2024 (Tenacious) Annual Carlton Board Phantom Draft

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https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/Father-son-bidding-system.pdf


Pick
Club
Player (click on player below, will take you to post)Poster
1RichmondJagga SmithBletch
2Brisbane *Levi AshcroftSheephead
3RichmondSam LalorBletch
4CarltonHarvey LangfordSoapy V
5AdelaideSid DraperGoBlues!
6MelbourneFinn O’SullivanBlugazi
7North MelbourneAlix TauruBlue and Silver
8Gold Coast *Leo Lombard
9St KildaJosh Smillie
10St KildaXavier Lyndsay
11MelbourneMurphy ReidBlugazi
12Essendon *Issac KakoTENACIOUS
13RichmondTobie TravagliaBletch
14RichmondTaj HottonBletch
15West CoastJoe BerryTerryWallet
16Port AdelaideLuke TrainorPablito
17FremantleBo AllanWalshistheGOAT
18Greater Western SydneyCooper Hynesbradfisher14
19Greater Western SydneyOli Hannafordbradfisher14
20Brisbane *Sam Marshall
21Western BulldogsHarrison OliverCoona Blues
22North MelbourneJobe ShanahanBlue and Silver
23SydneyHarry ArmstongWickzki
24RichmondJack WhitlockBletch
25Greater Western SydneyAlex Dodsonbradfisher14
26SydneyJesse DattoliWickzki
27RichmondJonty FaullBletch
28RichmondJasper AlgarBletch
Round 2
29Western BulldogsJames BarratCoona Blues
30EssendonChristian MoraesTENACIOUS
31West CoastHamish DaviesTerryWallet
32Port AdelaideAngus ClarkePablito
33FremantleZak JohnsonWalshistheGOAT
34St KildaTom Gross
35HawthornHarry Charleston
36West Coast *Malaki ChampionTerryWallet
37Western BulldogsJack OughCoona Blues
38Carlton *Soapy V
39Port AdelaidePablito
40Greater Western Sydneybradfisher14
41SydneyWickzki
42Geelongferrisb
43EssendonTENACIOUS
44St KildaNinja Worrier
45Western BulldogsCoona Blues
46Port AdelaidePablito
47CollingwoodBamboo Harvester
48EssendonTENACIOUS
49EssendonTENACIOUS
50CollingwoodBamboo Harvester
51Greater Western Sydneybradfisher14
52CarltonSoapy V
53Geelongferrisb
54CollingwoodBamboo Harvester
55SydneyWickzki
56North MelbourneBlue and Silver
57AdelaideGoBlues!
58EssendonTENACIOUS
59FremantleWalshistheGOAT
60CarltonSoapy V
61CarltonSoapy V
62Hawthorn
63CarltonSoapy V
64Greater Western Sydneybradfisher14
65Geelongferrisb
66Hawthorn
67North MelbourneBlue and Silver
68AdelaideGoBlues!
69MelbourneBlugazi
70Gold Coast
71Gold Coast
72BrisbaneSheephead
 
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Sorry mate.

6) Trading of picks included this year, no to future picks as they have no consequences.

All good mate. Was going to prank someone whilst filling a need.
 

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Pick 33 - Fremantle
Zak Johnson

May be considered the first 'reach' of 'bolter' of the draft but I'm very happy to be picking him up here.

Another utility type selection for the Docker's who are sured up all over the ground but need a bit more x factor and creative ball use. Johnson's a player who's shown proficiency in all areas of the ground as a MID/HBF/HFF but is best suited to a high half back role similar to that of Dan Houston where he can intercept the ball and springboard attacks for his team with his deadly ball use. His ball use is his strong point, almost never wastes a possession when he's looking to retain the ball, but he's also got a great creative streak to his game and isn't afraid to take the game on when called upon. He tends to look a bit lackadaisical at times, but never flustered or rushed, he can hit targets on any angle short or long and has some of the best vision with ball in hand in the draft class. The question mark is on his body and whether a few years in a professional environment can see him play with a bit more intensity while also adding to his agility, explosiveness and repeat sprint endurance.

An underrated competitor too who loves flogging a bloke or two with a nice hard late bump when he can. Never takes a backwards step at the contest.

Ninja Worrier ur up next
 
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Doing all this on my phone, which is tough to do.

Yep, I’ve been using the same formula for all the bids.


Pick 12 = 1,268 points - 20% = 1,014 points

Pick 28 - 677 points + Pick 31 606 points = 1,283 points

1,283 paid - 1,014 cost = 269 points over

Essendon Next Pick:
Pick 40 - 429 points + 269 points = 698 points or Pick 28
Hi Ten,

It doesn't really matter for the purposes of this phantom, so keep doing it this way.

But... The leftover points don't get added to the next pick. A new pick is inserted based on the leftover value, AFTER the draft order has been updated by removing the other picks. See the Heeney example on the link you shared, note the last pick used (57) gets moved back to 64, which is the value of the leftover picks.

So in this example, a new pick 12 is inserted and given to Essendon, everyone else shuffles down one pick. Essendon's pick 28 is moved to the back of the draft, and everyone after that pick shuffles up one. Essendon's pick 31 is moved to 51. Everyone else between 32 and 51 move up one. Essendon then have picks 39, 45, 51, 53, 54, 65. Here, 40 and 46 have been moved up one. 51 is new, and the remaining picks stay the same. I think...!!

