List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[zoomba23]

You know your body best, if he knew he wasn't right, he shouldn't have went back on.

There's no way this isn't a troll post, bro. What the genuine **** is this argument. Do you think that Christian Petracca, in addition to his football, basketball and cooking skills, is also a qualified medical practitioner with extensive knowledge of the difference in symptoms between moderate structural injuries and severe internal injuries? Cos that's the only way this argument holds any weight. This doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response, it's such a dumb thing to say

 

[LETSGOKANGAS]

If Melbourne were confident the old trak would come back there is no way they would let him go.

Smells.

And I cant but think trak at North (which will never happen anyway) would just be another rerun of Judd at Carlton.

 

[R00StaR]

There's no way this isn't a troll post, bro. What the genuine **** is this argument. Do you think that Christian Petracca, in addition to his football, basketball and cooking skills, is also a qualified medical practitioner with extensive knowledge of the difference in symptoms between moderate structural injuries and severe internal injuries? Cos that's the only way this argument holds any weight. This doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response, it's such a dumb thing to say

Had to take the dog into a Melbourne vet around the time it happened, an hour long drive so listened to all sorts of debate about it on SEN. The consensus was without very expensive medical equipment and specialist doctors there was no way of knowing the extent of his injuries other than broken ribs. They had specialists call in and discuss it, and the cost to have all that at a match is unrealistic.

Yes they knew ribs were broken of course, but players have gone back out with that in the past and will in the future. They concluded the Melbourne Doc would've been very much reliant on patient feedback.

Obviously i wasn't a fly on the wall, im just saying what was said on radio, in a pretty in depth discussion about it.

 

[The Anvil]

Agree! Physically l think he'll be fine it's when he cops a knock in that same spot...really he's peeved that he was allowed back on and when you think about it, if he was concussed, he's off the field but why Goodwin let him back on is the real issue.
If he really wants out, buy out the rest of his contract and become an UFA.

If his issue is being allowed back on field when injured but wants to potentially get to the Blues, he may want to watch the Blues game against us and how they dealt with TDK and McKay medically.

 

[New_Roo]

If Melbourne were confident the old trak would come back there is no way they would let him go.

Smells.

And I cant but think trak at North (which will never happen anyway) would just be another rerun of Judd at Carlton.

Erm Melb say they aren't letting him go


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[krakouers]

Who have we cut yet?

Sandwiches…

 

[The acurate one]

If you listen to the most recent podcast Trac was involved in, I seriously think he’ll struggle to get even close to his best once he returns. Some serious mental scars there from his ordeal.

Yep was waiting whether someone would say this. If he’s 10% off on his return he’ll be just a player . A huge risk for whoever takes him .

 

[koshari]

I haven't watched the crows enough to say if he's fully cooked. But if he has anything left then he would help. Even in the fact that he's someone who can lead Larkey.

Fog became a good forward playing alongside tex however souva isnt and is never going to have mits like fog. People need to accept souvs is the 2nd string forward who gets possessions on leads or loose balls rather than pack marking. The bloke you want isnt a mentor but a pack beast who can mark or bring the ball to ground. Which tex is fwiw.

 

[koshari]

If Melbourne were confident the old trak would come back there is no way they would let him go.

Smells.

And I cant but think trak at North (which will never happen anyway) would just be another rerun of Judd at Carlton.

Judd at carlton wasnt judds fault

 

[Passmore]

Who have we cut yet?

Lunch? Well for a while....

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[DesertRoo]

Yep was waiting whether someone would say this. If he’s 10% off on his return he’ll be just a player . A huge risk for whoever takes him .

A player is a upgrade on half of we’ve got anyways. So it’ll be a win..

 

[Gotta_Bea_Hero]

I’m sick and tired of players that sign long term contracts wanting out after a couple of years because circumstances change.

I know this will never happen, but to stop this from happening and using Petracca as an example. He wants out with 4 years remaining on his contract, he shouldn’t be allowed to go to another club until that contract ends.

If the club shops a contracted player around, they should have one less list spot until the contract ends.

In both instances the player gets paid.

This should stop long term contracts being made.





