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Thought i'd see what was going on in the other clubs.
Amongst others.
Jordan Hams has a pain in the Butt.
Jarrod Curtaiin has a Daniel Knee.
Rory Sloane not looking good.
Wheetering Calf, sounds like grain fed beef.
McStay off his knee.
What's Dematta with his finger?
Ben's Shoulder is Hobbled.
Sebit is Kueked for the year, which is at least better than being Cucked for the year.
Dockers are worried about *****. Alright , COX then.
Issac probably isn't Coming to the first few games.
James TOG this year will be Blanck.
Will may not see the light of Day.
Lachie is Hunting for a round 1 start.
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Amongst others.
Jordan Hams has a pain in the Butt.
Jarrod Curtaiin has a Daniel Knee.
Rory Sloane not looking good.
Wheetering Calf, sounds like grain fed beef.
McStay off his knee.
What's Dematta with his finger?
Ben's Shoulder is Hobbled.
Sebit is Kueked for the year, which is at least better than being Cucked for the year.
Dockers are worried about *****. Alright , COX then.
Issac probably isn't Coming to the first few games.
James TOG this year will be Blanck.
Will may not see the light of Day.
Lachie is Hunting for a round 1 start.
AFL Injury List 2024: Latest news, updates after grand final | Sporting News Australia
All the injuries from every AFL club with estimated return dates and explanations of their issues
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Fab, please keep us informed once you finish up
Absolutely, i'll take a photo of the screen and it'll me something to do if the power goes off again.
Seriously....Do it.
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Thought i'd see what was going on in the other clubs.
Amongst others.
Jordan Hams has a pain in the Butt.
Jarrod Curtaiin has a Daniel Knee.
Rory Sloane not looking good.
Wheetering Calf, sounds like grain fed beef.
McStay off his knee.
What's Dematta with his finger?
Ben's Shoulder is Hobbled.
Sebit is Kueked for the year, which is at least better than being Cucked for the year.
Dockers are worried about utensils. Alright , COX then.
Issac probably isn't Coming to the first few games.
James TOG this year will be Blanck.
Will may not see the light of Day.
Lachie is Hunting for a round 1 start.
AFL Injury List 2024: Latest news, updates after grand final | Sporting News Australia
All the injuries from every AFL club with estimated return dates and explanations of their issues
Sounds like AI written foreplay.
"My groin is imminent"
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Good news with Clark training with the main group at least
Need us some more gazelle like dancing thru traffic on a break and hitting up blokes lace out on the lead
Missed his best
Was happy to trade him, had a shit run with injuries, attitude was not magnificent, but saw glimpses
Hopefully Ross has rocketed him and he sees pressure for his spot
Need us some more gazelle like dancing thru traffic on a break and hitting up blokes lace out on the lead
Missed his best
Was happy to trade him, had a shit run with injuries, attitude was not magnificent, but saw glimpses
Hopefully Ross has rocketed him and he sees pressure for his spot
OK, a very long read with pre and post Christmas preseasons for each player. Obviously the bolded is the post for each player
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1.Jack Higgins ā Not much different to last year, plying forward, not a great runner, gone are the days where he was the great new recruit. Still has the tricks but shiney new toys have surpassed him at training.
Post ā Has trimmed down and has played an active role in match sim, looking to get front and centre of the likes of King, Caminiti and Sharman. Probably R1
2.Marcus Windhager ā looks cut, running hard keeping up in the hard running drills just behind Wilson. Looks set for a big year, so far playing out of the midfield in whatever match sim they have been playing.
Post ā So match sim has been playing out of the mids more, less of a run with role but still do so. Has improved his upper body strength and running ability.
3.Zak Jones ā One of the standouts at training. Has been quick enthusiastic, hard at it every session. Accuracy (under no pressure like everyone else) has been excellent. Was devastated not to have played finals and having a bad interrupted season. Get him fit and he is like a new recruit.
Post ā Disappointingly has been hampered by leg injuries and a touch of concussion, set to be right by R1. Running hard and very switched on. Yelling at bj in a match sim because he wasnāt throwing it in quick enough. Competitive beast. Competition for R1
4.Lance Collard- Will take time, very raw and physically underdeveloped. Is a natural footballer and has plenty of raw talent, has missed a few training sessions from what I can see. Seems to be pretty happy and settled.
