List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

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PicksClubsResult
15-10-24 - Pick TradeStKilda & BrisbaneBrisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick
St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick TradeMelbourne & EssendonMelbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick
Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick TradeMelbourne & AdelaideAdelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick
Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick TradeBrisbane & RichmondRichmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20)
Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick TradeCarlton & BrisbaneCarlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick
Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick TradeCarlton & HawthornCarlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick
Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks


PlayerOriginal ClubTrade/FANew ClubResult
Daniel RioliRichmondTradeGold CoastGold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli, R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks
Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai BoltonRichmondTradeFremantleFremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton, R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick.
Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry SharpBrisbane & MelbourneTradeMelbourneMelbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane)
Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston
Jack Lukosius
Joe Richards
Rory Atkins
John Noble		Port Adelaide
Gold Coast
Collingwood
Gold Coast
Collingwood		TradeCollingwood
Port Adelaide
Port Adelaide
Port Adelaide
Gold Coast		Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius, Joe Richards, Rory Atkins
Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39)
Collingwood receive Dan Houston, PA R4(58)
Matt Owies
Liam Baker		Carlton & RichmondTradeWest CoastRound 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton
Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond
Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE
Liam Baker to WCE
Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac CummingGWSUFAAdelaideEnd of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh BattleSt KildaUFAHawthornRound 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom CampbellSt KildaDFAMelbourneNo Compensation
Harry PerrymanGWSUFACollingwoodRound 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott HimmelbergAdelaideUFAGold CoastNo Compensation
Nick HaynesGWSUFACarltonNo Compensation
Alex Neal-BullenMelbourneTradeAdelaideRound 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack DarlingWest CoastTradeNorth MelbourneRound 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack GrahamRichmondUFAWest CoastEnd of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

 
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Realistically we will only have the tigers to deal with. Would do 2 for 6 and 18. Future 1st for 11 and 24. Potentially even add our future second if we absolutely had to.
We still have the option to get back into the first and second rounds next year by bringing the '26 picks forward. Could also slide back a bit from 24 and get a future 1st if a club/s are desperate for a player at the start of the second round.
6,11,18 and 24 are perfectly positioned for access to the types of players we need for list balance. Preferably 2 KPF a KPD and a small forward. For those who would cry about giving up a 'certain' top 5 pick for 11 and 24, what if we actually do manage to pull ourselves out of 5 years of shit and get ourselves to mid table? Surely not too crazy of an aspiration after the quality experience added, as well as 4 more quality kids and internal development now we have the best development guy (as voted) in Micky Barlow. If we managed that it would be a couple of pick slide at most for the first round and an upgrade of the second round pick.
Next year should be all about enough improvement that LDU signs and we can attract at least 1 quality free agent. No more years in the bottom 4, please!!!!
 
On points value 2 for 6 and 18 would be 219 more points for Richmond whereas 2 for 6 and 11 would be overs for us. Possibly exchange our f2 for their f3 would be about right but can see Richmond being more open to 6 and 18
 

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sacrilecious said:
Realistically we will only have the tigers to deal with. Would do 2 for 6 and 18. Future 1st for 11 and 24. Potentially even add our future second if we absolutely had to.
We still have the option to get back into the first and second rounds next year by bringing the '26 picks forward. Could also slide back a bit from 24 and get a future 1st if a club/s are desperate for a player at the start of the second round.
6,11,18 and 24 are perfectly positioned for access to the types of players we need for list balance. Preferably 2 KPF a KPD and a small forward. For those who would cry about giving up a 'certain' top 5 pick for 11 and 24, what if we actually do manage to pull ourselves out of 5 years of shit and get ourselves to mid table? Surely not too crazy of an aspiration after the quality experience added, as well as 4 more quality kids and internal development now we have the best development guy (as voted) in Micky Barlow. If we managed that it would be a couple of pick slide at most for the first round and an upgrade of the second round pick.
Next year should be all about enough improvement that LDU signs and we can attract at least 1 quality free agent. No more years in the bottom 4, please!!!!
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So what you are expecting is that Richmond give you basically everything they got for trading baker Bolton and rioli for pick 2 and f1?

