Training 2024 Preseason training reports and discussion

[Dalions]

I'd love to see us revert to 3 tall forwards and have it work. It will all boil down to forward pressure, and hopefully that is the acid being put on the 3 of them at training.

Their intensity or otherwise at their end of the ground will have a massive knock-on effect all over the ground, as we found with Gunston last year.

I don’t think I mentioned it in my report last week but Dizzy did appear to spend a bit of time training with the forwards in that particular session.

 

[Elixuh]

Doedee not missing much footy is a nice surprise. Presume that means April or thereabouts.

 

[Grasshopper17]

I don’t think I mentioned it in my report last week but Dizzy did appear to spend a bit of time training with the forwards in that particular session.

Perhaps he is being used as the pace car. "You blokes are all more talented than this guy, but we know what he'll bring and if you don't go past him in all facets of your game, we'll pick him."

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Perhaps he is being used as the pace car. "You blokes are all more talented than this guy, but we know what he'll bring and if you don't go past him in all facets of your game, we'll pick him."

Or maybe it’s reverse psychology for the opposition when we decide to play Andrews and Gardiner forward while Daniher and Hipwood down back

 

[martinson]

I can't see Dizz being anything other than a tough uncompromising backman but maybe now that he's able to get a full pre season in the thinking is training with the forwards could sharpen him up a bit.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Or maybe it’s reverse psychology for the opposition when we decide to play Andrews and Gardiner forward while Daniher and Hipwood down back

I mean where there's smoke there's fire right? Maybe it's fully legit, maybe the coaching staff took a look at the Grand Final, took a look at Ben King's job on Andrews, and have decided "yep, the game is going this way, we need a defensive key forward". Which I did address here some time ago. It's possible they are grooming Gardiner to play on the likes of Jake Lever, Tom Stewart, Jacob Weitering and Darcy Moore.

And this idea was floated on this very forum a couple of months ago. I think it's more than Mighty Lions from the club who's been reading BigFooty lately. Give mpal6 some credit!

 

[Jim Stynes11]

56 clearances, or 8% of total clearances all year, winning 16. Small enough sample size, but even if he had won 2 or 3 less would still be around the 25% mark

For context, Lyons won 10/75 (13%) Berry won 9/44 (20.5%), Bailey 24/159 (15.1%)

Guessing that Rayner centre clearance stat was from a small sample size. He seemed to often go into 1 or 2 centre bounces at the start of quarters along with our other 2 best clearance winners

Not to say he wouldn't be a gun mid with clearance but I don't think seeing that stat really changes anything

 

[Section 5]

Regarding center clearances won, there has been quite a change from 3 years ago.
For season 2024 Zorko's numbers likely to decrease or stay the same.
Rayner, McCluggage & Bailey's numbers likely to rise at least until Wills return.
Hopefully Dunkley's numbers can increase in his second year as a Lion.
Player 2023 center clearances rankings: 1 Neale, 21 Dunkley.

Player	2021	2022	2023
Lyons	51	53	10 (10 games 8 as sub)
Zorko	45	19	16
Neale	41 (17 games)	89	89
Bailey	28	15	18
McCluggage	23	35	30
Rayner	DNP	22	16
Dunkley	-	-	49
Ashcroft	-	-	17 (18 games)

 

[T Rick]

I don’t think I mentioned it in my report last week but Dizzy did appear to spend a bit of time training with the forwards in that particular session.

Just can't visualise Dizzy playing forward for some reason...

 

[Mighty Lions]

Just can't visualise Dizzy playing forward for some reason...

Not going to happen...fake news.

 

[Dalions]

Not going to happen...fake news.

Has preseason scuttlebutt become news?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Sounds like Dev is in doubt for round 0

Might shuffle things around like Berry into Devs role, Wilmot wing, Prior down back

 

[martinson]

Tunstill never gets a mention.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was able to break into the team before too long.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Tunstill never gets a mention.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was able to break into the team before too long.

He's clearly next cab off the rank but it's hard given he'd likely be played out of position if he came in and be in a similar spot as Dev has been for the past few years

 

[Section 5]

Sounds like Dev is in doubt for round 0

Might shuffle things around like Berry into Devs role, Wilmot wing, Prior down back

In my opinion Dev was one player that had to retain his form and have a good preseason to hold his spot for round 1.
However, he looks very trim compared to last year. Likely doing lots of running.
Dev most likely missing gym work on anything that puts too much strain on his wrist.
For me playing round one is not going to harm his chances of getting back into the side.
He just needs to improve from last year and get more of the footy and do a bit more with, it when he makes the side.

He looks fit, so still a chance for round 1. Two images i took on Monday.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

I guess he's really self-concious of his nipples LMFAO.

 

[SizeMatters]

Still looks like a body of a fresh faced draftee. Hopefully it’s all smoke and mirrors

 

[martinson]

He's clearly next cab off the rank but it's hard given he'd likely be played out of position if he came in and be in a similar spot as Dev has been for the past few years

I know they rate him as a strong long term prospect. Inside mid. The right build and strong below his torso.

He could go past Dev but we need to see him improve on what the supporters have seen so far.

 

[SizeMatters]

i've never seen a fringe player so hyped on social and traditional media than Dev. He farts and it makes front page of The West Australian. bizarre.

 

[Scubaveg]

i've never seen a fringe player so hyped on social and traditional media than Dev. He farts and it makes front page of The West Australian. bizarre.

You read the west Australian?


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Grasshopper17]

Quality chat with Danny Daly, Sam Edmund and Kane Cornes on SEN this morning. Adds a bit of colour to the training reports we've seen here, as well as some chat about Will Ashcroft, Tom Doedee

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Tom Doedee

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

228.8

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.3

2star

MG

228.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.4

4star

and Nicole Duncan.

 

[SizeMatters]

You read the west Australian?


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

I read a lot of media. It’s good to stay on top of topical issues in my job.

 

[Kwickhatch]

I read a lot of media. It’s good to stay on top of topical issues in my job.

 

[Berrygood]

Sounds like Dev is in doubt for round 0

Might shuffle things around like Berry into Devs role, Wilmot wing, Prior down back

I wouldn't be discounting Lyons. He looks fit in the limited pics ive seen. If his body is right and he's running freely he could feature early in the season. Tunstill also a chance I'd hope. I would have expected Devs role to be mid/def fwd this year, not mid/wing. Wing doesn't suit him at all. With Berry, Fletcher, Clugg at times and Wilmot even Kiddy rotating thru the wing while not in the backs, I think wing is pretty well covered.

 

[Berrygood]

I can't see Dizz being anything other than a tough uncompromising backman but maybe now that he's able to get a full pre season in the thinking is training with the forwards could sharpen him up a bit.

Exactly what I was thinking.