Post ā absolutely blitzed a match sim where he took a contested mark and missed, then took off with a four bounce effort just missing, then almost taking mark of the year, then outpointed Stocker one on one to kick truly from 45 on the angle. All in the space of about 7 minutes. Last match sim quiet until he bobs up out of nowhere and kicks a crummers goal. Think will get a chance this year. There are going to be some very unhappy WCE supporters.
5.Brad Crouch ā currently being managed.
Post ā joined in full training, full body contact match sim, in and under, knee heavily strapped so still being managed, should be Ok fo R1
6.Sebastian Ross ā looks the same as usual. Fit, hard runner, poor kick. Have a feeling his days are numbered, many more impressive so far this preseason. Not that he is disappointing, but he has reached his best and is trying to maintain it.
Post ā Same old Seb, gets the ball, does something good then kick one of his high helicopter kicks. Has been a great servant and will probably get the nob R1, but I am hoping we have the likes of Wilson Henry, Windy etc go past him this season.
7.Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera ā taller, more filled out, working off a half back flank (think he may take Sincās position as he rolls through the midfield more.) A beautiful user of the ball, can only get better for Naz.
Post ā coming of a half back, trying to get the ball in his hands as often as possible. Linking up with Hill and Henry to give us some fantastic run and gun out of defence. Certain R1 starter
8.Brad Hill ā very happy, hard running guy at training. Always having a laugh, getting around the younger indigenous guys, maintains his standards at training.
Post ā senior player, lots of talk revving up players, very loud, leads by example and is linking beautifully with the likes of Naz, Henry, Wood, etc. Does a fair bit of talking with Ross and the assistants. Coaching a possibility for Brad? Certain R1
9.Jack Steele ā looks a bit heavier than last year. Being managed
Post ā like Crouch, in full training, looks fit and raring to go, not missing a beat in match sim. Certain R1 starter
10.Mitch Owens ā filled out, being managed. A real specimen.
Post ā playing match sim, full training, having stints through the guts and up forward, looking better every time I see him. Certain R1
11.Hunter Clark ā has been impressive at Preseason. Hard running, looking fit, playing inside last training session at semi contact match sim. Hopefully he stays injury free, with the likes of Henry, Dow, Steele, Crouch, Windy, Sincs and Mitch and even Wilson running through the guts, may finally show his top 10 draft pick form and skill.
Post ā canāt catch a break (except for a bone) see above, pre Xmas had been quite impressive, going in for the hard ball and looking very good. Gets an errant elbow and he cracks and eye socket. Physically right for R1, but geez these head shots would be an effort mentally.
12.Max King ā managed. Taking uncontested marks two hands above his head.
Post ā in full training, looking like a force to be reckoned with. Kicked four in three quarters the other day. Certain R1
13.Ryan Byrnes ā another to impress. Works very hard at training, has looked very sharp, now has lots of competition. Like Jones canāt just dial it in wth the likes of Wilson, Pou, Dow, Henry etc now at the club.
Post ā Ronnie has a bunch of competition, mainly off a wing/hbf with the occasional through the guts. A Jones or Crouch injury could see him in the team, just outside in my view
14.Liam Stocker ā much fitter than last year. Tank improving, middle of the pack in the 400 metre repeats, not lagging out the back. training the way he plays.
Post ā has impressed of half back in match sim. Like Wilkie, calm and confident, rarely gets beaten. R1 for him
15.Paddy Dow ā good pickup. Excellent through the mids. Seems very balanced and his seniors experience really shows with his positioning. His disposal has been good which has been the knock on him (caveat, it has all been non contact, little pressure). Certain first 22 starter in my view.
Post ā a leg injury has derailed his preseason, not back at full training, maybe next week. Prior to that was a certain starter. Will get his chance once fit.
16.Dan Butler ā managed
Post ā starting training next week, prefer others R1. Wont be fit enough
17.Isaac Keeler. Nice size, still to fill out, glides about the field, highly skilled, nice disposal. I would be disappointed if he is being trialled as a backman. He is an out an out ruckman in my opinion. Maybe like Sharman, being developed down back but not a permanent position.
