List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R3 Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

i'm glad we didnt get houston because imo would have been overs and it opens up our future second and third rounders to get daniel and parker deals done if needed

 

[Horizons_00]

We need to start winning games of football.

That’s it.
This is all that matters.

This is why i hate this whole "its just a sugar hit, its not sustainable". We need to turn any win into a belief.

Look at where were at, a win is a win, and we need more of em!

 

[New_Roo]

If Tucker was good, we wouldn't need Daniels.

Tucker is incomparable with ball use.... Tucker is a solid role player, these are the types we need to start pushing out


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[Tas]

I’d say a little of that had to do with his back half distributor role been taken by one of the best in the league at that role in Bailey Dale. After that it seemed like Bevo chucked Daniels around to different positions, on which none he played awesome in. Which led to a lack of confidence which we have seen happen to many.

Reminds me of one of the loves of my life, Peter Mann. A bloody good CHF, but given north had a fairly decent CHF at the time, had to ply his trade for us out of position. Moves to Freo, plays his natural position, has a number of good years.

I think the lack of a decent distributor back there makes a player like Daniel’s more valuable to us, than to the dogs and other teams.

Sorry, i thought i was replying to a different post. I edited my post, i meant that if Tucker was good then we wouldn't need Daniels. Tucker is a neat kick, but Daniels is a very good kick.

The problem with Daniels is he is a midget, saw a game earlier in the year and the dogs got slaughtered because the team they were playing were kicking it to whomever Daniels was near. It would be less of an issue for us because the opposition has a smorgasbord of options to kick to because McDonald, Fisher, etc aren't exactly elite defenders either.

 

[Tas]

Tucker is incomparable with ball use.... Tucker is a solid role player, these are the types we need to start pushing out


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That is my point... Tucker is okay, but he isn't good. If he was good (by foot) we wouldn't need Daniels.

 

[ferball]

That was the pick we used on Goad?

Wil Dawson.

Goad was JHF trade.

 

[spurs]

Who's Jack Crisp?

Jasper Pittard's mate who was steak knives.

 

[Horizons_00]

Hopefully we get Parker done today at minimal cost. Anything else is a bonus. nail the draft. Improve fitness and onfield chemistry. We will improve.

Hmmm lol

 

[kool kangas]

Ok , Time to get Parker....This is the first trade we need done...If Daniel gets done next thats fine and if it doesn't thats fine also. If we get a good deal for our F1st then we take it but we hold our Pick#2 until later...

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We need maturity and experience more than we just need the never ending promise of more picks at this stage of our list build

Edit: replied to the wrong message - was in relation to your need more picks inside 50 post, sorry

Personally, I think Darling and Parker are enough especially when you have other experienced players in every line with Logue, Corr, McDonald, Simpkin, LDU ad Larkey.

We still need plenty more young talent coming through the door, especially small forwards and KP's.

 

[Tas]

i'm glad we didnt get houston because imo would have been overs and it opens up our future second and third rounders to get daniel and parker deals done if needed

I would have been ecstatic if we got Houston, I just didn't believe for a second we were a legitimate option. We would have had to have a Bradbury scenario happen.

 

[ferball]

Fisher played what half a season for blues as hb.... he was recruited as he plays multiple positions not the one.... could well be back fwd


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back or forward? Make up your mind!!!!

 

[kool kangas]

i'm glad we didnt get houston because imo would have been overs and it opens up our future second and third rounders to get daniel and parker deals done if needed

Not getting Houston means that we didnt get a player who doesn't want to be here, so thats fine with me..Parker has stated that he wants to come here so thats where our goal lies...l'm still not sure about Daniel though.

 

[shinboner magic]

Did Viney land the big fish on his trip out west

 

[ferball]

They didn't "give" us pick 17. They allowed us to upgrade an already good pick by a few spots, in exchange for us giving them another good pick as well. You love this narrative that we somehow got Fisher for free

We also gave Fisher a contract well beyond his qualities to the point where we're now chasing someone else in his position. It was a poor trade

We ended up with Fisher and Wil Dawson (pick 22). Carlton ended up with picks 29 and 34. We also specifically picked Fisher because he could play multiple roles not just as a hbf.

So we got Fisher and Wil Dawson instead of picks 29 and 34.

 

[Only Forwards]

It may not be the case, but there is something other than a lack of talent that is holding this group back.

One million percent.

We are in a spot were it is like as a collective we have been conditioned to lose. That the external point of view that North are a bottom tier team and that is all we ever can be now effects our mentality on field.

That we have a comradery off field but it is bathed in a level of delusion of it not mattering whether we win or not.

I would really like for us to get back to our roots of having f*** all and if we can't win we will make you hurt for it.

For too long we have played nice and it needs to stop, at every level administrative and football.

 

[ferball]

Tucker is incomparable with ball use.... Tucker is a solid role player, these are the types we need to start pushing out


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Tucker makes alot of turnovers.

 

[hilly]

Just listening to Ports list manager “Norths offer for Houston was actually inferior to what we got (from Collingwood)”

Spin!

 

[Only Forwards]

We also specifically picked Fisher because he could play multiple roles not just as a hbf.

The problem with this is he can't play the defensive part of being in the back line and he can't fit into the forward line, he is also pretty slight and to top that all off he is barely a step above Stephens when is comes to how soft his centre is.

 

[New_Roo]

Who do you think instigated the Fisher and Stephens trades? Clarko would have pleaded his case for the type of player(s) he needs for his game plan. And Viney or Brady don’t have the smarts to overrule him.

Now we are doing the same shit all over again. Chasing hard and overpaying for someone else’s fringe player.

Rawlings doesn't nor would he have the power, but Viney does as boss of both.

Daniel is a fringe player in team who prob have one of the best lists in the afl, and should be doing much better with the list.... Bevo is an interesting character but Daniel would be in most other teams 22 easily


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[My Left Foote]

I have never wanted a Sam Faff rumour to be more true than this.

 

[muttley45]

Tarpies are in full damage control mode today, so far i have heard Chris Davies, and Jason Cripps

Jason Cripps

Age

48

Ht

183cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

5.2

4star

HO

0.1

3star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

HO

0.0

1star

trying to appease their supporter's with their rehearsed spin, and the bullshit meter is off the charts.

 

[giantroo]

 

[ferball]

The problem with this is he can't play the defensive part of being in the back line and he can't fit into the forward line, he is also pretty slight and to top that all off he is barely a step above Stephens when is comes to how soft his centre is.

Fisher was alright on the back line in the games I saw live. Except when he was stuck one out against an opposition KPF, which happened far too often. But I guess you can't put that on him because his job shouldn't be last line of defense against a KPF.

Did we try him in the forward line to know if he can't fit?

 

[giantroo]