List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 11th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.

Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[DocSholl]

Our offer is still a future first. Port have asked for way overs and we have said 'no'.

Our list management isn't that stupid. No one is.

A F1 with nothing coming back is already way overs.

 

[Skarrz]

Our offer is still a future first. Port have asked for way overs and we have said 'no'.

Our list management isn't that stupid. No one is.

The longer this goes on the more likely I feel we are, I hope we don’t regret a top 5 pick

 

[Ashley B]

With 12 and 14. Good luck to them.

Some of these entitled clubs are delusional. The entitlement is possibly the reason.

 

[Roostorm]

Do the Carlton plan A and give brown paper bags to someone ?

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Our offer is still a future first. Port have asked for way overs and we have said 'no'.

Our list management isn't that stupid. No one is.

Our F1 is so far overs as it is.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

For the more knowledgeable draft observers… if we swung 2 to GCS for 6 & 13… could we swing 6 & our pick in the 20s for Carlton’s 12 & 14?

Would leave us with 12, 13 & 14 for 2 & 25. Too skewed for us?

We would get more value in positions of need, but giving up the chance of one from the second bracket would be a big gamble.

 

[DocSholl]

I just don't think you ever give up a top three pick for multiple picks in the teens

 

[Passmore]

“Two draft aces”

“Generational talent” gets a run too…

 

[tales129]

interesting tidbit from Brady in that interview about darling - says we have him for a few years so our young key forwards don’t have to play as focal KPPs then rattles off 19,20,21 year olds

Only guys we have in that range are maley and shotgun who I see as being more of a defender. Reckon we’ve committed to a forward with our pick, be it Armstrong or Tauru

 

[perplexed]

A F1 with nothing coming back is already way overs.

Yes, but future picks always have a discount applied to them. Which is why we should be splitting 2 instead.

 

[Passmore]

Some of these entitled clubs are delusional. The entitlement is possibly the reason.

Entitlement is a helluva drug.

 

[Makeshift Park]

interesting tidbit from Brady in that interview about darling - says we have him for a few years so our young key forwards don’t have to play as focal KPPs then rattles off 19,20,21 year olds

Only guys we have in that range are maley and shotgun who I see as being more of a defender. Reckon we’ve committed to a forward with our pick, be it Armstrong or Tauru

If we swap 2 for say 6/14 we could very well get Tauru, then 2 of Shanahan, Whitlock, Berry, Hannaford and Gerreyn.

 

[Bulge]

Future 1st for Houston is criminal, no thanks

 

[perplexed]

interesting tidbit from Brady in that interview about darling - says we have him for a few years so our young key forwards don’t have to play as focal KPPs then rattles off 19,20,21 year olds

Only guys we have in that range are maley and shotgun who I see as being more of a defender. Reckon we’ve committed to a forward with our pick, be it Armstrong or Tauru

Hopefully. It also suggests we don't see either CCJ or Teakle in our long-term plans. Personally I'd cut and payout CJ now. I don't see the point of keeping him on the list when he's likely to miss the start of the season and get delisted at the end of it.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Every time Rawlings talks, he’s thoroughly unimpressive.

because his nostrils are like exhaust fans and the excess air intake affects his voice box?

 

[Makeshift Park]

Hopefully. It also suggests we don't see either CCJ or Teakle in our long-term plans. Personally I'd cut and payout CJ now. I don't see the point of keeping him on the list when he's likely to miss the start of the season and get delisted at the end of it.

I agree but I think in Free's absence CCJ must be the ruck depth until Goad is ready.

 

[Passmore]

They don't have a 2nd, F2 or F1. Only 12 and 14. Not gonna get it done.

Jaz-Z cares not for your facts.

 

[Passmore]

Carlton trying to trade two crappy Hyundai Tucsons for a Ferrari.

Collingwood throw Humphries in discussions around Noble, Carlton are supposedly proposing this…..

 

[DocSholl]

Yes, but future picks always have a discount applied to them. Which is why we should be splitting 2 instead.

Possibly, although you need to find another club who is willing to do that in a draft that seems to have a wide open top 6-7.

Houston is a jet but that F1 will be a top three pick, even with him.

 

[ferball]

Hopefully. It also suggests we don't see either CCJ or Teakle in our long-term plans. Personally I'd cut and payout CJ now. I don't see the point of keeping him on the list when he's likely to miss the start of the season and get delisted at the end of it.

You wouldn't be planning on Teakle making it, its just a nice bonus if he does.

 

[ferball]

I agree but I think in Free's absence CCJ must be the ruck depth until Goad is ready.

Teakle is a better ruck imo.

 

[perplexed]

Possibly, although you need to find another club who is willing to do that in a draft that seems to have a wide open top 6-7.

Houston is a jet but that F1 will be a top three pick, even with him.

Definitely a hard year to split. I'd try the Saints. 2 for 7 (Houston), F1. Then try and trade their F1 back into this draft. They should be looking for a gun mid and the best ones are likely to be gone by their pick.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Teakle is a better ruck imo.

I guess it depends on the configuration.

We were playing X and Teakle and Pink for most of the second half of the season.

If Xerri does a hammy, we'd probably need to field Teakle and CCJ, assuming Darling replaces Pink.

 

[hotchilli]

Should've been given a crack with us long ago.

I like Watkins but he's so similar to Lazzaro as a footballer.

We already have too many undersized mids.

 

[Lomas]

I guess it depends on the configuration.

We were playing X and Teakle and Pink for most of the second half of the season.

If Xerri does a hammy, we'd probably need to field Teakle and CCJ, assuming Darling replaces Pink.

A good reminder that our depth is lacking, and depth is what makes for good campaigns, competition, and improvement.