draft 5, including rookie picks, we might get lucky and get two long term players.
The numbers just don’t lie and are the reason every club takes at least 4 or 5 new players in every draft & rookie draft, as an absolute minimum.
Picture this. You're in the WC footy department. Stay with me, stay with me now. And you know you need a PR win to settle in your new coach. You have a player on the hook, ready to go, he's committed but you think you can really energise your fan base by making it seem like he's genuinely a chance for both.
Then you name the coach and shortly after Baker officially nominates West Coast, saying that he feels supremely confident in the future of the club and the coach swung him to the Eagles - or in as few a words as your player can manage.
Suddenly it's King as Coach, Baker endorses the coach, WC steals Baker from Freo, haha suckers Freo, and it's done.
Or ….If it's true WC came hard for him I can only laugh. What a bunch of morons spending good capital on Liam Baker with where they are at. Absolutely bizarre. Like, it's kind of being missed but they are starting to delist kids they drafted when the rebuild started...
They need every pick they can get.
If it is true, yes. Knobel is a smidge concerning though. Got anything a little more soothingIs that better,Snuff and Apuchar?…..
It’s total listed AFL players, regardless of where they were drafted, as far as I know.Personally I think these numbers are false - Let’s look at our picks between 2016 and 2021 and who’ll get to 50 games
2016
Logue - Yes
Darcy - Yes
Cox - Yes
Ryan - Yes
2017
Brayshaw - Yes
Cerra - Yes
Dixon - No
Crowden - No
North - No
Meek - Yes (May have already?)
Switta - Yes
Jones - No
2018
Sturt - Probably (based off fitness only)
Valente - No
Schultz- Yes
Bewley - No
2019
Young - Yes
Serong - Yes
Henry - Yes
Frederick - Yes
2020
Chapman - Yes (Is he there yet?)
O’Driscoll - 50/50
Walker - Yes
Western - No
2021
Amiss - Yes
Erasmus - 50/50
Johnson - Probably
Benning - No
Reality is IMO 50 games isn’t that many but even if that’s all they play they’d still added useful depth for 3-4 years minimum (assuming it’s a good team).
I’d say a strike rate of 30% would be closer to the success rate of getting to 50 games outside the first round tbh.
I think he wants to be sure to make the right choice & is waiting who will be the coach of WCE before making a decision, apparently, he wrestled all year about staying or going.It's getting disrespectful frankly. Pull the offer.
Baker would be a good get for us but he would just be collecting a salary with Freo. His heart is at West Coast, can we rely on someone like that?I’m in the bring baker in camp. I think he’s an excellent addition to fix some of our weaknesses.
Like he did at Richmond?Baker would be a good get for us but he would just be collecting a salary with Freo. His heart is at West Coast, can we rely on someone like that?
One of Baker's attributes that I love the most is that he has that dawwwwg in him. Absolutely zero doubt in my mind that once he's at the club he'd be right next to Lukey Ryan at every scrap.Baker would be a good get for us but he would just be collecting a salary with Freo. His heart is at West Coast, can we rely on someone like that?
The guy who just got delisted from the crappiest crap team that ever crapped in crappy crapland?I'd consider Jermaine Jones for a pre-season train on spot and see how he goes, think he has some weapons.