Game Day 2024 Trade Period

[Big Animal]

That's nothing more than lazy journalism from Eliza

I disagree. She created a new story that noone has told which is rare this time of year of copycats, recycling, and flat out fantasy, has put some public leverage behind the need for Freo to keep 11, and she is just about the only local media left who constantly puts pressure on West Coast (they smile to her face but she frustrates them greatly internally) and is unashamedly pro-Fremantle. I'm happy to let her do her thing, even if Bo isn't actually our target.

 

[Taylor]

Allan would play off half back, for a while.

 

[Big Animal]

sounds like the Boyd replacement has been made and we're just spacing out the announcements

 

[SoS12]

We don’t need him ? Are you okay mate ?

To be fair, we don't. We beat both grand finalists this season with one of the youngest sides in the competition. To add to that, it was our youth who drove that, not Fyfe, Walters and JOM. We will be heavily in premiership calculations in 2025 regardless of Bolton being here.

We don't NEED Bolton next year but he'd be nice to have. So would the kids those 3 early draft picks in a strong draft could bring us or whatever we turn those picks into. We're in a very strong position to build the side and getting Bolton does not equal a premiership.

It helps but the biggest factor is another pre-season and experience in all of our young blokes. The myth we NEED to deal with Richmond and throw whatever draft picks at them is perpetuated by Richmond. Freo are actually in an incredibly strong position to attack next season and walking from the Bolton deal is a real option.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

If this is a super draft the only reason we'd be shopping 11 around is for a top 5 pick next year for Warner.

Is North still in the hunt for Houston and could we extract their future first for 11 in this draft?

 

[greatgatsby]

I disagree. She created a new story that noone has told which is rare this time of year of copycats, recycling, and flat out fantasy, has put some public leverage behind the need for Freo to keep 11, and she is just about the only local media left who constantly puts pressure on West Coast (they smile to her face but she frustrates them greatly internally) and is unashamedly pro-Fremantle. I'm happy to let her do her thing, even if Bo isn't actually our target.

Not living in WA I lap up everything Eliza writes. She appears to be the only local journo who writes about Freo with some passion, rather than because there's no Eagles puff piece scheduled for that day.

One of the reasons the Eagles as an organisation has struggled to get out of the hole they're currently in is that the whole community they're a part of, including the media, does nothing but piss in their pockets.

 

[SupermanCapes]

To be fair, we don't. We beat both grand finalists this season with one of the youngest sides in the competition. To add to that, it was our youth who drove that, not Fyfe, Walters and JOM. We will be heavily in premiership calculations in 2025 regardless of Bolton being here.

We don't NEED Bolton next year but he'd be nice to have. So would the kids those 3 early draft picks in a strong draft could bring us or whatever we turn those picks into. We're in a very strong position to build the side and getting Bolton does not equal a premiership.

It helps but the biggest factor is another pre-season and experience in all of our young blokes. The myth we NEED to deal with Richmond and throw whatever draft picks at them is perpetuated by Richmond. Freo are actually in an incredibly strong position to attack next season and walking from the Bolton deal is a real option.

Love the optimism but your points are pretty cherry picked. We also missed finals and found a way to lose to Essendon when the chips were down with that same team. Even premiers can afford to improve in the offseason and we were a way off being premiers in 2024.

I think the idea of "need" isn't meant to mean we have no choice, but rather that Bolton addresses a pretty obvious list requirement. I can't think of many times we have been picked by a quality player, who fills a need, would significantly improve our chances of winning a flag and we have the currency to make the deal happen while also not compromising our list development.

If we're serious about putting silverware in the cabinet, ever, we should make this deal happen.

 

[freo1997]

sounds like the Boyd replacement has been made and we're just spacing out the announcements

Curley most likely.

 

[dont bowl there]

Love the optimism but your points are pretty cherry picked. We also missed finals and found a way to lose to Essendon when the chips were down with that same team. Even premiers can afford to improve in the offseason and we were a way off being premiers in 2024.

I think the idea of "need" isn't meant to mean we have no choice, but rather that Bolton addresses a pretty obvious list requirement. I can't think of many times we have been picked by a quality player, who fills a need, would significantly improve our chances of winning a flag and we have the currency to make the deal happen while also not compromising our list development.

If we're serious about putting silverware in the cabinet, ever, we should make this deal happen.

Wish I could like this more than once.

 

[Docker82]

Love the optimism but your points are pretty cherry picked. We also missed finals and found a way to lose to Essendon when the chips were down with that same team. Even premiers can afford to improve in the offseason and we were a way off being premiers in 2024.

I think the idea of "need" isn't meant to mean we have no choice, but rather that Bolton addresses a pretty obvious list requirement. I can't think of many times we have been picked by a quality player, who fills a need, would significantly improve our chances of winning a flag and we have the currency to make the deal happen while also not compromising our list development.

