Maybe we have offered what we think he is worth.We can easily up our offer or ask what would make him sign on. We are too cowardly to admit that we want the compensation so blaming Josh.
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Maybe we have offered what we think he is worth.We can easily up our offer or ask what would make him sign on. We are too cowardly to admit that we want the compensation so blaming Josh.
Yeah 100% agree.Wouldn’t be surprised if one of Marshal Sinclair or Steele are requesting trades end of year, when a new boss/regime that demand better standards come in and it ruffles feathers, players don’t like it that been there getting easy street cash for years. Just got the feeling will be some huge changes end of year and personally I feel we need it, no point being middle of the road team if that mean bottom 4 for next 3 years so be it. Think we have the right people in the right jobs to build this team.
Firstly, if we are unable to convert a player with as much promise as King into a star, that’s close the doors level incompetency from all club departments. To give up on him as a supporter base is disgraceful given our club maxim ‘strength through loyalty’ but emblematic of our weak club.
Carlton kept the faith with Curnow and his body finally clicked together at 25yo with 60 games in 7 seasons with 80 goals. King currently at 23yo with 5 seasons all of which have been injury interrupted, 6 counting his pre draft year acl, is at 72 games for 159 goals.
It boggles the mind to be required to spell out how unique a footballer and talent he is but he is 202cm, runs like the wind, is strong and dynamic at ground level, can kick the ball nearly 70m, mark at the highest point, has shown he can stand up in big moments and kick 4 goals in a quarter to ice a game even while we have no one to kick it to him and no opportunities directly from centre clearance, he has kicked 159 goals already.
Imagine if; we had a midfielder or two who could come out the front of stoppage to provide some clean 1v1s or to at least allow a leading lane. What if we had some other marking options inside 50 to reduce opposition focus. Just imagine if we had guys who could kick to advantage he might’ve kicked 220 to this point.
It’s hardly worth mentioning because of how obvious it is that we have no one else capable of kicking even 30 goals as a key forward. You need at least a top 10 pick in a strong draft and all the luck in the world to find a forward capable of 50+ goals each year.
We can all see how much he is struggling but we must keep the faith with him, he is 23yo and at his lowest ebb in terms of form. To trade him now would be the most short sighted, self destructive thing we’ve ever done. Total madness and lunacy.
Man Tom morris is a flog. Running over the Rowan marshal story again on SEN. Really digging the boots in. Got no idea of what’s going on at the club
Maybe we have offered what we think he is worth.
We can easily up our offer or ask what would make him sign on. We are too cowardly to admit that we want the compensation so blaming Josh.
So a young new coach will solve everything with this current playing list.That's fine but at some point they have to deliver instead of going backwards. Ratts was sacked because we thought he wasn't maximising the list available. He had 10 wins in his final year. Ross would need to win 5 out of the remains 8 games to equal that and his answer is to cull the good players to bring in draft picks in a draft that is shit.
That's high risk low reward IMO. Gambles sometimes come off but if you don't you have a worse list than you started with and no senior players to take over when the seniors step out.
To me we need to move Lyon to a director of football role, sack Sos and find the best available list manager we can get. Chase down a young senior coach who has recent experience in a successful side. Ideally something like McQualter, Hansen etc and Justin Leppisch as a senior assistant and 2IC.
So a young new coach will solve everything with this current playing list.
I haven't heard to many bad reports of the talent available in upcoming Draft.
Every player that we chose in last year's Draft has already played senior footy this season(a rarity at this club) so why is SOS in the gun
JoyDivision how long do you give potential. Its obvious Max is psychologically flawed as he has actually gone backwards on where he was 3 years ago. He has never looked like he even enjoys playing the game let alone shown some passion out on the field. The guy is a 6'10" version of Billings.
If it hasnt worked for him and the club by now its not going to.
Its time to bite the bullet and trade him while he stll has a significant trade value. He might come good but its not going to be at St Kilda he is damaged goods. Time for Max and the club to part ways IMO.
So a young new coach will solve everything with this current playing list.
I haven't heard to many bad reports of the talent available in upcoming Draft.
Every player that we chose in last year's Draft has already played senior footy this season(a rarity at this club) so why is SOS in the gun
I think the thing that killed Jack Billings was a lack of aggression and talentI'm no fan but we'd be mad to trade him. He's still young and he actually wants to play at StKilda so its a matter of finding a way to keep him out of his shell.