Post ā is being developed as a backman and has started to show signs. Gets to the fall of the ball and can use his leap to spoil. Has a way to go in development but has such skills with ball in hand. A year at Sandy and lets see
18r.Jack Hayes ā Managed. Hardly an injury before coming to the Saints. We have cursed the poor bloke. Forgotten man who could be a real X factor utility.
Post ā looks fit, running hard, starting training next week. Get him fir, playing at Sandy and we could utilize him in the back half of the year when we have injuries or managing people.
19.Rowan Marshall ā absolute class. Should have been AA ruckman. Really is a cut above all our other rucks. Rolled an ankle last session before Christmas. Didnāt look too bad.
Post ā our most important player. Tom Campbell is a good backup and Heath a way to develop. If he goes down, we are real skinny (hence it would be good to have Jack Hayes up and about.) R1
20.Dougal Howard ā Doug being Doug. Hasnāt pulled any arms out of sockets so thatās a bonus.
Post ā Working well with Wilks, Battle,Web, and Stocker. Will be R1
21.Zaine Cordy ā his tank is still terrible, still being played down back.
Post ā has been doen back and been going ok, think it is out of him and Howard for the key back and I would give the nod to Howard
22.Darcy Wilson ā elite runner, again last session, running at the front of the fastest group hardly blowing. Has been iffy with disposal during drills, but during match sim ā Wow, his skills in close and disposal was a thing to see. We have a beauty.
Post ā his match sim has been tidy more than outstanding, being directed to position a lot, which is only natural, he is 18 and getting used to the structure, zones and playing process. I reckon we have an absolute beauty in Wilson but would not rush him into R1 given our list health. But he will be in the seniors this season I predict.
23.Liam Henry ā my BOG for pre season training. Is quick very enthusiastic, and trains like itās the last time he will ever do it. If he plays as he has trained, we are in for a treat. Seems to have fit in really well, like Brad Hill, always a smile on his face, looks like he is well liked by the playing group and coaches. Is Freo really that bad? Must have hated it there. Disposal has been fine. Early sessions it looked a bit rusty, but as the training has gone on it has gotten sharper and sharper (with the usual caveat about no pressure)
Post ā his linking up with Naz, and Hill is something to see. Played out of the middle for a time in match sim and looked good, then moved to a flank and was getting oodles of space to be the link up coming out of defence through the mids. Certain R1
24.Angus Hastie ā got a bit to do to fill out, but is very clean with the ball in hand, and positions nicely in match sim type drills.
Post ā a development year for Angus. Very skillful and has good game sense. A touch of physical development required.
25.Mattaes Phillipou ā only a couple of weeks older than Wilson. Collard, Hastie and Shoey but has played 24 senior games. His core looks stronger and he is only just behind Henry as the BOG for preseason. Seems his pantsing in the final is burning in his guts. Has a Roo like look about him re core strength.
Post ā running through the mids at match sim. Taller, fitter through the core, and ready to take the next step. As old as our 2023 recruits, but a preseason ahead. R! certain
26.Josh Battle ā every time I see him he looks better down back. Elite runner and huge tank. Our BOG in the finals and will take a very good backman to displace him.
Post ā hasnāt been much said about Josh, but looks very assured and settled down back. The backline works so efficiently with Doug, Wilks, Web and Stocker. Has really looked balance in match sim R1 certainty.
27.Arie Schoenmaker - havenāt seen too much of him but what I have I like. Supersonic boot, big arse and tree trunk legs, a steal at #62.
Post ā ahh rumours, scuttlebutt, subterfuge after Xmas. The washup is that he is leaner, quicker and running as hard as anyone in defence. A little outplayed in match sim, but there is no problems with his fitness or commitment. And that boot FMD it goes miles.A good year in development at Sandy
28.Tim Membrey ā nice to see Tim happy, looking fit, and leading well. Has been one of the good news story of preseason. Looked sharp in match sim, looked like he was enjoying himself.
Post ā looks fit and happy. Back to his best and will compliment King and Sharman/Caminiti/ Higgins/ Collard. Should be a R1 starter
29.Jimmy Webster ā nothing much to report. Doing his job and will probably start in the 22.
