List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

[Kane McGoodwin]

See I'd be trying to package up Luko and Moyle and Rosas. Even if it means F1 and ROB back to GC.

Moyle just re-signed, so no chance.

 

[Vader]

Maybe Alan Obst too?

Possibly, but again - it's a very long time ago! It certainly hasn't happened under the current list management regime.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Doesn’t solve Nicks being a ****wit

We seemed to survive him in 2023, somewhat

But with how terrible a lot of his decisions were this season it’s very hard to trust him right now, yeah

 

[George Kramer]

We seemed to survive him in 2023, somewhat

But with how terrible a lot of his decisions were this season it’s very hard to trust him right now, yeah

There were clear **** ups last year as well which impacted us on making the 8.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

its very simple

he coughs up goals he shouldn't

he provides zero attack

he is slow and cannot turn

he fumbles and puts others under pressure

yes he can mark but thats it

Alex that’s a very harsh critique - he isn’t that bad and in fact has shown a bit when played - he hardly coughs up goals, give me two examples of when his opponent has kicked a bag…

 

[BRL121]

Alex that’s a very harsh critique - he isn’t that bad and in fact has shown a bit when played - he hardly coughs up goals, give me two examples of when his opponent has kicked a bag…

Yes, he's fine. He is bad in two situations: defending a leading forward (and who isn't?), and kicking for goal (which can be improved). In the SANFL games I have seen, he looks best roaming around the ground, especially as a follower. In fact, I don't see him as just a key back, more of a true utility.

 

[Danger in Texas]

There were clear **** ups last year as well which impacted us on making the 8.

Yes, but we did generally perform better week-to-week

No losses to bloody Richmond, for instance

 

[BRL121]

Yes, but we did generally perform better week-to-week

No losses to bloody Richmond, for instance

What?

 

[Danger in Texas]

What?

Okay, we lost last year to Richmond when they weren’t garbage

 

[Mutineer]

Yes, he's fine. He is bad in two situations: defending a leading forward (and who isn't?), and kicking for goal (which can be improved). In the SANFL games I have seen, he looks best roaming around the ground, especially as a follower. In fact, I don't see him as just a key back, more of a true utility.

A treacle slow utility, body on body he suffices but on forwards that have height and speed on the lead he doesn't cut it.

 

[King Elvis]

Borlase being re-signed isn't an issue.
The 2 years bit is silly.

In isolation, they're all good signings, but...

Murray
Butts
Keane
Borlase

You'd assume we're only going to play 2 of them, right?

If so, Murray is first selected; question is whether Butts (yes for me) or Keane is second picked, which then leaves Keane/Butts as depth, and then Borlase as depth upon depth.

 

[crow2crow]

Yes, he's fine. He is bad in two situations: defending a leading forward (and who isn't?), and kicking for goal (which can be improved). In the SANFL games I have seen, he looks best roaming around the ground, especially as a follower. In fact, I don't see him as just a key back, more of a true utility.

and there is no role like this in AFL

 

[FR0GGY]

In isolation, they're all good signings, but...

Murray
Butts
Keane
Borlase

You'd assume we're only going to play 2 of them, right?

If so, Murray is first selected; question is whether Butts (yes for me) or Keane is second picked, which then leaves Keane/Butts as depth, and then Borlase as depth upon depth.

Murray off a knee and butts made from HD tissue paper though.

 

[Gtowncrow]

You know what else Geelong have had in the last 20 years?

Yep.
About 20% of the premierships.
About 30% of the grand finals
And about 50% of the prelims.
3 different Brownlow medalists.
A couple of Colman medalists.

And the best recruiter in the land. Stephen Wells.

 

[FR0GGY]

Not sure how accurate it is.

 

[Crow-eater]

List as it stands after today's announcements.



I believe all our re-signings are done. Which leaves us with the following permutations:

1) ANB + 3 draft picks + 1 Rookie pick.
2) ANB + Luko/Cumming + 3 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list
3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list*

*3 cannot happen as we need to take 3 picks in the draft, so either we're not getting all 3 targets, we're delisting a contracted player/Burgess isn't contracted, or we're going to do what I suggested yesterday. Upgrade Keane to the senior list (counts as one of 3 mandatory picks in the draft), and demote another contracted player to the rookie list.

In which case, 3 becomes

3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + Keane to senior list + 2 contracted players to rookie list.

 

[Crow_68]

Not sure how accurate it is.
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And so he should be.

 

[FR0GGY]

And so he should be.

Wouldn’t have an issue if Dawson was.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

List as it stands after today's announcements.

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I believe all our re-signings are done. Which leaves us with the following permutations:

1) ANB + 3 draft picks + 1 Rookie pick.
2) ANB + Luko/Cumming + 3 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list
3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + 1 contracted player to rookie list*

*3 cannot happen as we need to take 3 picks in the draft, so either we're not getting all 3 targets, we're delisting a contracted player/Burgess isn't contracted, or we're going to do what I suggested yesterday. Upgrade Keane to the senior list (counts as one of 3 mandatory picks in the draft), and demote another contracted player to the rookie list.

In which case, 3 becomes

3) ANB + Luko + Cumming + 2 draft picks + Keane to senior list + 2 contracted players to rookie list.

We have to make a minimum of three picks at the ND (#4, Welsh and one other). What I can see eventuating:

The remaining uncontracted players gone
Burgess gone
One of Smith/Schoenberg/Strachan to the rookie list - no live rookie picks
Leaves us space for three picks, ANB, Luko and Cumming

Rosas will be Essendon bound, I predict.

 

[Mutineer]

Tells you how difficult it's going to be to trade up or trade into this year's 1st round or even early 2nd round even with 2025 1st round picks included.

FUTURE PICKS UP FOR GRABS​

NORTH Melbourne is among the clubs open to putting its future first-round pick on the trade table to land another top pick in this year's draft as teams clamour for high end talent.

The strong regard for which recruiters hold the 2024 draft crop has been further exemplified by most clubs expressing they are open to using their future pick to buy into this year's first round.

The majority of clubs are open to either adding an extra first-round pick or attaining a first-round pick in this year's draft by using their future pick as a trade chip.

 

[jackster83]

Wouldn’t have an issue if Dawson was.

Laird on over $800k is ****ing embarrassing.

 

[FR0GGY]

Tells you how difficult it's going to be to trade up or trade into this year's 1st round or even early 2nd round even with 2025 1st round picks included.

FUTURE PICKS UP FOR GRABS​

NORTH Melbourne is among the clubs open to putting its future first-round pick on the trade table to land another top pick in this year's draft as teams clamour for high end talent.

The strong regard for which recruiters hold the 2024 draft crop has been further exemplified by most clubs expressing they are open to using their future pick to buy into this year's first round.

The majority of clubs are open to either adding an extra first-round pick or attaining a first-round pick in this year's draft by using their future pick as a trade chip.

Just makes us trading 25 for ANB look worse if that’s what we do.

 

[FR0GGY]

Laird on over $800k is ****ing embarrassing.

You got the whole list?

 

[jackster83]

You got the whole list?

Nope.

I know he's #54 on the list at $850k.

 

[FR0GGY]

Nope.

I know he's #54 on the list at $850k.

But it says Izak is 825k and our highest paid?