List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Roostorm · 2024-10-16T18:56:25+1100

Lomas said:
Fun fact, they a called ‘nibble pies’ in Warrnambool.

Yes…and l still don’t get it

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T18:56:54+1100

Hearts to hearts said:
Who is Parker’s manager, doing the deals?

think its former north legend dave trotter from hemisphere sports

need him to get down to marvel asap like paul connors is doing for his clients

Roostorm · 2024-10-16T18:56:59+1100

ToxicMegaPunts said:
Is that a euphemism?

Who knows…it is Brady….

cznsnowy91 · 2024-10-16T18:57:08+1100

giantroo said:

That can't really be what they are asking for surely

LB2Snake · 2024-10-16T18:57:41+1100

joegreen said:
AFL Trade Period: Richmond considering pick two swap move after Shai Bolton, Daniel Rioli trades
Already set to hold one of the greatest draft hands in AFL history, Richmond is weighing up a possible draft bombshell that could see them dominate the top of the 2024 super draft.

Richmond has assembled the most extraordinary draft hand collected by a non-expansion club in the modern era after list boss Blair Hartley extracted a monster return for departing stars Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli.

On Wednesday morning the Dockers folded and handed over picks 10, 11 and 18 for Bolton, pick 14 and a future third rounder after the Tigers threatened to trade their 25-year-old match-winner to the Eagles.

Then as revealed by the Herald Sun, the Suns handed over picks six and 23 for Rioli and the Tigers only needed to give back picks 51, 61, 70 and 76.

It came a day after Richmond lost vice-captain Liam Baker but secured pick 14 in exchange.

The Tigers have the best draft hand seen in recent memory apart from GWS and Gold Coast in their formative years ahead of potential pick swaps and trades into the 2025 national draft.

Shai Bolton has been traded to Fremantle.

With selections one, six, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23 and 24 the Tigers could dominate an AFL super-draft and set up their next period of premiership success if they can nail those picks.

Bolton will sign a five-year deal at the Dockers – handed an extra season after being contracted to 2028 with the Tigers – while Rioli gets a five-year deal and a hefty price rise.

Richmond only paid Rioli about $600,000 this year despite his brilliant Jack Dyer Medal form.

The club will also shed Baker’s salary so in the space of 48 hours will lose as much as $2.5 million in salary cap obligations given Bolton was due up to $1.2 million a year.

It will give the Tigers a chance to bank that room or pay some of their players on front-ended deals to create space for later seasons and free agency acquisitions.

Dustin Martin is also coming off a $1.3 million-per-season deal but some of those savings will already have been absorbed in contracts for players like Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

What deal should North Melbourne accept for pick two?
Picks 6 and 10
Picks 10 and 11
Picks 6 and 11
Picks 6 and 18
None
Cast your vote

The Tigers have one more season of a back-ended deal that will pay Tom Lynch $1.5 million next year so will have as much cap space as anyone in the competition in coming years.

Richmond had traded Ivan Soldo and then moved back in the 2023 national draft from 35 to 38 to 40, all the time collecting back-end 2024 draft picks which it used to maximise this draft hand.

Richmond now has the chance to consider whether it is keen to trade up to the No. 2 pick overall given North Melbourne’s willingness to slide back for an extra draft selection.

That move would require two first-round picks but would see the Tigers with picks one, two and six overall in the draft.

AFL: The Fox Footy podcast discuss how the top five pick are shaping up ahead of the 2024.

The Tigers could also consider whether they want to spread out their picks over the next two drafts given they will want to stockpile enough elite young talent before Tasmania’s introduction.

Clubs are desperate to secure 2024 first-rounders so the Tigers would easily be able to trade into next year’s draft.

The Roos are keen to trade out of their 2025 first-rounder which should be in the top handful of picks.

RICHMOND'S DRAFT HAND
PICK 1
PICK 6
PICK 10
PICK 11
PICK 18
PICK 20
PICK 23
PICK 24

So if the Tigers can secure that draft pick given their likely struggles they could have two of the top four or five picks in next year’s draft.

Departing Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said recently he believed the club could bounce quickly.

“At this stage there is an opportunity to turn this club around in a couple of years,” he said. “We have a really strong platform, a strong organisation, a culture and shared understanding of what it takes and our own supporters understand what it takes. It’s not reacting, it’s making evidence-based decisions and we will be back in no time.”