It must be a nightmare doing this on your phone! Kudos to you. And as I said, just keep doing it the way you have been, it's fine that way.

Thanks for running this!
 
Hi Ten,

It doesn't really matter for the purposes of this phantom, so keep doing it this way.

But... The leftover points don't get added to the next pick. A new pick is inserted based on the leftover value, AFTER the draft order has been updated by removing the other picks. See the Heeney example on the link you shared, note the last pick used (57) gets moved back to 64, which is the value of the leftover picks.

So in this example, a new pick 12 is inserted and given to Essendon, everyone else shuffles down one pick. Essendon's pick 28 is moved to the back of the draft, and everyone after that pick shuffles up one. Essendon's pick 31 is moved to 51. Everyone else between 32 and 51 move up one. Essendon then have picks 39, 45, 51, 53, 54, 65. Here, 40 and 46 have been moved up one. 51 is new, and the remaining picks stay the same. I think...!!

It must be a nightmare doing this on your phone! Kudos to you. And as I said, just keep doing it the way you have been, it's fine that way.

Thanks for running this!
Hold please Bletch, we’re just running a check on your workings….:D

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Getting tough for doggies list needs here (without bidding on Ben Campo, which would annoy most with this exercise.)

Bid for West Coast NGA dynamic small forward Malakai Champion (nephew of Eddie Betts) TerryWallet what say you?
Sorry Coona. Just got online, wasn't expecting a bid here. Yes for the sake of this exercise WC will match, even though they've got a lot of small forwards including now Owies and Berry.
 
Pick 37 - Western Bulldogs - JACK OUGH - 194cm (15/12/2006) - GWV Rebels

Hybrid wingman with the “curious name”, has an excellent championship series playing on a wing, before moving to a more inside role at the back end of the season and in the Coates League finals. Prolific in both roles, at first glance looks better suited to the outside role as a prototype KPP sized athletic wingman. His midfield highlights showed a somewhat ungainly looking player, but had the happy knack of getting hands to the ball and dishing off effectively by hand.

Late birthday and plenty of maturity to come. Has he finished growing? May look more the part inside as he grows in to his frame. Another each way bet. A POD outside runner of the Acres mould (only bigger) or a player who could become a genuine big bodied mid. Perhaps even be a consideration to becoming a key position/third tall type in a professional environment. Probably a slow burn type, but with a very balanced list the ‘dogs can afford the development time.

One of a host of players in this draft who are largely untapped. Pablito you are up.
 

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Pick 37 - Power

I had to do it I'm sorry.

We bid on Ben Camporeale.

Soapy V do you match?
Half Baked Boo GIF
 
Pick 37 - Power

I had to do it I'm sorry.

We bid on Ben Camporeale.

Soapy V do you match?
Oh, man. Twice I wanted to bid and twice refrained due to this being a Carlton Phantom Draft.

It does highlight where he actually sits in the draft and how much we will be relying on goodwill if we maintain pick 38 as it stands.

This draft is not as deep as many, me included, think. There are players around the mark who are quality, but most are big boys in this part of the draft, rather than a range of types.
 
Oh, man. Twice I wanted to bid and twice refrained due to this being a Carlton Phantom Draft.

It does highlight where he actually sits in the draft and how much we will be relying on goodwill if we maintain pick 38 as it stands.

This draft is not as deep as many, me included, think. There are players around the mark who are quality, but most are big boys in this part of the draft, rather than a range of types.
Personally think there's enough happening here that it won't come until after 40, but I do hope we bundle 3 & 38 and try to trade with Richmond or the Saints.
 
Oh, man. Twice I wanted to bid and twice refrained due to this being a Carlton Phantom Draft.

It does highlight where he actually sits in the draft and how much we will be relying on goodwill if we maintain pick 38 as it stands.

This draft is not as deep as many, me included, think. There are players around the mark who are quality, but most are big boys in this part of the draft, rather than a range of types.
You should have bid, that’s what it’s all about.
 
Oh, man. Twice I wanted to bid and twice refrained due to this being a Carlton Phantom Draft.

It does highlight where he actually sits in the draft and how much we will be relying on goodwill if we maintain pick 38 as it stands.

This draft is not as deep as many, me included, think. There are players around the mark who are quality, but most are big boys in this part of the draft, rather than a range of types.

I agree with you but also have heard some insiders (might have been Twomey) who think Campo goes 45+

Not sure what's going on to tank his value this much.
 
I agree with you but also have heard some insiders (might have been Twomey) who think Campo goes 45+

Not sure what's going on to tank his value this much.
I think recruiters get spooked by pure inside mids that aren't elite users by foot or overly quick. It's also an extremely mid heavy draft, so teams are likely to fill that need with earlier picks which pushes him even further down the order. Father sons that are off broadway tend to drift further down the order regardless - Calsher Dear as a recent example.
 
I think recruiters get spooked by pure inside mids that aren't elite users by foot or overly quick. It's also an extremely mid heavy draft, so teams are likely to fill that need with earlier picks which pushes him even further down the order. Father sons that are off broadway tend to drift further down the order regardless - Calsher Dear as a recent example.

Yeah I've been saying the latter for weeks but seeing no action on Ben Campo is a touch surprising given what Coona said about late drafters needing inside mids being true.
 

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