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Plenty of time left for them to soften their stance when Dan gets antsy about leaving and they realise the Pies can’t give them as much value as us.This is a recent development too.
Houston really wants to move but Port are being incredibly difficult with its demands. Especially when it's dealing with us.
We've given up on that race it seems. Would have to be a significant change in demands from Port for us to bite.
so you are willing to trade a future second for caleb?Yeah I get it, I do.
But we have to start winning. I reckon Clarko knows this as well. He is worried about what this group will become if we have another poor year.
I'm willing to pay overs. I know it's not fair, but our situation is just so unique. We have to get 5-6 plus wins next year.
If Houston was ever interested in us, he would be a Roo by now. He doesn't want to come.
We should walk away because if he does come now it would be like Polec, coming to us to keep his misses happy and taking the most money on offer. I'm not saying he would be a no show like Polec, just he wouldn't be coming for the right reasons.
And we would be playing overs like we did for Polac. We could have had a Ben Kingor a Bailey SmithPLAYERCARDSTART34Ben King
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- 24
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- 202cm
- Wt
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- Pos.
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- D
- 7.2
- 2star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 2.2
- 2star
- M
- 3.5
- 4star
- T
- 0.5
- 3star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 5.6
- 2star
- HB
- 1.9
- 1star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
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- 1star
- G
- 1.5
- 5star
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- 6.8
- 2star
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- 4.4
- 2star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 0.2
- 3star
- G
- 1.0
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PLAYERCARDENDif we did it right. We are still paying for that, thanks Scott's and Joyce's.PLAYERCARDSTART6Bailey Smith
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- 24
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
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- D
- 18.3
- 5star
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- 8.5
- 3star
- HB
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- 5star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 3.8
- 5star
- CL
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- 4star
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- 19.8
- 5star
- K
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- 4star
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Let's not be short sighted and make the same mistake.
Who in this year's top five has shown the potential that Sheezel and Wardlaw did in 2021/22?
It keeps getting asked, but I can't recall a single person who's answered this since the Houston debate started.
I suggest either would go at number one in this year's draft.
Who knows mate but I think based on what has been reported and how keen we are that we're at best a last resort for him and Collingwood seem keen enough to offer Port enough.Anything I've seen suggests we are. Sam Edmunds was on SEN earlier saying he believes Houston is open to playing with us, we're in it and the Pies aren't necessarily his preference as reported elsewhere. Also reckons even if they get 13 from GC that this won't be enough with Richards. Carlton seem to be out as they won't trade out of this draft. We might be seen as a Bradbury on it but it's probably worth noting that even if we have the F1 offered and that looks like the best offer for Port, they've been pretty clear they want into this draft at this stage.
Hahahaha
My source is telling me Port want Pick 2 AND a future second!
Carlton has said piss off. We told them get stuffed. We were confident we could land him but Port are being ****wits. Not so likely anymore as initially thought unfortunately.
We were confident we could land him but Port are being ****wits.
Anyone want to trade Harry Sheezel or George Wardlaw for Jack Sinclair or Adam Saad?
No?
You sure?
Well that's where we'd be at trading picks 3 or 4 for an AA HB from the same year.
Screw your ****ing heads back on.
he is not very good, very small frame alsoWith all these potential trades what’s the word about River Stevens are we going to take him or Rookie him?
No because he is happy to go there and is waiting for those clubs to make a deal that satisfies Port.
Port have been feeding the media for weeks that North want him and are willing to overpay so pony up other clubs. If Dan said I'll go to North it would been done by now.
Collingwoods non existent salary cap is really starting to raise eyebrows.
I am expecting a Melbourne Storm style scandal at cooking the books.
12 months on from a flag, how are they able to pay Perryman 900k a year and Houston 1mil.
It’s just off.
i am on the don't trade a future first camp, could also be used as trade collateral next year for a big fish if needed
split pick 2 camp
otherwise keep both
look if we get a big fish (cadman etc) we might need to trade 2 firsts next yearYou can trade back in! In a Couple of drafts time, you won't want to have many picks as they could potentially be pretty useless
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Who knows mate but I think based on what has been reported and how keen we are that we're at best a last resort for him and Collingwood seem keen enough to offer Port enough.
I think he's more likely to come to us than stay with Port. So there's that.
But I just think the chances of him coming to us are very low.
I think the top ~3 will be better than this year, but then the quality drops quickly after that.Souup
Next years draft, should we be investing in it or not?
Yep, I am doing a future 2nd for him. It would be nice to get something back but I would do it even if we didn’t.so you are willing to trade a future second for caleb?
we need something coming back our way on top of it
future second for caleb daniel and a future 3rd
then use that future 3rd with pick 62 to get parker
turn a future second and pick 62 into daniel and parker
I agree with a lot of your points. At what point do you think the club needs to show ambition to its supporters and playing group that they want to improve and turn things around quicker? There will be a tipping point in going back to the draft if our talented players don't think the club is doing enough to provide them with a platform to win sooner rather than later, and decide to explore option elsewhere.
How many of those are academy kids?I think the top ~3 will be better than this year, but then the quality drops quickly after that.
Yes I agree re the importance of winning and why we are targetting players that will help have immediate impact. Emotionally scarring talented young players conditioned to losing breeds poor future leadership and the cycle continues. Rinse, repeat. We need to start winning and we need to start now.Yeah I get it, I do.
But we have to start winning. I reckon Clarko knows this as well. He is worried about what this group will become if we have another poor year.
I'm willing to pay overs. I know it's not fair, but our situation is just so unique. We have to get 5-6 plus wins next year.
Hahahaha
My source is telling me Port want Pick 2 AND a future second!
Carlton has said piss off. We told them get stuffed. We were confident we could land him but Port are being ****wits. Not so likely anymore as initially thought unfortunately.
But I was reliably informed that we had built a great relationship with Port after the JHF Trade. Apparently it was win / win for everybody. :stern lookHahahaha
My source is telling me Port want Pick 2 AND a future second!
Carlton has said piss off. We told them get stuffed. We were confident we could land him but Port are being ****wits. Not so likely anymore as initially thought unfortunately.