List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[chubbspeterson]

Tbf, he also said we wouldn't be willing to jeopardize our draft hand to bring in the senior players, which we ended up doing (bar pick 2). I wouldn't be holding my breath on what Brady said...

True. He did say "dilute our hand too much" and at the time we had our draft hand. That might change the thinking with pick 2 on best talent vs needs. We will see what happens.

 

[chubbspeterson]

If Akko isn’t bid in the first dozen - pick 28 for our f2 should be what we target

Yep that could be an option if we don't split 2, but I'll actually correct what I said in that we shouldn't trade anything before the draft. In thinking more about it more we should wait until pick 1 called out by Tigers and then we know what the options are before moving future picks.

If FOS gets called at 1, that might have Blues and Crows making offers for 2 to get Draper ahead of each other.
Demons, Saints and Tigers will have some sort of offer. But if we don't move the F1 or split 2, then we could certainly move the F2 for pick 28 off Bombres.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Fair enough. Some including myself do think it has jeopardised it.

Highly doubt we go into the draft with 2 and 62, so I’m sure they’re already well in talks on moves. I just hope we don’t get unders for 2 or F1 because of it, which you can hardly blame anyone for being sceptical of. Re f2, I don’t think clubs will be rushing to trade out of the 20s this year.

Bombres are one who can afford to trade out with 28 and still match a bid on Kako at pick 5 with remaining picks.
I don't think Lions trade 27 into next year as they need more points. Dogs might package up with 35 and 48 or Port with 36 and 50 or something like that. They need more points to match Ashcroft and Marshall bids that's for sure.

 

[The Anvil]

If the Tigers take 8 top 25 picks how are they going to manage fa?
I recognise it would be playing a epicly long game but perhaps it's in our interest to have them take all 8.

The Tigers are about to experience what it looks like to have a bunch of kids and almost no experienced talent, they may not win a game next season.

When you've recently won multiple premierships, maybe you don't care.

Still, they may want to make room for some DFAs just to get some experience in the team.

 

[remfan101]

Pack it up lad.

On another note, I actually think the deal will get done with the Saints.

The desperately need an elite mid.

It won’t be 7/8 for 2 but will be some futures negotiatited.

They are the most motivated buyer for 2.

I reckon Armstrong & Tauru would be gone in this scenario, meaning we miss both.

1. Richmond- Lalor
2. Brisbane- Ashcroft
3. St Kilda- Smith
4. Carlton- O'Sullivan
5. Adelaide- Draper
6. Melb- Tauru/Armstrong
7. Richmond- Tauru/Armstrong (maybe Langford?)
8.
9.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I reckon Armstrong & Tauru would be gone in this scenario, meaning we miss both.

1. Richmond- Lalor
2. Brisbane- Ashcroft
3. St Kilda- Smith
4. Carlton- O'Sullivan
5. Adelaide- Draper
6. Melb- Tauru/Armstrong
7. Richmond- Tauru/Armstrong (maybe Langford?)
8.
9.

That would be a frustrating outcome.

 

[Heaps of fun]

I reckon Langford and probably Smillie go before Armstrong.

 

[hilly]

I would simply not trade 2 unless it was for a pick between 3-6 AND another half-decent pick (not 27, 48, 69 etc).

 

[spurs]

I reckon Armstrong & Tauru would be gone in this scenario, meaning we miss both.

1. Richmond- Lalor
2. Brisbane- Ashcroft
3. St Kilda- Smith
4. Carlton- O'Sullivan
5. Adelaide- Draper
6. Melb- Tauru/Armstrong
7. Richmond- Tauru/Armstrong (maybe Langford?)
8.
9.

It would be Langford before either of those players, the Saints need mids.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

I reckon Langford and probably Smillie go before Armstrong.

If Saints still have 7,8, then Langford/Smillie would be a bloody awesome combo.

Langdord, Smillie and Phillipou would be the biggest midfield trio in the game.

