List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[Diehard Saint]

I agree, I don't think we handled the Battle thing well at all.

I think if the players were as pissed at him as some suggest, then he would not hage accepted an invitation to come anyway.

Just looks like sour grapes from our end.

You know what though, by tomorrow it’s already yesterdays news.

 

[True Believer]

Agreed.

It’s been annoying listening to it the last 2 days (all I’ve had time for as I’ve got time off with a newborn).

So again, back to my original post. I’m very keen to see what happens on Friday/Compo day.

I imagine Ross/SOS/Mission/Dilena will be doing stuff across SEN & Trade Radio.

Congrats.

You should check with Josh about childcare!!

 

[Diehard Saint]

That’s definitely the only positive I can see out of it. The attitude we need to take against the AFL and everyone else for that matter. To galvanise us all. Something we need to get behind.

Just frustrating we haven’t come out publicly at all and combatted any of the mass pile ons and free for alls from media and oppo fans alike.

Actually think it’s better we don’t.
Why give it any more oxygen?
We lose a player. We have 2 requesting us.
We pocket the pick and move on.

 

[True Believer]

No idea how they get it done unless its another GC style salary dump

In that case the Geebung salary cap must be one of those Cotton On stretch fit salary caps......

 

[Diehard Saint]

Sleeps all day.

Barely sleeps a wink at night

****ing kids, eh?

Congrats mate.

( You think you’re having sleepless nights now - wait till they’re teenagers!)
Seriously though - kids are the best.

 

[Nutsngum]

In that case the Geebung salary cap must be one of those Cotton On stretch fit salary caps......

Its a pretty open secret that a lot of under the table deals occur in that city.

 

[True Believer]

The old saying is, "When taking revenge, dig two graves."

I did the same when my two kids were born, Stavro. My son has now grown into a typically frustrated and suffering Saint. Mission accomplished.

My daughter, on the other hand and abandoned the Saints in her early teens. To make matters worse, she caved into incessant pressure from her maternal grandmother and in laws and crossed to.....I can barely write this......the filth!!!!

That happened after the GF loss in 2009. She couldn't stand the, "The pain and losses."

The 2010 GF must rank among the worst days of my life. She and my mother in law really rubbed it in afterwards. They still are. She rose from her grave. I'm still in mine.

Beware, grasshopper.

And yet from what you have written, you're mother-in-law is still with us?

I am not saying you have been derelict in your duty,

but she is still with us......yes?

 

[TheJackal]

Did I hear correctly that Geelong met with Oliver and his entourage at Tom Hawkins

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Tom Hawkins

Age

36

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

' farm?

I'm guessing that's the ultimate 'all of this could be yours' moment if that is true.

For a club who has butchered so many of their first picks in each draft for the past decade and more, they keep on getting 'lucky' with these deals.

I'd like to think that by getting guys like Oliver and Smith it would put pressure on their cap, but they are obviously aging and don't have a heap of big name young players. So just as guys like Danger are getting older, they get in big names to replace them. It's frustrating because it's probably not even close to a squeeze for them - meaning SDK is happily within the cap on a huge pay rise.

 

[Mat Mann]

No doubt we will get screwed but it’s impossible to get the hardest fixture with the top 6, middle 6, bottom 6 double up fixture system.

that sounds like a challenge the AFL is willing to take on and ensure happens

 

[St Neil]

Congrats on the arrival Stav.

A beautiful time of your life. It really is.

 

[Ekomaira]

No doubt we will get screwed but it’s impossible to get the hardest fixture with the top 6, middle 6, bottom 6 double up fixture system.

it will be a little bit harder than it potentially would have been, with Higgins goal putting us in the middle group of 6

 

[Saints4ever]

it will be a little bit harder than it potentially would have been, with Higgins goal putting us in the middle group of 6

This is true but if we want to be a serious side we will be an anywhere anyone team in 2025.

 

[stfan]

No doubt we will get screwed but it’s impossible to get the hardest fixture with the top 6, middle 6, bottom 6 double up fixture system.

