List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

Future 3 rd Parker konst
44 for Daniel keep 25

yep
and alternatively f2 for daniel and (wait for it) a f3 coming back

we love our F3s

 

[Gippy Roo]

…. As long as the J isn’t for Jake Stringer

Hahaha! Nah it’s Jacob Konstanty. He got in contact with me this arvo. I didn’t realise Cal had mentioned it and had been on the board. Had the medical today. One year with a trigger for a second. Wrapped for him!


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[chubbspeterson]

I did like Konstanty in his draft year, think he's worth a punt on compared to Drury.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Future 3 rd Parker konst
44 for Daniel keep 25

Why would the dogs baulk now?

 

[Roostorm]

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Brady just realised that his phone is on 3G network and that’s the reason why it’s saying…No Service…on his screen.

 

[Gippy Roo]

I did like Konstanty in his draft year, think he's worth a punt on compared to Drury.

North only got in touch with him again last night. After the Houston deal fell over. It happened quickly. Haven’t been told picks but know it’s happening!


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[Hatchy1992]

Have been told Luke Parker will be a Roo by the end of the deadline. Everyone can relax. There’s more to it than this and it starts with J. It’s funny because it’s true!!


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I want to believe you but my trust has been betrayed one too many times.

 

[jay317]

Given he was likely to be delisted I hope it has little impact on what we're giving up

 

[zoomba23]

Can we please just give the swans 44

He's probably supposed to resemble Jesus, but thanks to today's shenanigans all I see in that George-based profile pic of yours is Jasper Pittard

 

[amaz199]

GWS are gonna develop more young guns this draft and probably be up there again.

They somehow manage to finish top 4 whilst having a deep draft haul.

 

[Themanbun]

I reckon Nostra has willed this into existence. Top work.

 

[Rooboy53]

If my F5 button breaks i've had a shite afternoon....

Ive exhausted all lollies and chips in the house.

 

[Gandolf the Great]

Some on here were whinging giving F1 for a 27 yr old... Barass is 29!


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Would have thought he could get another 3 to 4 years playing full back. It would really stabilise the backline

 

[Flawed Genius]

North only got in touch with him again last night. After the Houston deal fell over. It happened quickly. Haven’t been told picks but know it’s happening!


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two time all Australian halfback
Zero game small forward

 

[Passmore]

Hahaha! Nah it’s Jacob Konstanty. He got in contact with me this arvo. I didn’t realise Cal had mentioned it and had been on the board. Had the medical today. One year with a trigger for a second. Wrapped for him!


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Nice to get the human perspective behind all this.

 

[joegreen]

Just tell Richmond we will trade them pick 2 for picks 11+18 and when they re-enter the building and sit down we switch out Rawlings for Viney, done.

AFL Trade Period: Richmond considering pick two swap move after Shai Bolton, Daniel Rioli trades​

Already set to hold one of the greatest draft hands in AFL history, Richmond is weighing up a possible draft bombshell that could see them dominate the top of the 2024 super draft.

Richmond has assembled the most extraordinary draft hand collected by a non-expansion club in the modern era after list boss Blair Hartley extracted a monster return for departing stars Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli.

On Wednesday morning the Dockers folded and handed over picks 10, 11 and 18 for Bolton, pick 14 and a future third rounder after the Tigers threatened to trade their 25-year-old match-winner to the Eagles.

Then as revealed by the Herald Sun, the Suns handed over picks six and 23 for Rioli and the Tigers only needed to give back picks 51, 61, 70 and 76.


It came a day after Richmond lost vice-captain Liam Baker but secured pick 14 in exchange.

The Tigers have the best draft hand seen in recent memory apart from GWS and Gold Coast in their formative years ahead of potential pick swaps and trades into the 2025 national draft.

Shai Bolton has been traded to Fremantle.

With selections one, six, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24 the Tigers could dominate an AFL super-draft and set up their next period of premiership success if they can nail those picks.