Post ā relaxed and gelling with the statistically best backline from 2023. R1
30.Matt Allison ā I wish him well, but donāt think he will make it. Just not impactful at training when he needs to be. Does the occasional good thing, just seems to get beaten, a bit too much. Hope I am wrong.
Post ā tries hard, but I still canāt see it. Reckon he will be a great VFL player, just doesnāt get it enough.
31.James Van Es ā managed. Running very strongly final session. Has a great filled out body. Told me he was increasing loads.
Post ā well loads became non existent. Donāt know when he returns.
32.Mason Wood ā managed. Running strongly. Recovering from shoulder surgery.
Post ā some load management concerns, however is in full training and looking as good as ever on a wing. Very fit and can run all day.
33.Ben Paton ā not being played down back, more like a half back flanker, has done what he needs to do this preseason without standing out. Could come under pressure to be first 22.
Post ā off a wing and through the gits in match sim. I donāt know what the future holds for Ben TBH.
34.Hugo Garcia ā mainly managed. Joined in for a few drill today then ran. A bit small in my view.
Post ā has stepped up in a big way after Xmas. Coaches love him and as Barrels said whatever it is, he has got it. May get a chance this season however if not, I can see him in seniors regularly from 2025 onwards
35.Jack Sinclair ā what do we expect from Sincās except the best. He has transitioned by the looks to mid mainly. Blew himself up in the first run last session, probably on purpose. Stayed at the back in the second run and encouraged Hotton.
Post ā had some minor calf issue and is being managed should be ok for R1
36.Riley Bonner ā another half back flanker, surprised he was delisted. Nice size, footy smarts, nice disposal. Looks ready made for seniors.
Post ā not doing himself any harm in his training, match sim and attitude. Settled in straight away and as said above looks ready made for seniors. Knock apparently is his two way running. That will decide when Ross selects him. I cant fit him in at the moment.
38.Tom Campbell ā there for backup for Roh. But boy does he work at training. Gets around the group. No accident he got clubman of the year in 2023.
Post ā great with the kids, knows his role, happy to play it and be a club man. I can see coaching for Tom down the track.
39.Olli Hotton ā 2023 was an interrupted year with a back injury. Working his way into the drills and match sim. Needs to work on his tank a bit. Had him working with the main runners (Willson, Sincs, Battle, etc). Earmarked for mid work but a bit of a way off.
Post - Has come on quire a bit. Like most inside mids, he doesnāt get noticed because he is under the pack, Put him, Stocker, Sincs, and GOAT in a picture, you would think they were quads. They all look so much like brothers. He has been much better since Xmas and has been ok in the match sim. A sneaky chance at a mid spot during this year.
41b.Angus McLennan ā canāt see it with this kid. Average size, average skills, average decision making, average runner.
Post ā still canāt see it, but other trackwatcher can, so I am happy to be wrong. If I am it means we have another excellent player. Happy with that. I will say he is a vey good mark.
43r.Cooper Sharman ā very impressive this preseason with everything he does. Bigger tank, very nice positioning up forward outworking his opponent in match sim. Our best in the final up forward. A keeper.
Post ā Coops seems to be a bit ahead of Hammer. I have like what I have seen with Cooper this preseason. A hard forward line to fit into at the moment, however if his final is taken into account he may well be an early starter
44.Callum Wilkie ā Wilks does what Wilks does. Always a polished performer.
Post ā never beaten, never flustered. Beats me how he wasnāt picked up before 24 years of age.R1
45b.Liam O'Connell ā nice size, needs some gym work. Works hard. Very early days for this Irish kid.
Post ā full on development year. Doesnāt have a problem with the shape of the ball. I get him and Hastie mixed up, but suffice to say, that is a good thing, as Hastie has excellent skills. A year at Sandy
47.rAnthony Caminiti ā Managed, has a couple of issues. Seems to have a bit more definition. Donāt know where the backman stuff has come from, all he has done is run laps.
Post ā maybe some second year blues for Hammer, may be a Coops second year where he develops down back and crafts his game more at Sandy, with the occasional appearance.