When you reckon you will be mid table next year ?

6+11+18+24

Wowsers
 
blaisee said:
So what you are expecting is that Richmond give you basically everything they got for trading baker Bolton and rioli for pick 2 and f1?

When you reckon you will be mid table next year ?

6+11+18+24

Wowsers
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I did say i would also give you our future second. That would leave you guys with 1,2, 10, 20 and 23 for this year. 5 picks in the top 23 is still ridiculous and then you will have 2 likely quite high round 1's and 2's next year. I am hoping we improve to mid table next year (5 years of torture is plenty thanks!) But it is probably more likely even with improvement we are still bottom 4 or 5. So potentially you end up with 2 top 5 selections and 2 in the early 20's next year.
How many list spots for this year do you guys have to fill this year? Genuine question, as I'm not across other teams list numbers. Surely taking all 8 draft pics this year isn't something you guys want to do.
In terms of 2 for 6 and 18 and a future 1st and 2nd for 11 and 24 which deal would you be more likely to do if not both?
 
JGreezy said:
If we get 6&11 for pick 2 then we are robbing Richmond blind, in this draft. In most drafts that would be a pretty fair trade.
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That's my gut feel, too. It turns on "in this draft".

Richmond might be prepared to go 10/11 + 18 for 2 but that would be a hard sell for Brady (to NM supporters, I mean) and even then they might require something added in the form of a future pick.
 
blaisee said:
When you reckon you will be mid table next year ?
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Anyone thinking we’ll be mid table will absolutely be in the minority.

We’d be doing well to climb out of the bottom 4.
 
blaisee said:
So what you are expecting is that Richmond give you basically everything they got for trading baker Bolton and rioli for pick 2 and f1?

When you reckon you will be mid table next year ?

6+11+18+24

Wowsers
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Pack it up lad.

On another note, I actually think the deal will get done with the Saints.

The desperately need an elite mid.

It won’t be 7/8 for 2 but will be some futures negotiatited.

They are the most motivated buyer for 2.
 
GoRoos2023 said:
Pack it up lad.

On another note, I actually think the deal will get done with the Saints.

The desperately need an elite mid.

It won’t be 7/8 for 2 but will be some futures negotiatited.

They are the most motivated buyer for 2.
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If it's not 7-8 i can't see it happening not a chance but time will tell i suppose.
 
sacrilecious said:
I did say i would also give you our future second. That would leave you guys with 1,2, 10, 20 and 23 for this year. 5 picks in the top 23 is still ridiculous and then you will have 2 likely quite high round 1's and 2's next year. I am hoping we improve to mid table next year (5 years of torture is plenty thanks!) But it is probably more likely even with improvement we are still bottom 4 or 5. So potentially you end up with 2 top 5 selections and 2 in the early 20's next year.
How many list spots for this year do you guys have to fill this year? Genuine question, as I'm not across other teams list numbers. Surely taking all 8 draft pics this year isn't something you guys want to do.
In terms of 2 for 6 and 18 and a future 1st and 2nd for 11 and 24 which deal would you be more likely to do if not both?
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Yea I don’t either of those deals will fly

Draft is even I agree with the other poster that targeting st kilda picks and then going for gws picks with a combination of 2 and f1 looks more likely

Interesting to see what happens

We are all guessing after all .
 

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blaisee said:
So what you are expecting is that Richmond give you basically everything they got for trading baker Bolton and rioli for pick 2 and f1?

When you reckon you will be mid table next year ?

6+11+18+24

Wowsers
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So this might happen ok well that’s 4 players we have 3 players still decided on 2 AFL listed players Lazzaro Harvey
Rookie Drury .
Interesting times ahead.
 
We got three good experienced players coming in.

Goater, Hardeman, and Duursma should start asserting themselves.

Wardlaw and Kerch will come back with bigger tanks and more muscle.

Logue returns. There will be better competition for spots all over the ground.

Still waiting to identify our small forward lock, but it really should be an 8 win season.
 
Makeshift Park said:
We got three good experienced players coming in.

Goater, Hardeman, and Duursma should start asserting themselves.

