Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[malpaso]

We're interested in a lot of people's scraps this year. Martin, Narkle, now this guy.

Teams do it every year and some players turn it around..

 

[go_the_dockers]

I'm surprised people still don't see the benefit of picking up mature age players from other clubs as depth. Having a senior AFL experienced player come in as depth rather than some kid that's not ready could be the difference.

Some clubs have more depth in some areas than others. That doesn't mean those players are useless, list spots can be tight, especially for clubs who are trying to rebuild on the run.

Even someone like Jack Martin that this board was so negative about. Are Geelong stupid for picking him up? Do we view them as picking up other clubs trash?

Picking up DFA is just a free hit and if Freo think those players are a better option than anything else we'll lets not hate on the idea.

Best case scenario we stay full fit next year, and those guys like Narkle or Carrol if we pick them up, just help Peel win another flag.

It depends how highly we rate the players, who they are replacing, or what pick we are using to get them.

I didn't see anything from Narkle last year, to suggest he is worth a spot in the best 22 of a top 6 side.

He was very underwhelming for Port in the finals. I would prefer Mature age players, from 2nd tier comps who can also be immediate depth.

 

[Superkoops]

It depends how highly we rate the players, who they are replacing, or what pick we are using to get them.

I didn't see anything from Narkle last year, to suggest he is worth a spot in the best 22 of a top 6 side.

He was very underwhelming for Port in the finals. I would prefer Mature age players, from 2nd tier comps who can also be immediate depth.

I’d prefer Jack Carroll to be honest but I’d imagine your point about picking up stand outs in the 2nd tier comps is exactly the reason Narkle is being looked at. When he has gone back to Port SANFL he has played very well.

Had a very good start to 2023 VFL season with Essendon VFL. Then immediately after being selected in the MSD landed in Adelaide and played with Port SANFL side and was immediately in the bests for a number of weeks before getting a call up for 3 late season games. Was emergency a number of times as well. This year played a lot of Sub. In the game that everyone remembers where he wasn’t sub (vs Sydney) he did play terribly.

 

[s_wd6]

Teams do it every year and some players turn it around..

Yeah I don’t mind it tbh. Just not seen a lot of it from us in recent times

 

[go_the_dockers]

I’d prefer Jack Carroll to be honest but I’d imagine your point about picking up stand outs in the 2nd tier comps is exactly the reason Narkle is being looked at. When he has gone back to Port SANFL he has played very well.

Had a very good start to 2023 VFL season with Essendon VFL. Then immediately after being selected in the MSD landed in Adelaide and played with Port SANFL side and was immediately in the bests for a number of weeks before getting a call up for 3 late season games. Was emergency a number of times as well. This year played a lot of Sub. In the game that everyone remembers where he wasn’t sub (vs Sydney) he did play terribly.

I was not advocating for Narkle. I don't see a position in our best 22 for him.

I feel he is a small inside mid, and he can't play the same role at AFL level.

As a forward pocket, he would be OK, but I don't think he played that role in the SANFL.

 

[malpaso]

It depends how highly we rate the players, who they are replacing, or what pick we are using to get them.

I didn't see anything from Narkle last year, to suggest he is worth a spot in the best 22 of a top 6 side.

He was very underwhelming for Port in the finals. I would prefer Mature age players, from 2nd tier comps who can also be immediate depth.

We aren't going to find a best 23 player that is being picked up for free unless we have an injury crisis. Why would that be an expectation?

 

[Superkoops]

I was not advocating for Narkle. I don't see a position in our best 22 for him.

I feel he is a small inside mid, and he can't play the same role at AFL level.

As a forward pocket, he would be OK, but I don't think he played that role in the SANFL.


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He played midfield. That round 19 game Port got spanked but Q Narkle dominated. If our recruiters were there watching that game that would have just about been enough to mark his name in permanent marker. The two goals were nice long set shots. One outside 50.

 

[mightymouse75]

Needs to eat, he looks like he's the same weight as he was when drafted..

I'm amazed at people that don't feel a need to eat all the time.. and a little bit jealous

 

[Alfonz]

It depends how highly we rate the players, who they are replacing, or what pick we are using to get them.

I didn't see anything from Narkle last year, to suggest he is worth a spot in the best 22 of a top 6 side.

He was very underwhelming for Port in the finals. I would prefer Mature age players, from 2nd tier comps who can also be immediate depth.

And yet you've advocated for Winder, and Narkle would be considered a better player and more AFL ready than Winder.

Nobody would be expecting him to be best 22. He'd be just what you are saying you want ... a mature age player dominating at WAFL level who can step in if needed due to a few injuries.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

And yet you've advocated for Winder, and Narkle would be considered a better player and more AFL ready than Winder.

Nobody would be expecting him to be best 22. He'd be just what you are saying you want ... a mature age player dominating at WAFL level who can step in if needed due to a few injuries.

Narkle now been delisted twice, Winder only once. Checkmate atheist

 

[freo_leo29]

Narkle now been delisted twice, Winder only once. Checkmate atheist

Not true, Winder has been delisted twice

2022 and 2023

 

[go_the_dockers]

And yet you've advocated for Winder, and Narkle would be considered a better player and more AFL ready than Winder.

Nobody would be expecting him to be best 22. He'd be just what you are saying you want ... a mature age player dominating at WAFL level who can step in if needed due to a few injuries.