Who wrote that article. Johnny Bloody Ralph? Tigers end up with 1, 2 and 6? GAGF’d!
6 and 10 off FRO!!! Gives me the sh!ts how the media do these club’s bidding for them.

Scottroo · 2024-10-16T18:57:42+1100

Is Nostra actually Brady?

Clarke is King · 2024-10-16T18:57:48+1100

cznsnowy91 said:
That can't really be what they are asking for surely

It is, and don’t call me Shirley

gerry101101 · 2024-10-16T18:57:54+1100

cznsnowy91 said:
That can't really be what they are asking for surely

They want a future father son. Good form on that front.

Ashley B · 2024-10-16T18:57:56+1100

What’s happening with the Daniel deal ?

Liam Boy · 2024-10-16T18:58:01+1100

Scottroo said:
Is Nostra actually Brady?

**** I hope not

giantroo · 2024-10-16T18:58:01+1100

Mitch Cleary just said: Caleb Daniel is now pushing for this trade and wants to play for Alastair Clarkson

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-16T18:58:01+1100

That's a ludicrous counter from Swans. That's an early 20's pick next year plus 44.
I think they want him to play 300 games. We might have to come back end of next year, get him for nothing.

The Lone Latic · 2024-10-16T18:58:21+1100

The Nostradamus said:
think its former north legend dave trotter

need him to get down to marvel asap like paul connors is doing for his clients

Hopefully he does something because he didn't do much on the field, and I don't think historically he's looked out for us with player movement but I could be wrong on this part

Duck the GOAT · 2024-10-16T18:58:25+1100

Bren said:
Relieved we didn't cave a potential top 5 pick for a 28yo... but relieved that we gave it a go and not sit on our hands

Were we realistically ever in it?
If the 3 way deal fell through, we would've got him? Every chance he would've remained at Port and bided time for 12 months.

tazaa said:
Building through the draft does not lead to success.
Its a numbers scenario.

You are only meant to get 1 first rounder in once a year and you need to build a list of what? at least 8-10 of them minimum to challenge for a flag.

Our issue is how old is LDU going to be until he's sick of waiting?

Our inability to land free agents and sell the club is going to be our undoing. One way or another.
This whole trade free agency period is another fail for the club. Yes some of it out of our control but the clubs only as good as the list it put together.

Aside from free agency, how many trades have actually proven successful? I reckon the last ones were Higgo and Waite back in 2015. That's damning.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T18:58:32+1100

Scottroo said:
Is Nostra actually Brady?

no im far better

giantroo · 2024-10-16T18:58:45+1100

Liam Boy · 2024-10-16T18:58:54+1100

giantroo said:
Mitch Cleary just said: Caleb Daniel is now pushing for this trade and wants to play for Alastair Clarkson

I'm sure this has been litigated in the 1000 pages of this but... BFNAAK, right?

Ashley B · 2024-10-16T18:59:04+1100

giantroo said:
Mitch Cleary just said: Caleb Daniel is now pushing for this trade and wants to play for Alastair Clarkson

Is that football or guitar

Farthers · 2024-10-16T18:59:11+1100

giantroo said:
Mitch Cleary just said: Caleb Daniel is now pushing for this trade and wants to play for Alastair Clarkson

You didn't have to save this until 30 mins before the deadline Caleb, FFS!

BigRedRoo · 2024-10-16T18:59:13+1100

giantroo said:
Mitch Cleary just said: Caleb Daniel is now pushing for this trade and wants to play for Alastair Clarkson

they see eye to eye

archereleven · 2024-10-16T18:59:34+1100

Snoz better no bend over here.

The backlash agaibst Cola will be tremendous.

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Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T18:59:38+1100

Lomas said:
Maybe this is the whole charade after all.

I'm confident Parker was organised amicably weeks ago.

joegreen · 2024-10-16T18:59:41+1100

LB2Snake said:
Who wrote that article. Johnny Bloody Ralph? Tigers end up with 1, 2 and 6? GAGF’d!
6 and 10 off FRO!!! Gives me the sh!ts how the media do these club’s bidding for them.

Yes it was Ralph

kingcarey1 · 2024-10-16T18:59:55+1100

Did Bigfooty actually create this Sydney trade?

SpiderBurton22 · 2024-10-16T19:00:17+1100

Lomas said:
Fun fact, they a called ‘nibble pies’ in Warrnambool.

Do not ever come to Warrnambool and ask for a party pie.

It is like asking for a parmi.

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