Wardlaw and Kerch will come back with bigger tanks and more muscle.

Logue returns. There will be better competition for spots all over the ground.

Still waiting to identify our small forward lock, but it really should be an 8 win season.
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If we can win one in every 3 games average I’ll be so happy
 
hellas_johnny said:
On points value 2 for 6 and 18 would be 219 more points for Richmond whereas 2 for 6 and 11 would be overs for us. Possibly exchange our f2 for their f3 would be about right but can see Richmond being more open to 6 and 18
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Point values are only relative to acadamies nga and FS. You shouldn’t use the points system to compare what pick 2 is “worth”. You use history to explain how much a pick is worth and what clubs in the past have given up for it. Example, and i dont think the player matters, Richmond wouldn’t give up pick one for this either. Crows offer 4 and 2 x F1st with F2nd going with pick 1.
West coast wanted 3 x 1sts for pick 1 last year.

Pick 2 is not 3 x first selections. Its one mid top ten and one in the top 15. Thats about what pick 2 is worth every day of the week.
 
blaisee said:
So what you are expecting is that Richmond give you basically everything they got for trading baker Bolton and rioli for pick 2 and f1?

When you reckon you will be mid table next year ?

6+11+18+24

Wowsers
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Lets cut the shit. You will turn Rioli who wasn’t much chop, one of the biggest down hill skiing squibs in the afl, somehow he magically turned into pick 6 and (?) then Baker who is a B grade contributor, Richmond potentially could turn those two washed up has beens into a genuine A grade mid with pick 2.

That should delight the fan base.
 
JGreezy said:
If we get 6&11 for pick 2 then we are robbing Richmond blind, in this draft. In most drafts that would be a pretty fair trade.
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The draft is going to be hit and miss after the mids are taken. The talls are overrated as all ****. Tauru comes on late and almost looks the best of the lot, that in itself speaks volumes.

Its an even draft, it doesn’t mean its good.
 
DuckYeah said:
We’ll end up with the 6th hardest fixture again so 4 wins is plausible
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Thinking of starting a sweep I put dibs we will have at least 10 x 1:10pm games + 7 x 4:40pm games=17 Sunday games .
3 x 1.10pm games + 1 x 4:40pm game + 1 x 7:20pm game=5 Saturday games
1 x 4:40pm Good Friday game.
Thats 23 games for the NMFC in 2025.
I expect an away game in Geelong
Gold Coast in Darwin 2 SA games Brisbane at Norwood + Port Adelaide
Hawthorn Home and Away in Tasmania and 3 Tasmanian games in the 1st half of the year.
 
Mr north man said:
Thinking of starting a sweep I put dibs we will have at least 10 x 1:10pm games + 7 x 4:40pm games=17 Sunday games .
3 x 1.10pm games + 1 x 4:40pm game + 1 x 7:20pm game=5 Saturday games
1 x 4:40pm Good Friday game.
Thats 23 games for the NMFC in 2025.
I expect an away game in Geelong
Gold Coast in Darwin 2 SA games Brisbane at Norwood + Port Adelaide
Hawthorn Home and Away in Tasmania and 3 Tasmanian games in the 1st half of the year.
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DuckYeah said:
Point values are only relative to acadamies nga and FS. You shouldn’t use the points system to compare what pick 2 is “worth”. You use history to explain how much a pick is worth and what clubs in the past have given up for it. Example, and i dont think the player matters, Richmond wouldn’t give up pick one for this either. Crows offer 4 and 2 x F1st with F2nd going with pick 1.
West coast wanted 3 x 1sts for pick 1 last year.

Pick 2 is not 3 x first selections. Its one mid top ten and one in the top 15. Thats about what pick 2 is worth every day of the week.
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Agree up to a point.

We wouldn’t be having this conversation if pick 2 was going to get us a Sheezel or McKercher, so we can’t pretend it isn’t devalued compared to those draft years.

(We’d all the replaying their highlights on loop instead of arguing about sliding down.)

But also, the difference between pick 10 and pick 20 appears to be a lot less than most recent years.

I just think it’s important to not lose sight of the players involved beyond the numbers
 

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