List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Nutjob]

You/we are in for a lot of disappointment if we believe Darling is a 'genuine' key forward. He is no where near being able to play that role and cannot expected to do so in 2025.

However we certainly need a 'genuine' 2nd key forward - Teakle was by far our best option as evidenced in that run of games where we looked like causing an upset - but Darling isn't it.

Teakle, Comben, W Dawson, CCJ and then Darling would be the order of their ability to play a genuine 2nd key forward in 2025.

Depth is very poor in that area and this was the year we needed to fix it - but alas we haven't been able to.

Hate to break it to you, but we didn’t recruit Darling to be a 5th in line key forward.


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[The Nostradamus]

Collingwood apparently about to sign another cat b rookie assuming he doesn’t make it to the nba early next year

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Meanwhile brady has signed none

And before him the most recent 1 cat b rookie (McGuinness) the draft before Brady joined

 

[archereleven]

Darling can play as a genuine KPF for the next 2 years. He is a big upgrade on pink and will help with structure and teashing the young players coming through.

Chom will settle back for another year.

The question I'm still asking is where are we playing Will Dawson. I thought he looked great as a back but we started to play him forward. I feel that will impact who we draft. Tauru is probably similar in he could be drafted as KPF or KPB. I prefer KPF for him.

I'd like the club to develop our youngsters where they played their junior football and excelled. This 'cross training' bullshit is for the tip.

I don't mind a season at the other end for development purposes, but Will Dawson fwd instead of just drafting a natural KPF is silly.



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[Shinboner1]

Collingwood apparently about to sign another cat b rookie assuming he doesn’t make it to the nba early next year

Basketball cross coder

Meanwhile brady has signed none

And before him the most recent 1 cat b rookie (McGuinness) the draft before Brady joined

yeah big appeal coming to north lol

 

[The Nostradamus]

yeah big appeal coming to north lol

That are that many potential ways to sign cat b rookies

Hell go poach the best Gaelic talent

 

[archereleven]

Collingwood apparently about to sign another cat b rookie assuming he doesn’t make it to the nba early next year

Basketball cross coder

Meanwhile brady has signed none

And before him the most recent 1 cat b rookie (McGuinness) the draft before Brady joined

Didn't we have Red Og as well, or was he before McGuinness?

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[The Nostradamus]

Didn't we have Red Og as well, or was he before McGuinness?

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Before

 

[Only Forwards]

That are that many potential ways to sign cat b rookies

Dude we can’t develop the speculative rookies that have a football background.

How in the f*** would we develop ones that don’t?

 

[iloveireland]

Every year a team gets the "wont win a game" every year they win one. Will happen again. Your midfield still has potentially Nank, Taranto and Hooper who can win games for you. A team will lose every game in a season again at some stage though. I dont think it will be Tigers though

Most likely is a new Tassie team

 

[krakouers]

How in the f*** would we develop ones that don’t?

 

[remfan101]

Most likely is a new Tassie team

Nah, they'll be 7th-10th in their first year I reckon. AFL won't be making the same mistakes this time around: they'll be a lot more senior.

 

[patmatcat]

Sam Lawlor, Josh Smillie or Fin O'Sullivan for me at 2. But do North target the best tall, or wait for another draft ?

 

[chubbspeterson]

Collingwood apparently about to sign another cat b rookie assuming he doesn’t make it to the nba early next year

Basketball cross coder

Meanwhile brady has signed none

And before him the most recent 1 cat b rookie (McGuinness) the draft before Brady joined

Alex Condon? That was mentioned ages ago. Condon nominated Pies as his preferred destination if his 3rd year of hoops doesn't work out or whatever the rules are.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Sam Lawlor, Josh Smillie or Fin O'Sullivan for me at 2. But do North target the best tall, or wait for another draft ?

Sounds like we'll only take talls if we split pick 2, but we did have 25 and 44 at the time, so who knows now.

 

[Ura]

I'd like the club to develop our youngsters where they played their junior football and excelled. This 'cross training' bullshit is for the tip.

I don't mind a season at the other end for development purposes, but Will Dawson fwd instead of just drafting a natural KPF is silly.



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The only thing ill say for the club with Will Dawson forward and likely Tauru is that they are both young enough and early in their development that they its hard to know where they are best.

I agree getting players in their role though

 

[LB2Snake]

Keeler's highlights reminded me of Stephen Michael.

Yeah same…….what happened to him? Or he still there?

 

[krakouers]

Yeah same…….what happened to him? Or he still there?

Stephen Michael?

He well.. did ok at South Freo… has retired

Stephen Albert Michael » WA Football Hall of Fame

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[SnowyontheTram]

You/we are in for a lot of disappointment if we believe Darling is a 'genuine' key forward. He is no where near being able to play that role and cannot expected to do so in 2025.

However we certainly need a 'genuine' 2nd key forward - Teakle was by far our best option as evidenced in that run of games where we looked like causing an upset - but Darling isn't it.

Teakle, Comben, W Dawson, CCJ and then Darling would be the order of their ability to play a genuine 2nd key forward in 2025.

Depth is very poor in that area and this was the year we needed to fix it - but alas we haven't been able to.

You couldn’t seriously believe CCJ has more ability than Darling as a second KF?

 

[Sphynx]

Alex Condon? That was mentioned ages ago. Condon nominated Pies as his preferred destination if his 3rd year of hoops doesn't work out or whatever the rules are.

God this pisses me off.

Another loophole in the system getting exploited.

Condon was nailed on as a top 10 pick in Sheez’s draft 18 months out, goes to college for a couple of years in full knowledge he can essentially walk into the AFL system as a free agent in 2 seasons. It wasn’t even masked, was openly discussed as what he was doing (When he’s a ruckman anyway and would have barely played anyway…) Why wouldn’t you sit it out? Small price to pay for essentially cherry picking your career path and it won’t be the last time this happens

He absolutely should have to go into the draft pool, this is not what Cat B rookies were designed for.

He’d probably get picked in the first 20 picks in a months time, even sitting out 2 years.

The rule should be, If you played in any of the national carnivals in u16’s up, you should have to enter the draft if under 25 years of age moving back to the sport.

This completely offsets Collingwood burning all their picks. Again (after the Daicos FS) and they get McGuane next season as a FS. And will be targeting LDU with nothing to trade with if we match.

Clearly absolutely calculated by Collingwood.