Who you play is only part of what goes into how hard a fixture is or is not.

This season we were screwed over with short back to back breaks between games combined with interstate trips. Plus our bye round was later than most.

The favoured clubs played a week before us as well.



That goal against the Blues as good as it felt not only cost as pick 5/6, but also moved us in the middle 6 with respect to fixture.

So all in all I doubt we will get an easy fixture in 2025, and given the AFL always seems to stuff us around it is more likely to be on the harder side than not.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Looked like a beast.

Real man vibes.

Might’ve been his moustache.

Bill the Butcher vibes

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

Geelong will have to do something out of the ordinary to get both in.

I'd be asking the question of SDK.

This!! Genuine opportunity for us. I know Geelong shut down the SDK trade, but since then they have had 3 players nominate. Something has to give somewhere, so I hope we are straight on the phone again. Unlikely, but would love to push in on this deal. Hell we are talking to the Dogs already anyway.

So push for some version of:

St.K - DeKonig & the crayfish
Gee - Smith
Dogs - 8 & 43

Lets Geelong get Smith done early, and leaves them a full draft hand to haggle with Melbourne through to the final day.

We use the Battle compo to immediate replace Battle (and its a structural improvement), as well as get the Crae deal done

Dogs get decent picks in a strong draft for players that want out.

Leaves us with 7 and 23ish + Peckett, Hoffman and Cole. Very happy with that

 

[austinnn]

Bill the Butcher vibes

He looks like Dipper to me

 

[StCicatriz]

Why does Tom Morris continue to insist we're offering literally everyone stupid contacts?

Because we probably are. I'd say we have a bucket of money and are trying to improve the list.

 

[NasiahToKing]

Battle is nothing without Wilkie by his side. Guy is way overrated. 900k a year pfft, Wilkie should be on 2 mill if he’s on that.

 

[snails13]

Who you play is only part of what goes into how hard a fixture is or is not.

This season we were screwed over with short back to back breaks between games combined with interstate trips. Plus our bye round was later than most.

The favoured clubs played a week before us as well.



That goal against the Blues as good as it felt not only cost as pick 5/6, but also moved us in the middle 6 with respect to fixture.

So all in all I doubt we will get an easy fixture in 2025, and given the AFL always seems to stuff us around it is more likely to be on the harder side than not.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

So is today the day when Chad, Naicos and the Bont all nominate Geelong?

 

[GTrains Love Child]

Battle is nothing without Wilkie by his side. Guy is way overrated. 900k a year pfft, Wilkie should be on 2 mill if he’s on that.

Barrass & Sicily aren’t bad support to be fair

 

[Sully111]

So is today the day when Chad, Naicos and the Bont all nominate Geelong?

Only if Swans, Pies and Dogs pay 3/4 of their salaries

 

[wannabewinner]

Did I hear correctly that Geelong met with Oliver and his entourage at Tom Hawkins' farm?

I'm guessing that's the ultimate 'all of this could be yours' moment if that is true.

For a club who has butchered so many of their first picks in each draft for the past decade and more, they keep on getting 'lucky' with these deals.

I'd like to think that by getting guys like Oliver and Smith it would put pressure on their cap, but they are obviously aging and don't have a heap of big name young players. So just as guys like Danger are getting older, they get in big names to replace them. It's frustrating because it's probably not even close to a squeeze for them - meaning SDK is happily within the cap on a huge pay rise.

Stanley’s farm. The gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Gotta Love Footy]

Would rather Joel Trudgeon or even Jarrod Lyons for a year or two.

Joel’s tackling is elite. Unbelievable pressure. Hopeful he gets a go.

 

[gringo2011]

You know what though, by tomorrow it’s already yesterdays news.

The media literally tracks the way stories blow up and keep stoking if there is traction. The less interaction the less oxygen the fire gets.

The way Geelong gave zero shits or any energy to the story of Stengle collapsing, probably on drugs was exemplary. It was barely a ripple when most other clubs would have press conferences, make statements, have the player apologise etc. They just refused to feed the story and it got less traction than a speech at the B and F.