Donāt take the above as gospel or my likely team, they may be 15 or 25 I have as R1, it is just observations and my opinion only.
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1.Jack Higgins ā Not much different to last year, plying forward, not a great runner, gone are the days where he was the great new recruit. Still has the tricks but shiney new toys have surpassed him at training.
Post ā Has trimmed down and has played an active role in match sim, looking to get front and centre of the likes of King, Caminiti and Sharman. Probably R1
2.Marcus Windhager ā looks cut, running hard keeping up in the hard running drills just behind Wilson. Looks set for a big year, so far playing out of the midfield in whatever match sim they have been playing.
Post ā So match sim has been playing out of the mids more, less of a run with role but still do so. Has improved his upper body strength and running ability.
3.Zak Jones ā One of the standouts at training. Has been quick enthusiastic, hard at it every session. Accuracy (under no pressure like everyone else) has been excellent. Was devastated not to have played finals and having a bad interrupted season. Get him fit and he is like a new recruit.
Post ā Disappointingly has been hampered by leg injuries and a touch of concussion, set to be right by R1. Running hard and very switched on. Yelling at bj in a match sim because he wasnāt throwing it in quick enough. Competitive beast. Competition for R1
4.Lance Collard- Will take time, very raw and physically underdeveloped. Is a natural footballer and has plenty of raw talent, has missed a few training sessions from what I can see. Seems to be pretty happy and settled.
Post ā absolutely blitzed a match sim where he took a contested mark and missed, then took off with a four bounce effort just missing, then almost taking mark of the year, then outpointed Stocker one on one to kick truly from 45 on the angle. All in the space of about 7 minutes. Last match sim quiet until he bobs up out of nowhere and kicks a crummers goal. Think will get a chance this year. There are going to be some very unhappy WCE supporters.
5.Brad Crouch ā currently being managed.
Post ā joined in full training, full body contact match sim, in and under, knee heavily strapped so still being managed, should be Ok fo R1
6.Sebastian Ross ā looks the same as usual. Fit, hard runner, poor kick. Have a feeling his days are numbered, many more impressive so far this preseason. Not that he is disappointing, but he has reached his best and is trying to maintain it.
Post ā Same old Seb, gets the ball, does something good then kick one of his high helicopter kicks. Has been a great servant and will probably get the nob R1, but I am hoping we have the likes of Wilson Henry, Windy etc go past him this season.
7.Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera ā taller, more filled out, working off a half back flank (think he may take Sincās position as he rolls through the midfield more.) A beautiful user of the ball, can only get better for Naz.
Post ā coming of a half back, trying to get the ball in his hands as often as possible. Linking up with Hill and Henry to give us some fantastic run and gun out of defence. Certain R1 starter
8.Brad Hill ā very happy, hard running guy at training. Always having a laugh, getting around the younger indigenous guys, maintains his standards at training.
Post ā senior player, lots of talk revving up players, very loud, leads by example and is linking beautifully with the likes of Naz, Henry, Wood, etc. Does a fair bit of talking with Ross and the assistants. Coaching a possibility for Brad? Certain R1
9.Jack Steele ā looks a bit heavier than last year. Being managed
Post ā like Crouch, in full training, looks fit and raring to go, not missing a beat in match sim. Certain R1 starter
10.Mitch Owens ā filled out, being managed. A real specimen.
Post ā playing match sim, full training, having stints through the guts and up forward, looking better every time I see him. Certain R1
11.Hunter Clark ā has been impressive at Preseason. Hard running, looking fit, playing inside last training session at semi contact match sim. Hopefully he stays injury free, with the likes of Henry, Dow, Steele, Crouch, Windy, Sincs and Mitch and even Wilson running through the guts, may finally show his top 10 draft pick form and skill.
Post ā canāt catch a break (except for a bone) see above, pre Xmas had been quite impressive, going in for the hard ball and looking very good. Gets an errant elbow and he cracks and eye socket. Physically right for R1, but geez these head shots would be an effort mentally.
12.Max King ā managed. Taking uncontested marks two hands above his head.