I don't understand why the coaches aren't making changes to how he plays but now even the media are catching on to what we've been saying for a while.
Billings was moved to the wing when he had his major issues and tbh l reckon that's what killed him. Whatever King's problems are, he needs to work through it and he might need to be broken down first.
One thing I thought was strange is that he said we rebuilt twice under Richardson? When was the second one? I feel like it's been 10 years since we were in rebuild modeTom “liquor license” Morris probably uses Lynx Africa in the morning with that stupid campaigner grin
Thank you for taking the time to type this being it is actually sensible. Some of the comments on here are either from drunk people or those that struggle with emotional regulation.King is this decades Joe Daniher. He shows all the making of a star at Essendon and then traded to Lions who play him as a high half forward Ruck.
Marshall showed how effective he was moving forward. If we could alternate that with Max and keep Sharman or Camaniti deep then we may have that highly mobile drifting forward line that is hard to match up.
If Battle goes and we get pick 4 and 5 take it and run...sadly it is the way forward as I like Battle.
Clark is too slow and is depth....sadly.
JHF Butters and Rozee were just a class above our guys. We need more speed and that comes from the draft.
Selecting and trading for Henry makes sense, let's hope there is another one we can get for next year.
Add Pou next year and potentiality Keeler and a developing Garcia and Hastie we are not looking too bad.
Remember no Crouch who has been our best mid last 2 years has shown up a pretty bare cupboard....be great if we can get him healthy
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A good post there CP.Our 25 and unders are actually pretty good.
Arie and Caminiti both look good down back.
Take a first round compo for Battle and run.
If we can draft 2 genuinely good mids then we're right back in the game.
Mids are literally the HARDEST thing to get if you don't draft them yourself.
If we go into this draft with two top 5's and don't draft two pure mids I'll just about pack it in.
You lost me botts at the words.....Tom Morris.Man Tom morris is a flog. Running over the Rowan marshal story again on SEN. Really digging the boots in. Got no idea of what’s going on at the club
Joshy lowering the sunnies(looks like the Dingley tip location wise) and saying...."show me the money"
JoyDivision how long do you give potential. Its obvious Max is psychologically flawed as he has actually gone backwards on where he was 3 years ago. He has never looked like he even enjoys playing the game let alone shown some passion out on the field. The guy is a 6'10" version of Billings.
If it hasnt worked for him and the club by now its not going to.
Its time to bite the bullet and trade him while he stll has a significant trade value. He might come good but its not going to be at St Kilda he is damaged goods. Time for Max and the club to part ways IMO.
Billings had more talent than 95% of other players.I think the thing that killed Jack Billings was a lack of aggression and talent
Your argument that this is an awful front end is on the basis that there is no clear cut pack leader and it’s a “roll of the dice”.You aren’t following the draft then. This is an awful front end compared to most years. Barely a stand out. If Jagga goes top 3 we are looking at a dice roll. Every game I watch I think it’s worse. Metro are the best side in it and they are very even. Ashcroft looks the most likely to be a star IMO. Just doesn’t do anything badly. Jagga next. Then throw a blanket over them.
I thought the president made this clear that we don’t think the list is good enough?That's fine but at some point they have to deliver instead of going backwards. Ratts was sacked because we thought he wasn't maximising the list available. He had 10 wins in his final year. Ross would need to win 5 out of the remains 8 games to equal that and his answer is to cull the good players to bring in draft picks in a draft that is shit.
That's high risk low reward IMO. Gambles sometimes come off but if you don't you have a worse list than you started with and no senior players to take over when the seniors step out.
To me we need to move Lyon to a director of football role, sack Sos and find the best available list manager we can get. Chase down a young senior coach who has recent experience in a successful side. Ideally something like McQualter, Hansen etc and Justin Leppisch as a senior assistant and 2IC.
I believe there is 1 senior contracted player who is unhappy. One to keep an eye on.Man Tom morris is a flog. Running over the Rowan marshal story again on SEN. Really digging the boots in. Got no idea of what’s going on at the club
I believe there is 1 senior contracted player who is unhappy. One to keep an eye on.
Not Marshall.
i keep hearing Steele.Has he been an All-Australian in the past?