Bolton will sign a five-year deal at the Dockers – handed an extra season after being contracted to 2028 with the Tigers – while Rioli gets a five-year deal and a hefty price rise.

Richmond only paid Rioli about $600,000 this year despite his brilliant Jack Dyer Medal form.

The club will also shed Baker’s salary so in the space of 48 hours will lose as much as $2.5 million in salary cap obligations given Bolton was due up to $1.2 million a year.

It will give the Tigers a chance to bank that room or pay some of their players on front-ended deals to create space for later seasons and free agency acquisitions.

Dustin Martin is also coming off a $1.3 million-per-season deal but some of those savings will already have been absorbed in contracts for players like Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

What deal should North Melbourne accept for pick two?​

Picks 6 and 10
Picks 10 and 11
Picks 6 and 11
Picks 6 and 18
None
Cast your vote

The Tigers have one more season of a back-ended deal that will pay Tom Lynch $1.5 million next year so will have as much cap space as anyone in the competition in coming years.

Richmond had traded Ivan Soldo and then moved back in the 2023 national draft from 35 to 38 to 40, all the time collecting back-end 2024 draft picks which it used to maximise this draft hand.

Richmond now has the chance to consider whether it is keen to trade up to the No. 2 pick overall given North Melbourne’s willingness to slide back for an extra draft selection.

That move would require two first-round picks but would see the Tigers with picks one, two and six overall in the draft.

AFL: The Fox Footy podcast discuss how the top five pick are shaping up ahead of the 2024.

The Tigers could also consider whether they want to spread out their picks over the next two drafts given they will want to stockpile enough elite young talent before Tasmania’s introduction.

Clubs are desperate to secure 2024 first-rounders so the Tigers would easily be able to trade into next year’s draft.

The Roos are keen to trade out of their 2025 first-rounder which should be in the top handful of picks.

RICHMOND'S DRAFT HAND​

PICK 1
PICK 6
PICK 10
PICK 11
PICK 18
PICK 20
PICK 23
PICK 24

So if the Tigers can secure that draft pick given their likely struggles they could have two of the top four or five picks in next year’s draft.

Departing Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said recently he believed the club could bounce quickly.

“At this stage there is an opportunity to turn this club around in a couple of years,” he said. “We have a really strong platform, a strong organisation, a culture and shared understanding of what it takes and our own supporters understand what it takes. It’s not reacting, it’s making evidence-based decisions and we will be back in no time.”

 

[New_Roo]

Given he was likely to be delisted I hope it has little impact on what we're giving up

Had he been delisted there was other interest particularly Richmond and *


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[Makeshift Park]

How was the flight CBSlogger?

 

[Passmore]

Would have thought he could get another 3 to 4 years playing full back. It would really stabilise the backline

Read somewhere (Carlton board, I think) that he’s got a crook back.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

North only got in touch with him again last night. After the Houston deal fell over. It happened quickly. Haven’t been told picks but know it’s happening!


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Would be we had a list spot now after missing out on Dan.

 

[Disco Dew]

two time all Australian halfback
Zero game small forward

 

[Makeshift Park]

Hahaha! Nah it’s Jacob Konstanty. He got in contact with me this arvo. I didn’t realise Cal had mentioned it and had been on the board. Had the medical today. One year with a trigger for a second. Wrapped for him!


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Could be a pin-worthy post mods.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Hearing Parker talks are starting to gather some movement.

 

[Gippy Roo]

I want to believe you but my trust has been betrayed one too many times.

Understandable! I too was hanging on Phillyroo’s every word in regards to Dusty! JK wouldn’t do that to me, if he says it’s happening then it is. Trust the club to get it done! They wouldn’t offer him a contract and get him in for a medical for it to fall short in the same day! Brady is cooking, let the man cook!


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[Kangaroos4eva]

North only got in touch with him again last night. After the Houston deal fell over. It happened quickly. Haven’t been told picks but know it’s happening!


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Not even 20 yet. So much potential.