List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[perplexed]

Which is why we dont need picks in 2025 draft.

Really?

I'll re-post the list of our players OOC next year. There are 15 of them, more if we re-sign any of Laz, Drury or Cooper.

LDU, Goater, Corr, Tucker, Ford, Bergman, Phillips, Pink, Stevo, CCJ + Rookies - K Dawson, Teakle, Maley, RHJ, Payne

You don't see any players there that we might need to replace?

 

[Johnny99]

None of Caleb, Darling or Parker will be part of our next premiership because they are all TOO OLD. Nothing hit and miss about that.

We dumped the rebuild like a hot steaming bag of shit for wins next year.

You are boring.

Pi55 off and go and barrack for Collingwood.

They just pick up Perryman and Houston and won trade week again.

 

[DesertRoo]

WilPhil won't be getting a game unless we have a couple mids injured.

Sent from my SM-A156E using Tapatalk

he needs to reinvent himself, if I were him Id be pushing for that hhf role, work on repeat sprints and up the tackling pressure, two things he can control.

 

[chubbspeterson]

None of Caleb, Darling or Parker will be part of our next premiership because they are all TOO OLD. Nothing hit and miss about that.

We dumped the rebuild like a hot steaming bag of shit for wins next year.

I didn't like the Daniel trade, but did the Dees dump the rebuild when they added Bernie Vince (traded for pick 23) and Lewis at the Dees? They were not part of their premiership team either, but they helped change the culture/mood, standards and leadership of that core group of players.

At some point in the build we had to trade for some of these experienced types to help the kids. I would have been fine with just adding Parker and Darling this year and keeping pick 25, but it is what it is.

 

[speedy]

History shows pick 25 hasn’t exactly set the world on fire, only Josh Dunkley and James rowbottom are the only ones worth mentioning in the last 10 years or so, so we didn’t lose out on much trading it out

Sick of reading this stupid argument. Plenty of gun players have been selected after pick 24. It won’t even be pick 25 on draft day for **** sake.

 

[DesertRoo]

Sick of reading this stupid argument. Plenty of gun players have been selected after pick 24. It won’t even be pick 25 on draft day for **** sake.

Representation of grown men of big footy last night..

 

[DuckYeah]

im not sure we are ready for what kind of impact these players will have on our younger group. This could either be a flop or one great turnaround.

The way Luke spoke in that interview suggests he aint here for a super contribution, he’s here to get this team up the ladder pronto

 

[chubbspeterson]

There is a stark difference in leverage when trading for contracted v non contracted players, irregardless of age, cv, etc, i presume if any of our targets were not contracted, the price paid would have been significantly less, is this right or wrong ?

Who pays the salary I think comes into it as well. Saints must be taking most of Macrae's 900k to get him at pick 47.
I'm sure we tried to do something similar with Caleb in offering to pay the salary and give up a cheaper pick, but with Macrae's and Bailey Smith's money coming off their books so to speak, they perhaps were more interested in pick 25 and were prepared to pay Caleb's salary to hit the cap floor. I'm speculating a bit, but I wonder who is paying the first three years of Caleb's contract given we supposedly only gave him an extra year.

 

[DuckYeah]

Tomlinson as a DFA depth defender?

 

[Shinboner '07]

Sick of reading this stupid argument. Plenty of gun players have been selected after pick 24. It won’t even be pick 25 on draft day for **** sake.

lol take a walk and calm yourself down

 

[speedy]

I didn't like the Daniel trade, but did the Dees dump the rebuild when they added Bernie Vince (traded for pick 23) and Lewis at the Dees? They were not part of their premiership team either, but they helped change the culture/mood, standards and leadership of that core group of players.

At some point in the build we had to trade for some of these experienced types to help the kids. I would have been fine with just adding Parker and Darling this year and keeping pick 25, but it is what it is.

Well if they stopped at Parker and darling I wouldn’t be so pissed.

 

[koshari]

I bet you don’t wear those in the milking sheds there koshari

Spot on given we dont milk...

 

[kangamike]

My list of emotions yesterday



5:36pm – Why can’t this club get a deal done.

6:12pm – Well, looks like we are going to have to keep waiting for the kids to get experience.

7:14pm – we might have got our guys… here's hoping.

7:26pm – Parker you beauty. Daniel, paid overs but I’m happy.

7:51pm – time for a beer, we should at least double our wins next year.

8:26pm – 2nd beer. 8 wins will be a pass mark.

8:54pm – 3rd beer. Hmmmm 11 wins, I wonder if 11 wins could get us in to the finals.

9:32pm – 4th beer. I love this club. We are going places now. Luke will be so good for Georgie and he will protect the Sheez.

10:02pm – 5th beer, Yup, I think were making finals next year.

10:08pm – 1st shot, The improvement in this team is going to be amazing, we are going to rise up so quickly.

10:36pm – 2nd shot and 6th beer. We could have 5 AA players next year. Sheez, Big X, Georgie, LDU and Souva. WOW, we could somehow sneak in to the top 4.

10:55pm – 3rd and 4th shots. Anyone can win the flag from the top 4, why can’t it be us.