Winder delisted due to attitude I think

Not talent.

I think Winders upside is better.

.3 goals a game in AFL is not enough for me

 

[go_the_dockers]

We aren't going to find a best 23 player that is being picked up for free unless we have an injury crisis. Why would that be an expectation?

Then why get him.

I just see him as a waste of list space.

I don't see a role for him in our best 23 or anywhere close to our best team.

If he was a small forward then maybe.

 

[malpaso]

Then why get him.

I just see him as a waste of list space.

I don't see a role for him in our best 23 or anywhere close to our best team.

If he was a small forward then maybe.

Because our depth is shite I'd imagine and we have Walters who although contracted probably doesn't play.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Because our depth is shite I'd imagine and we have Walters who although contracted probably doesn't play.

Our small forward depth is shit.

But by all reports, he is not a small forward and 2, does not perform when he plays at AFL level.

O'Driscoll, Banfield both not best 22 I think but Infront of him.

Happy to get a good depth small forward, but don't think Narkle is write person

 

[eastfreo75]

Picks 14 and 30 go kids, later picks and rookie picks go mature age.

Mature picks to fill depth issues and picks 14 and 30 on best available.

 

[Docker82]

Picks 14 and 30 go kids, later picks and rookie picks go mature age.

Mature picks to fill depth issues and picks 14 and 30 on best available.

I'm fine with going for one of the best mature agers (especially under 22) in the country at Pick 30 if it fills a need and the club genuinely believes that player is the best available player for our list.

If you could get a player like Lachie Schultz (2nd or 3rd year version) straight away you just do it in our current position. I think mature agers later in the draft are more likely to be long shots anyway.

 

[eastfreo75]

I'm fine with going for one of the best mature agers (especially under 22) in the country at Pick 30 if it fills a need and the club genuinely believes that player is the best available player for our list.

If you could get a player like Lachie Schultz (2nd or 3rd year version) straight away you just do it in our current position. I think mature agers later in the draft are more likely to be long shots anyway.

I have no issues with a younger mature player at pick 30 as well.

 

[freo84]

Our small forward depth is shit.

But by all reports, he is not a small forward and 2, does not perform when he plays at AFL level.

O'Driscoll, Banfield both not best 22 I think but Infront of him.

Happy to get a good depth small forward, but don't think Narkle is write person

Drizzy is 100% best 22.

Big preseason and he will be play every game he's fit for.

 

[go_the_dockers]

What position will narkle play for us, and why do you think he will improve our squad?

I don't see him as top 30 player for us.

 

[s_wd6]

What position will narkle play for us, and why do you think he will improve our squad?

I don't see him as top 30 player for us.

Not every player is recruited to improve our team by being b22. We were exposed this year because we had so little experienced depth. I have no problem adding someone like him as experienced depth over filling that spot with a teenager for a late pick.

I don't really see the appeal based on the last few games I watched but it's not something I'm too fussed over either way. If he's some sort of half forward depth I think it's fine. We're pretty bare there.

 

[freo84]

What position will narkle play for us, and why do you think he will improve our squad?

I don't see him as top 30 player for us.

No idea and I don't know enough about him to comment.

Buuuuuuut he may be a lure for Kozzie.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Not every player is recruited to improve our team by being b22. We were exposed this year because we had so little experienced depth. I have no problem adding someone like him as experienced depth over filling that spot with a teenager for a late pick.

I said top 30.


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Aish, O'Driscoll, Simpson, Erasmus, Banfield, Johnson all Infront of him.

That is before pick 14 and pick 30

Fremantle
FB: Ryan Pearce Walker
HB: Clark Cox Chapman
C: Sharp Fyfe* O'Meara*
HF: Bolton Treacy Switkowski
FF: Sturt Amiss Frederick

Fol: Darcy Serong Brayshaw
Int: Wagner Jackson Walters* Young

Peel
FB: Draper Murphy Worner
HB: Aish McDonald [medium defender]
C: [wing] Erasmus* O'Driscoll*
HF: Emmett Voss Simpson
FF: Banfield [kpf] Delean

Fol: Reidy Brodie Johnson
Int: Davies Knobel Jones

 

[Docker82]

Not every player is recruited to improve our team by being b22. We were exposed this year because we had so little experienced depth. I have no problem adding someone like him as experienced depth over filling that spot with a teenager for a late pick.

What relation does injuries to talls have to Narkle? Pretty sure he’s not going to replace Alex Pearce or Josh Treacy.

I don’t remember being exposed in the roles within the team that Narkle would play for us and losing games because of it.

Not having a depth player who’s kind of a forward, kind of midfielder but no good at either isn’t why we missed finals. Laughable to suggest otherwise.

 

[s_wd6]

What relation does injuries to talls have to Narkle? Pretty sure he’s not going to replace Alex Pearce or Josh Treacy.

I don’t remember being exposed in the roles within the team that Narkle would play for us and losing games because of it.

Not having a depth player who’s kind of a forward, kind of midfielder but no good at either isn’t why we missed finals. Laughable to suggest otherwise.

As I said I'm not fussed either way and have really no strong feelings about him to defend or berate the decision to get him. It'll be a year contract at most and the spot will either be filled with him with some AFL experience or a teenager taken at a low pick that's far from it (see Delean). It's not going to be long term and doubt it has much (if any) impact next year postive or negative.