Post ā in full training, looking like a force to be reckoned with. Kicked four in three quarters the other day. Certain R1
13.Ryan Byrnes ā another to impress. Works very hard at training, has looked very sharp, now has lots of competition. Like Jones canāt just dial it in wth the likes of Wilson, Pou, Dow, Henry etc now at the club.
Post ā Ronnie has a bunch of competition, mainly off a wing/hbf with the occasional through the guts. A Jones or Crouch injury could see him in the team, just outside in my view
14.Liam Stocker ā much fitter than last year. Tank improving, middle of the pack in the 400 metre repeats, not lagging out the back. training the way he plays.
Post ā has impressed of half back in match sim. Like Wilkie, calm and confident, rarely gets beaten. R1 for him
15.Paddy Dow ā good pickup. Excellent through the mids. Seems very balanced and his seniors experience really shows with his positioning. His disposal has been good which has been the knock on him (caveat, it has all been non contact, little pressure). Certain first 22 starter in my view.
Post ā a leg injury has derailed his preseason, not back at full training, maybe next week. Prior to that was a certain starter. Will get his chance once fit.
16.Dan Butler ā managed
Post ā starting training next week, prefer others R1. Wont be fit enough
17.Isaac Keeler. Nice size, still to fill out, glides about the field, highly skilled, nice disposal. I would be disappointed if he is being trialled as a backman. He is an out an out ruckman in my opinion. Maybe like Sharman, being developed down back but not a permanent position.
Post ā is being developed as a backman and has started to show signs. Gets to the fall of the ball and can use his leap to spoil. Has a way to go in development but has such skills with ball in hand. A year at Sandy and lets see
18r.Jack Hayes ā Managed. Hardly an injury before coming to the Saints. We have cursed the poor bloke. Forgotten man who could be a real X factor utility.
Post ā looks fit, running hard, starting training next week. Get him fir, playing at Sandy and we could utilize him in the back half of the year when we have injuries or managing people.
19.Rowan Marshall ā absolute class. Should have been AA ruckman. Really is a cut above all our other rucks. Rolled an ankle last session before Christmas. Didnāt look too bad.
Post ā our most important player. Tom Campbell is a good backup and Heath a way to develop. If he goes down, we are real skinny (hence it would be good to have Jack Hayes up and about.) R1
20.Dougal Howard ā Doug being Doug. Hasnāt pulled any arms out of sockets so thatās a bonus.
Post ā Working well with Wilks, Battle,Web, and Stocker. Will be R1
21.Zaine Cordy ā his tank is still terrible, still being played down back.
Post ā has been doen back and been going ok, think it is out of him and Howard for the key back and I would give the nod to Howard
22.Darcy Wilson ā elite runner, again last session, running at the front of the fastest group hardly blowing. Has been iffy with disposal during drills, but during match sim ā Wow, his skills in close and disposal was a thing to see. We have a beauty.
Post ā his match sim has been tidy more than outstanding, being directed to position a lot, which is only natural, he is 18 and getting used to the structure, zones and playing process. I reckon we have an absolute beauty in Wilson but would not rush him into R1 given our list health. But he will be in the seniors this season I predict.
23.Liam Henry ā my BOG for pre season training. Is quick very enthusiastic, and trains like itās the last time he will ever do it. If he plays as he has trained, we are in for a treat. Seems to have fit in really well, like Brad Hill, always a smile on his face, looks like he is well liked by the playing group and coaches. Is Freo really that bad? Must have hated it there. Disposal has been fine. Early sessions it looked a bit rusty, but as the training has gone on it has gotten sharper and sharper (with the usual caveat about no pressure)
Post ā his linking up with Naz, and Hill is something to see. Played out of the middle for a time in match sim and looked good, then moved to a flank and was getting oodles of space to be the link up coming out of defence through the mids. Certain R1
24.Angus Hastie ā got a bit to do to fill out, but is very clean with the ball in hand, and positions nicely in match sim type drills.
Post ā a development year for Angus. Very skillful and has good game sense. A touch of physical development required.
25.Mattaes Phillipou ā only a couple of weeks older than Wilson. Collard, Hastie and Shoey but has played 24 senior games. His core looks stronger and he is only just behind Henry as the BOG for preseason. Seems his pantsing in the final is burning in his guts. Has a Roo like look about him re core strength.
