List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Probably close to 9pm.

Wowee that’s crazy if they’re trying to get younger folk to engage with AFL.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

The Swan, S.Mitchell et el draft was a bloody long time ago now.

Lachie Neale was ALSO pick #58, like Swanny, in 2011. Nick Larkey went #73 in 2016. There's still regular examples where top talents slip through.

It doesn't mean it's a guarantee, but it wasn't then either. But there's no evidence to suggest that drafting has gotten so airtight that no high end talents could slip through the cracks to a later pick.

 

[TradeDraft]

IF we don't get Tall I be almost sure club say they rate Smit and Steene as Potential KPF's

 

[manicpie]

I'd be curious to know why Kayle Gerreyn the bigger Tex Walker clone didn't go top 10. Scatch that, didn't go early because he's not a bigger Tex Walker clone.

 

[Jen2310]

IF we don't get Tall I be almost sure club say they rate Smit and Steene as Potential KPF's

we wouldnt be linked to talls and Leppa saying we would target talls if that was the case.
Those two are ruck/fwd

 

[TradeDraft]

we wouldnt be linked to talls and Leppa saying we would target talls if that was the case.
Those two are ruck/fwd

Hope to get at least 1 Tall

 

[manicpie]

Hope to get at least 1 Tall

I reckon we'll take 2 talls and Kennedy. If both west and polkinghorne are still there, the temptation will be too strong. I also think we might take 4 if a player we want is still there. AJ might be in trouble

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Hope to get at least 1 Tall

Chill Dave. We'll select at least one tall. Be surprised if it wasn't two.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

We'll select at least one tall. Be surprised if it wasn't two.

That's an irrational level of confidence in Hine's mindset.

 

[TradeDraft]

Chill Dave. We'll select at least one tall. Be surprised if it wasn't two.

Just not sure with our History at the Draft Table

 

[loki04]

Of course, nobody is expecting to get a Brownlow winner. But there’s no point in being so down on the hand we’ve been given either, it’s a deep draft and Hine is usually pretty good at finding later gems.

I'm not down I'm just being realistic and not expecting much until there's more evidence when they are listed players.

 

[TradeDraft]

Guess What I call Tall that is 195cm might be different then others who might say 190cm+ is a KPF

 

[Jen2310]

Just not sure with our History at the Draft Table

I reckon Leppa will have more say.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Just not sure with our History at the Draft Table

Leppa is involved now. Have faith.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

That's an irrational level of confidence in Hine's mindset.

Maybe I just see Leppa having more of an influence on our selections than others do..

 

[Couch Coach]

I don't get why some are down on our draft prospects and the clubs (Hine's ability)?
Our flag team had 9 players drafted from Pick 39 onwards and rookie drafts:

Murphy (39)
Frampton (84, trade)
Markov (50, DFA)
Mihocek (Rookie 22)
McCreery (44)
J Daicos (57)
Cox (Rookie 60)
Cameron (48, trade)
Ginnivan (Rookie 13)

 

[Johno9911]

Probably close to 9pm.

Thanks! I'm sure there will probably still be about 5 hours of waffle to wade through, I'm convinced these media panels are paid per word

 

[TradeDraft]

Thanks! I'm sure there will probably still be about 5 hours of waffle to wade through, I'm convinced these media panels are paid per word

Actually less Mucking around on Night 2

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Love to know what the current list spots available for all clubs after last night's draft. Anyone know?

 

[cakewalk06]

Well it’s Draft Day for Collingwood

Get your game face on, Dave. And those welcome threads at the ready!

 

[TradeDraft]

Get your game face on, Dave. And those welcome threads at the ready!

I will when Draft Coverage Starts bit early now

 

[swoop42]

I'd be backing in Hine well ahead of Leppitsch when it comes to U18 talent identification.

Leppitsch doesn't have a history in recruitment and is in his first year as our full time list manager.

 

[sr36]

For context.

Carlton traded a F1 for pick 14 from Hawthorn.

North should improve next season but given Melbourne in 14th, Gold Coast in 13th and St Kilda in 12th finished 8 games clear of North in 17th then I'm fairly confident they've just traded a future top 4 pick for 27/Whitlock.

He'd want to be bloody good.

This trade might start making a little more sense if they're resigned to losing LDU next year or are prepared to take the McKay approach and not go all out to keep him.

With future trading now set to be extended beyond 12 months they would have the option of accepting a compensation pick or matching and forcing a mega trade offer.

You're ignoring the second rounders going in opposite directions for each trade and in retrospect it's clear that Hawks undersold their pick.

They'll be able to get back into the first round with tigers F2 and their F2. Probably traded it down though. Not a calamity though.

However they may trade back in to grab another tall they rate. Ignore the draft pick number. It's not a standard draft.

Two talls you rate for F1 doesn't sound like a catastrophe to me. With talls you're almost better off going two you rate rather than 1 you rate highly which is what they'd be hoping for if they held the pick to use next year.

 

[Matt_352]

Guess What I call Tall that is 195cm might be different then others who might say 190cm+ is a KPF

I call proper kpp 194+.

Crossing everything for:

One of Sims, Gerryn, Nicholls
One of OFarell, Mraz, Dennis
Luke Kennedy

Bring on our draft day!

 

[sr36]

I'd be backing in Hine well ahead of Leppitsch when it comes to U18 talent identification.

Leppitsch doesn't have a history in recruitment and is in his first year as our full time list manager.

Yep. I'd say all Leppa has done is get Hine to adjust his criteria to be weighted more towards talls.