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[Sheezel2Wardlaw]

There's no way this isn't a troll post, bro. What the genuine **** is this argument. Do you think that Christian Petracca, in addition to his football, basketball and cooking skills, is also a qualified medical practitioner with extensive knowledge of the difference in symptoms between moderate structural injuries and severe internal injuries? Cos that's the only way this argument holds any weight. This doesn't even deserve to be dignified with a response, it's such a dumb thing to say

The doctor would have told him he had broken ribs.
With a lacerated spleen he would have been in very uncomfortable pain. He also had a punctured lung, how can you not know that it more than just a broken rib or two? He would have felt like death!

 

[Ashley B]

Sandwiches…

Delicious sandwiches ? Vegan hopefully in celebration of Browns career and retirement lol

 

[R00StaR]

The doctor would have told him he had broken ribs.
With a lacerated spleen he would have been in very uncomfortable pain. He also had a punctured lung, how can you not know that it more than just a broken rib or two? He would have felt like death!

Adrenaline. Sure you know you're hurt but very hard to judge how much if you're really pumpin it.

 

[Ashley B]

Petracca was told Get back out there and have some fun

 

[krakouers]

Delicious sandwiches ? Vegan hopefully in celebration of Browns career and retirement lol

Are we talking about before the last two rounds or after?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Pick 8, f1, f2?

Lol

I'd give up pick 8 for the better mcgoo but nowhere near that bounty.

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I don't really subscribe to the conspiracy theories of unlimited salary caps so I can hardly see where Carlton is squeezing another huge contract in (I don't believe McKay will go anywhere as the basis of that). On the flip side, Collingood have hamstrung themselves with no trade collateral as they seek to bring in B-graders and free agents instead of going to the draft.

A lot of what is said about this one is media fantasy. Even the narrative that he's only going to a big club with big crowds started (I think) with Jay Clark. It's nice but i doesn't always work. If you've got cap space and trade collateral you'd be in this race as a Vic club, perhaps not Richmond as they are dropping like a stone but if St Kilda get their band 1 for Battle they will be falling over themselves to try to lure him.

 

[krakouers]

The doctor would have told him he had broken ribs.
With a lacerated spleen he would have been in very uncomfortable pain. He also had a punctured lung, how can you not know that it more than just a broken rib or two? He would have felt like death!

You know, in a way, my hat is off to him for even playing… AFL is a very physical game and to play through that in that much pain must have been hell (even with painkillers), hats off to him

 

[krakouers]

I don't really subscribe to the conspiracy theories of unlimited salary caps so I can hardly see where Carlton is squeezing another huge contract in. On the flip side, Collingood have hamstrung themselves with no trade collateral as they seek to bring in B-graders and free agents instead of going to the draft.

A lot of what is said about this one is media fantasy. Even the narrative that he's only going to a big club with big crowds started (I think) with Jay Clark. It's nice but it doesn't always work. If you've got cap space and trade collateral you'd be in this race as a Vic club, perhaps not Richmond as they are dropping like a stone but if St Kilda get their band 1 for Battle they will be falling over themselves to try to lure him.

What you are saying is….

It’s…

A fantasy in my mind

 

[Ashley B]

Are we talking about before the last two rounds or after?

Yeah before last 2 rounds schnitzel with salad of choice. After, choice of Vegemite or peanut butter lol

 

[ferball]

Can any of you geniuses write down the criteria for the players we need to trade in then do a list of the players that potentially meet the criteria and then we can go from there? I’m thinking some of the criteria:

Age - 26/28 otherwise we’re just paying out some guys career

Position - KPF KPD do we really need another mid?

Cost - no paying overs for under performers

Added extras - leadership, attitude, desire for a flag

Finally- nothing that has anything whatsoever connected with Hawthorn

Oh and I’d rather go hard on the draft and wait til next year than trade in anymore steak knives

Maybe one mid who can rally people under pressure.

 

[krakouers]

Yeah before last 2 rounds schnitzel with salad of choice , after choice of Vegemite or peanut butter lol

Ashley B the generous and very forgiving chef

 

[Chadwiko]

To be clear at the outset, I do not want the below hypothetical to happen.

However I was talking with a mate last night who floated the below possible trade of two stud players and wanted to see what people's general thoughts are (me personally, I don't like it).

Straight swap: LDU for Petracca.

In this scenario, obviously Petracca commits to North long term and plays out his contract here, and LDU informs the club that he doesn't plan to stay at North after his current contract expires, hence the trade.

In terms of value, I guess it's about right.

But I still don't like it.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

But I still don't like it.