If we're serious about putting silverware in the cabinet, ever, we should make this deal happen.

Sounds like the exact logic that resulted in Lachie Weller being traded to Gold Coast for pick 2. Unless them we don't have an endless supply of first rounders gifted to us by the AFL.

Both the Bolton and Rioli deals will get done but Richmond won't accept a fair price until there's a genuine risk they won't get the first round picks they desperately need.

Relax, realise the Bolton trade won't happen until this time next week and enjoy the ride (not that there's much happening ATM).

 

[Joao]

Can’t believe we are still talking about the fact Bo Allan is from WA as if that’s a reason to select him.

It should have nothing whatsoever to do with the decision. I mean like, zero percent consideration.

I have faith that Wallsy and co aren’t that dumb to select him just because he’s from Peel though.

Lets leave the nuff nuff stuff when it comes to WA draft talent to Chris read on X and the boys from the purple reign podcast.

Retention is a factor, but it's certainly not the most important one.

And I like Davis independant of the state he is from.

 

[FreoRicci]

What’s the points for pick 10 and 11. Would that be a top 5 pick?

Love how disgustingly overpriced these WA players are for Victorian teams.

 

[mattis117]

Sounds like the exact logic that resulted in Lachie Weller being traded to Gold Coast for pick 2. Unless them we don't have an endless supply of first rounders gifted to us by the AFL.

Both the Bolton and Rioli deals will get done but Richmond won't accept a fair price until there's a genuine risk they won't get the first round picks they desperately need.

Relax, realise the Bolton trade won't happen until this time next week and enjoy the ride (not that there's much happening ATM).

Weller trade is a terrible comparison. Not even remotely similar.

 

[FreoRicci]

If this is a super draft the only reason we'd be shopping 11 around is for a top 5 pick next year for Warner.

Is North still in the hunt for Houston and could we extract their future first for 11 in this draft?

Love how we have 3 first rounders in a Super Draft yet might go be gone.

Smells of 2001.

 

[gaskin]

Love how we have 3 first rounders in a Super Draft yet might go be gone.

Smells of 2001.

It isn't a ""super draft" in the sense that the top end talent is so ridiculously out of this world. The draft is just incredibly even and deep.

 

[maccamk]

I don’t think the club rates the wing spot at all. Traded out Langdon, Hill, Acers and Henry in recent times and Sharp was the only player to play every game and miss the top ten in the B+F. Not sure I agree with the strategy but it’s pretty clear how we view that role.

When we get Bolton I really want to focus on a half back with an elite kick. We haven’t replaced Young in that role yet and as much as I like Wagner we need something better long term.

Elite kick is solved in next years draft with Toby Whan being in out NGA. Plays wing and HB.


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[Quazar2]

snores

 

[dont bowl there]

Elite kick is solved in next years draft with Toby Whan being in out NGA. Plays wing and HB.


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Ahhh OK, that would be handy. I have never seen him play but elite kick NGA...yes please.

 

[SupermanCapes]

Sounds like the exact logic that resulted in Lachie Weller being traded to Gold Coast for pick 2. Unless them we don't have an endless supply of first rounders gifted to us by the AFL.

Both the Bolton and Rioli deals will get done but Richmond won't accept a fair price until there's a genuine risk they won't get the first round picks they desperately need.

Relax, realise the Bolton trade won't happen until this time next week and enjoy the ride (not that there's much happening ATM).

Yeh totally agree that the deal will get done, full confidence that Walls knows what he's doing. I'd rather it drags than risk we blink first. I was just making the point that I think we do "need" Bolton as much as any team needs a player this trade period.

 

[Purple Suit]

Yeh totally agree that the deal will get done, full confidence that Walls knows what he's doing. I'd rather it drags than risk we blink first. I was just making the point that I think we do "need" Bolton as much as any team needs a player this trade period.

I recon we need Bolton as much as Richmond needs the picks. 10 + 18 is fair, Bolton's management will have kittens if the deal doesn't get done from this point. All depends on what our targets are with our remaining hand.

 

[chaosball32]

Both the Bolton and Rioli deals will get done but Richmond won't accept a fair price until there's a genuine risk they won't get the first round picks they desperately need.

Relax, realise the Bolton trade won't happen until this time next week and enjoy the ride (not that there's much happening ATM).

I think everyone knows a deal will get done, we need the player, Richmond need the picks, we have the picks to facilitate, player wants to come home and so on. Would take something bizarre for it to fall through, especially with all the media coverage in the past few months.

If it takes until next week to get the best deal then so be it, Richmond will have an awesome hand regardless so I hope there is some leniency shown. They’d be crazy to say no to two more 1st rounders for a player who doesn’t want to be there when they are about to be thrust knee deep into a rebuild.