Post ā running through the mids at match sim. Taller, fitter through the core, and ready to take the next step. As old as our 2023 recruits, but a preseason ahead. R! certain
26.Josh Battle ā every time I see him he looks better down back. Elite runner and huge tank. Our BOG in the finals and will take a very good backman to displace him.
Post ā hasnāt been much said about Josh, but looks very assured and settled down back. The backline works so efficiently with Doug, Wilks, Web and Stocker. Has really looked balance in match sim R1 certainty.
27.Arie Schoenmaker - havenāt seen too much of him but what I have I like. Supersonic boot, big arse and tree trunk legs, a steal at #62.
Post ā ahh rumours, scuttlebutt, subterfuge after Xmas. The washup is that he is leaner, quicker and running as hard as anyone in defence. A little outplayed in match sim, but there is no problems with his fitness or commitment. And that boot FMD it goes miles.A good year in development at Sandy
28.Tim Membrey ā nice to see Tim happy, looking fit, and leading well. Has been one of the good news story of preseason. Looked sharp in match sim, looked like he was enjoying himself.
Post ā looks fit and happy. Back to his best and will compliment King and Sharman/Caminiti/ Higgins/ Collard. Should be a R1 starter
29.Jimmy Webster ā nothing much to report. Doing his job and will probably start in the 22.
Post ā relaxed and gelling with the statistically best backline from 2023. R1
30.Matt Allison ā I wish him well, but donāt think he will make it. Just not impactful at training when he needs to be. Does the occasional good thing, just seems to get beaten, a bit too much. Hope I am wrong.
Post ā tries hard, but I still canāt see it. Reckon he will be a great VFL player, just doesnāt get it enough.
31.James Van Es ā managed. Running very strongly final session. Has a great filled out body. Told me he was increasing loads.
Post ā well loads became non existent. Donāt know when he returns.
32.Mason Wood ā managed. Running strongly. Recovering from shoulder surgery.
Post ā some load management concerns, however is in full training and looking as good as ever on a wing. Very fit and can run all day.
33.Ben Paton ā not being played down back, more like a half back flanker, has done what he needs to do this preseason without standing out. Could come under pressure to be first 22.
Post ā off a wing and through the gits in match sim. I donāt know what the future holds for Ben TBH.
34.Hugo Garcia ā mainly managed. Joined in for a few drill today then ran. A bit small in my view.
Post ā has stepped up in a big way after Xmas. Coaches love him and as Barrels said whatever it is, he has got it. May get a chance this season however if not, I can see him in seniors regularly from 2025 onwards
35.Jack Sinclair ā what do we expect from Sincās except the best. He has transitioned by the looks to mid mainly. Blew himself up in the first run last session, probably on purpose. Stayed at the back in the second run and encouraged Hotton.
Post ā had some minor calf issue and is being managed should be ok for R1
36.Riley Bonner ā another half back flanker, surprised he was delisted. Nice size, footy smarts, nice disposal. Looks ready made for seniors.
Post ā not doing himself any harm in his training, match sim and attitude. Settled in straight away and as said above looks ready made for seniors. Knock apparently is his two way running. That will decide when Ross selects him. I cant fit him in at the moment.
38.Tom Campbell ā there for backup for Roh. But boy does he work at training. Gets around the group. No accident he got clubman of the year in 2023.
Post ā great with the kids, knows his role, happy to play it and be a club man. I can see coaching for Tom down the track.
39.Olli Hotton ā 2023 was an interrupted year with a back injury. Working his way into the drills and match sim. Needs to work on his tank a bit. Had him working with the main runners (Willson, Sincs, Battle, etc). Earmarked for mid work but a bit of a way off.
Post - Has come on quire a bit. Like most inside mids, he doesnāt get noticed because he is under the pack, Put him, Stocker, Sincs, and GOAT in a picture, you would think they were quads. They all look so much like brothers. He has been much better since Xmas and has been ok in the match sim. A sneaky chance at a mid spot during this year.
41b.Angus McLennan ā canāt see it with this kid. Average size, average skills, average decision making, average runner.
Post ā still canāt see it, but other trackwatcher can, so I am happy to be wrong. If I am it means we have another excellent player. Happy with that. I will say he is a vey good mark.