 

[speedy]

It seems like most want Tauru as our target? Do we see him as a defender or forward? I think a key forward is the priority.

 

[Kangalongtime]

Whats a legitimate cost for our future first?
I am in the keep two and take the best available, but I really would like to see us get another hit in the top end of this year

 

[muttley45]

Keep #2, do as much trading of futures as is smart and responsible to get another decent pick or two.

 

[kool kangas]

Keep #2, do as much trading of futures as is smart and responsible to get another decent pick or two.

Swap our #2 for Adelaides #4 and their F1st then ontrade that to GWS for #15 and #16 maybe
We end up with #4, #15 and #16...
l'm not sure if thats a good or bad trade but no doubt people here will let me know...

 

[Sphynx]

It seems like most want Tauru as our target? Do we see him as a defender or forward? I think a key forward is the priority.

Both, but he's moving towards the top 5 because of his potential as a forward.

We'd be drafting him as a partner for Larkey imo.

He's very mobile and we'd be able to play him as a 3rd tall next to Darling imo.

With the added flexibility of being able to shift him to defence as a 3rd defender (in his first few years) if there was an injury.

 

[Nutjob]

If Saints still have 7,8, then Langford/Smillie would be a bloody awesome combo.

Langdord, Smillie and Phillipou would be the biggest midfield trio in the game.

The slowest as well


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[Horace]

One thing that none of us know is what sorts of discussions have already taken place and will take place between now and draft night. For all we know some pick trades have already been made in principle, but just like what happens every trade period each year, deals do not get done until the last minute.

Anyway I'd like to see us trade picks with the Tigers to get Armstrong. There is something about him that I really like.

The top draft chance who left hospital to watch his mates win a grand final without him

Leading AFL draft hopeful Harry Armstrong has Matthew Lloyd in his corner, a great set of hands, and bundles of goals. But he had to overcome a serious infection barely a year ago.

www.theage.com.au

 

[remfan101]

How about:

2 > Richmond for 6, 18, 24
18+F1 > StK for 7

Tauru at 6, Armstrong at 7, free hit at 24.

 

[Twangler]

Swap our #2 for Adelaides #4 and their F1st then ontrade that to GWS for #15 and #16 maybe
We end up with #4, #15 and #16...
l'm not sure if thats a good or bad trade but no doubt people here will let me know...

well it would be great for us….

 

[The Nostradamus]

One thing that none of us know is what sorts of discussions have already taken place and will take place between no and draft night. For all we know some pick trades have already been made in principle, but just like what happens every trade period each year, deals do not get done until the last minute.

Anyway I'd like to see us trade picks with the Tigers to get Armstrong. There is something about him that I really like.

The top draft chance who left hospital to watch his mates win a grand final without him

Leading AFL draft hopeful Harry Armstrong has Matthew Lloyd in his corner, a great set of hands, and bundles of goals. But he had to overcome a serious infection barely a year ago.

www.theage.com.au

i still think Shanahan will be the better KPF and we could get him with a pick around 11

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I reckon you can include Zane in KPF if Darling is there, FWIW Gollant will join as well.

Hope not. we already have enough of his type. Our list is unbalanced enough in this area as it is.

 

[hilly]

Swap our #2 for Adelaides #4 and their F1st then ontrade that to GWS for #15 and #16 maybe
We end up with #4, #15 and #16...
l'm not sure if thats a good or bad trade but no doubt people here will let me know...

Plenty of instant feedback at BigFooty.com

I can't see the Crows paying up that much to move from 4 to 2.

Crows future 1st for 15 and 16 I'm neutral on.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I reckon Langford and probably Smillie go before Armstrong.

I'm tipping Smillie to be the slider on draft night. Somewhere between 10 - 20.

 

[hilly]

I reckon you can include Zane in KPF if Darling is there, FWIW Gollant will join as well.

We would need to take him in the National Draft or delist a contracted player.

 

[year of the roo]

i still think Shanahan will be the better KPF and we could get him with a pick around 11

Still? So you haven't changed your mind?