11: 18pm – 5th and 6th shots and 7th beer. OMG, were winning the flag next year… Go Roos. I love this club, time for a 2025 premiers tatt… is it to early?

 

[speedy]

You are boring.

Pi55 off and go and barrack for Collingwood.

They just pick up Perryman and Houston and won trade week again.

Cheers for the personal attack

 

[DuckYeah]

Sick of reading this stupid argument. Plenty of gun players have been selected after pick 24. It won’t even be pick 25 on draft day for **** sake.

you know what im sick of? Having an 18 year (19 next season) jet stuck at half back because he can hit a target. I want that jet doing damage up the ground. You saw 5 or 6 bounces from the back pocket.. i wanna see that through the middle with a shot on goal.

Is pick 25 going to release that? **** NO. Caleb Daniel will.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

6:20 in for North



Twomey mentioned our trade offer to Port for Houston was pick 13(GC) and pick 44

So a pick we didn’t have (but were presumably ready to trade F1 to get), and the pick which we had to use to get Parker and Konstanty? I’m pretty glad that didn’t wind up happening.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

My list of emotions yesterday



5:36pm – Why can’t this club get a deal done.

6:12pm – Well, looks like we are going to have to keep waiting for the kids to get experience.

7:14pm – we might have got our guys… here's hoping.

7:26pm – Parker you beauty. Daniel, paid overs but I’m happy.

7:51pm – time for a beer, we should at least double our wins next year.

8:26pm – 2nd beer. 8 wins will be a pass mark.

8:54pm – 3rd beer. Hmmmm 11 wins, I wonder if 11 wins could get us in to the finals.

9:32pm – 4th beer. I love this club. We are going places now. Luke will be so good for Georgie and he will protect the Sheez.

10:02pm – 5th beer, Yup, I think were making finals next year.

10:08pm – 1st shot, The improvement in this team is going to be amazing, we are going to rise up so quickly.

10:36pm – 2nd shot and 6th beer. We could have 5 AA players next year. Sheez, Big X, Georgie, LDU and Souva. WOW, we could somehow sneak in to the top 4.

10:55pm – 3rd and 4th shots. Anyone can win the flag from the top 4, why can’t it be us.

11: 18pm – 5th and 6th shots and 7th beer. OMG, were winning the flag next year… Go Roos. I love this club, time for a 2025 premiers tatt… is it to early?

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Lmac and Jy had great leaders and roll models. Look at them now… devoid of leadership.

What role of roll models did they have?

Bahn Mi's or just plain old salad rolls?

 

[koshari]

You are boring.

Pi55 off and go and barrack for Collingwood.

They just pick up Perryman and Houston and won trade week again.

Again.... Dodo has won the last 10

 

[DuckYeah]

None of Caleb, Darling or Parker will be part of our next premiership because they are all TOO OLD. Nothing hit and miss about that.

We dumped the rebuild like a hot steaming bag of shit for wins next year.

Who says Caleb and Parker cant be part of North Success? You kidding or what? How many games have we been beaten because no one on the ground can control the game and players mental fragility.

Those two are worth their weight in gold.

Didn’t you watch Hawthorn this year? Things can turn rather quickly

 

[DuckYeah]

Lmac and Jy had great leaders and roll models. Look at them now… devoid of leadership.

People keep talking about draft picks being magic beans. The only magic beans I see are Caleb, Parker and Darling the way they are being talked up on how their leadership is going to impact this playing list even well after their careers are over.

happy meal and stinkin had role models who ended up getting sick with cancer, had coaches walk out, had the mess of the hub, had Jack Z as the ONLY one to get em through. We let go of two leaders in Tarrant and Higgins.

They had bugger all mentorships. They’re mentally weak and void of leadership. Can dress up their dogs in designer wear though

 

[DANMAN]

We need a poll on what we can split pick 2 For. Maybe even include the F1 or F2 option. My vote would be 2 and F2 for 6,11,24. I think that’s realistic. They will want to keep the pick at 10 to go before us. 3 in the first 25 would be great and we could all then chill on trading pick 25.

IMO...and I hope I'm wrong. we will only get 10 & 11 for this years pick 2. would like 6 & 11.
but i doubt Richmond will come at that. 6 & 18 may be a option ? We will have to take unders...even slightly

 

[DuckYeah]

IMO...and I hope I'm wrong. we will only get 10 & 11 for this years pick 2. would like 6 & 11.
but i doubt Richmond will come at that. 6 & 18 may be a option ? We will have to take unders...even slightly

Depends who they want for their second pick and who Carlton want innit? Pick 2 could mean a whole heap more to Richmond than it does to us

 

[Scottroo]

Sure, but for every miss there’s a massive hit.

If you are going to argue we may have just picked up a bust, you need to equally declare we may have also just as likely missed out on a club champion.

The average games played for players in this pick range is 91.

Meaning for every complete bust, there’s a 200+ game player.

Yep and that’s what Daniel will be

 

[ferball]

Very happy with our trade period. My only gripe is we've still got our F3, I thought that could have been used in the Luke Parker trade.

With any luck it still will be.