 

[Hammersoup]

AFL trade: Why Bo Allan is the key factor in Richmond and Fremante’s trade over Shai Bolton​

Richmond wants picks 10 and 11 for Shai Bolton. The Dockers only want to give up one of those alongside pick 18. ELIZA REILLY unpacks why the Dockers won’t cave to the Tigers’ demands.
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Here’s a question for Fremantle fans. If Richmond stands its ground and insists on the Docker’s first two draft picks, currently 10 and 11, in exchange for Shai Bolton, should Fremantle bite the bullet or walk away?
As it stands, the two clubs are haggling over which two first round picks form part of the deal.
The Dockers are more willing to part ways with pick 18 as well as one of 10 or 11. The Tigers want both 10 and 11.
In reality, Fremantle might just be haggling over Bo Allan.
A certainty to be the first Western Australian selected in the AFL draft, Allan is firming as a top 10 pick after an impressive national combine.
The 18-year-old finished in the top 10 in the agility test (7.940), running vertical jump (92cm) and standing vertical jump (72cm) to finish the combine with one of the best athletic profiles in this year’s draft class.

The Dockers have enjoyed a front-row seat to Allan’s development with the midfielder/defender playing 11 games for Peel Thunder this season, including the club’s 2024 premiership. In one trade, Fremantle will not only look to secure Bolton but also retain access to Allan.
“I was really honoured to be selected in that squad,” Allan said of Peel’s grand final win over East Fremantle. “I had a little niggle during the finals and was lucky enough to be a late inclusion against the Swans in the prelim then made the cut for the grand final.
“It was elite. It was still really surreal as an 18-year-old winning a WAFL flag but I wouldn’t have done it with any other group of boys.
“We try to be on the same page there with the same game plan for when the Freo boys come back. They make it so good.
“Having played majority back at the start of the season, I had Tendai Mzungu from Freo as my coach. Having people like Hugh Davies and Ethan Hughes down there with me has been hugely helpful for my confidence and knowledge.

“It made it so much more comfortable and easy for me.”
Allan also spent a week training with the Dockers during pre-season as a member of the AFL Academy. He spoke to 16 different clubs at the combine and would be happy to go anywhere to live out his dream.
“It would mean the world,” Allan said. “As an 18-year-old, I’ve spent a big chunk of my life training for this.
“I love it. To get a chance at the highest level, I’d be over the moon.”
Allan was picked to play for WA in the Under-18 championships last year for depth. That was until he was asked to play a role on No. 1 draft pick Harley Reid by coach Ben Dyer.
“He told me I’d be playing on Harley when he was forward and (Zane) Duursma when he was resting forward,” Allan said.
“I looked at Benny for a little bit and wasn’t sure if he was joking. He gave me a pat on the back and that was it.

“I started preparing straight away. I went home and told my parents and Dad was thrilled for me. He wanted me to embrace the opportunity and be confident. I never looked back.
“It was a big game for me. I took it with both hands and loved the opportunity. I had nothing to lose as an underager playing on him. The hype was real. He’s an unreal player. I have so much respect for him.”
This year, Allan was the headline act of WA’s squad, and this time his talent and leadership did the talking.
The Halls Head product started preparing for a mooted midfield move at the start of the season, playing two games with Peel’s Colts side before making his league debut.
Despite an injury concern on the eve of the National Championships, Allan averaged 19 disposals and 5.5 tackles in the engine room. His two goals against Vic Metro’s star-studded midfield drew particular praise as did his ability to unite the group as captain.
“Being named captain was a humbling experience for me and made me develop my leadership even more,” he said. “I was a bit more lead by example on-field but I developed my social side of leadership a lot more and connecting with boys outside of footy and getting to know everyone.

“We were such a united group this year and the team camaraderie was unreal.”
Allan sees himself starting his AFL career as a defender but he’d like to eventually develop into a midfielder after a productive season on-ball.
“I’ll be more confident at this point down back but developing my skills in the midfield is something I pride myself on and what to improve on,” he said.
“There was a lot of learning I had to do really quickly to adapt to different playing styles. I got the chance in a few games at league level as well which was really enjoyable.
“It’s something I can see myself developing in. If I got the chance, I’d love to nail the craft down but I think I’m more than capable.”

Thanks

 

[Duz97]

Would actually trade 11 for melbournes f1 can see them being bottom 4-5

 

[guidodp15]

Would actually trade 11 for melbournes f1 can see them being bottom 4-5

Too Risky. Only reason why we got Collingwood 1st was because they couldn’t go higher, we kinda lost on the Port Future trade

 

[nurries]

Would actually trade 11 for melbournes f1 can see them being bottom 4-5

If a F2 was added I would consider. Too risky they push close to top 8