43r.Cooper Sharman ā very impressive this preseason with everything he does. Bigger tank, very nice positioning up forward outworking his opponent in match sim. Our best in the final up forward. A keeper.
Post ā Coops seems to be a bit ahead of Hammer. I have like what I have seen with Cooper this preseason. A hard forward line to fit into at the moment, however if his final is taken into account he may well be an early starter
44.Callum Wilkie ā Wilks does what Wilks does. Always a polished performer.
Post ā never beaten, never flustered. Beats me how he wasnāt picked up before 24 years of age.R1
45b.Liam O'Connell ā nice size, needs some gym work. Works hard. Very early days for this Irish kid.
Post ā full on development year. Doesnāt have a problem with the shape of the ball. I get him and Hastie mixed up, but suffice to say, that is a good thing, as Hastie has excellent skills. A year at Sandy
47.rAnthony Caminiti ā Managed, has a couple of issues. Seems to have a bit more definition. Donāt know where the backman stuff has come from, all he has done is run laps.
Post ā maybe some second year blues for Hammer, may be a Coops second year where he develops down back and crafts his game more at Sandy, with the occasional appearance.
Donāt take the above as gospel or my likely team, they may be 15 or 25 I have as R1, it is just observations and my opinion only.
Tend to agree with most, JB. Some more to add.
Paton - Injured for the first half of the season, I still struggle to see where he fits long term. IMO best as a lockdown small defender.
Caminiti - The backup ruck position may be a reason to select him over Sharman, but it seems Owens is doing the duties. VFL would be a good place to learn some forward craft more than "see ball get ball".
Hotton - A sneaky for Butler's spot until he's ready. Played as a forward-mid in VFL last year.
Stocker, Higgins, Clark - Clearly some time focusing on the right areas of fitness has put them in good stead for some career best form.
Membrey, Battle, Webster - We desperately need these guys mature bodies and physicality in an increasingly younger team.
There are a hell of a lot of players in the 15-26 player range. Going to make selection very difficult.
Paton - Injured for the first half of the season, I still struggle to see where he fits long term. IMO best as a lockdown small defender.
Caminiti - The backup ruck position may be a reason to select him over Sharman, but it seems Owens is doing the duties. VFL would be a good place to learn some forward craft more than "see ball get ball".
Hotton - A sneaky for Butler's spot until he's ready. Played as a forward-mid in VFL last year.
Stocker, Higgins, Clark - Clearly some time focusing on the right areas of fitness has put them in good stead for some career best form.
Membrey, Battle, Webster - We desperately need these guys mature bodies and physicality in an increasingly younger team.
There are a hell of a lot of players in the 15-26 player range. Going to make selection very difficult.
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Surely Sharman has earned a decent run at cementing a spot in the best 22?
His training/ressies form has always been middling.
But has almost always delivered when brought into the big league.
He was incredible against the tide at the pointy end of the season v the giants.
One of the very few blokes on the park that day for us that looked like he belonged in that pressure cooker.
His training/ressies form has always been middling.
But has almost always delivered when brought into the big league.
He was incredible against the tide at the pointy end of the season v the giants.
One of the very few blokes on the park that day for us that looked like he belonged in that pressure cooker.
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saintmike65.........I'm with you there !!!!!!!Bloody hell I hope thereās no more short story sequelās comingā¦
I suspect that it will be worse....far far worse!
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Agree with that- looks made for finals
Heās also a moments player. X factor , can take a mark and most importantly kick bloody straight when no one else can.
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I have a feeling Coops will get a good run at it this year. He kicks goals.
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Not liking the negative Hammer vibes, hope he's just been quietly building other areas of his game as he became a quick favourite last year
Great post. Thanks for the effort. Great to see we are finally getting excited about Henry. For me, St Kilda's X factor this year is Henry, Hill, NAS, Phillipou and Wood. If those guys click like we think they can it would be the difference between 7-14 and 1-6.
Interesting note on Jones. I watched a lot of training in 2021 and he was exactly the same....really aggressive trainer. I thought he was in for a huge year. I hope he can carry some momentum this year and stay injury free.
