USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

 

[Royces Hart]

Here's a summary:

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

Add to the recent admissions by Suckerbergs Farcebook and Dorsey ex CEO of Twitter.

So when Trump to this day, still maintains that the election was stolen and there were millions of illegal votes cast, this doesn’t turn you off him?

 

[GreyCrow]

And describing the “black race” as some sort of mindless subspecies that are easily manipulated, is totally rank.

Wel he supports Pedo Donny so not surprising at all

 

[GreyCrow]

Here's a summary:

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

Add to the recent admissions by Suckerbergs Farcebook and Dorsey ex CEO of Twitter.

And the Democrats whipping up race divisions with the BLM riots.

If you believe that 2020 was a free and fair election, you're ill-informed, willfully ignorant, or blinded by your own ideology aided by group think.

And if you think it was stollen you're an idiot

 

[stefcep]

So when Trump to this day, still maintains that the election was stolen and there were millions of illegal votes cast, this doesn’t turn you off him?

No. I don't agree with his specific allegations nor his actions but the point is the same. Democracy is being corrupted, and its being corrupted by both sides of politics. Its just that the progressive side is better hidden, more sophisticated, spreads deeper and wider and fis ar more insidious. Their supporters mostly know this, but don't care as long as their side wins. But the worm turns, its only a matter of time, and then they'll cry foul, like they did when Elon went rogue.

 

[Royces Hart]

And if you think it was stollen you're an idiot

All I see is that people who supported Biden, were more organised and worked harder to get him elected. Nobody was denied a vote, no illegal votes cast, everybody who wanted to, had their say.

 

[stefcep]

And describing the “black race” as some sort of mindless subspecies that are easily manipulated, is totally rank.

You did that.

 

[stefcep]

All I see is that people who supported Biden, were more organised and worked harder to get him elected. Nobody was denied a vote, no illegal votes cast, everybody who wanted to, had their say.

You see what your ideology and group allows you.

 

[stefcep]

And if you think it was stollen you're an idiot

That's semantics. Corrupted. Stolen. Same. But Different.

 

[Royces Hart]

No. I don't agree with his specific allegations nor his actions but the point is the same.

The point is absolutely not the same. Maintaining a massive lie, having your sycophants jailed or sued into oblivion, targeting innocent election workers and ruining their lives, asking officials to “find votes” is nothing at all the same.

 

[Dazzler9]

You see what your ideology and group allows you.

 

[Royces Hart]

You see what your ideology and group allows you.

If I go and stand on the roadside waving a placard for my preferred local candidate before the next election, am I interfering in the election?

 

[stefcep]

The point is absolutely not the same. Maintaining a massive lie, having your sycophants jailed or sued into oblivion, targeting innocent election workers and ruining their lives, asking officials to “find votes” is nothing at all the same.

The objective is the same. Democracy was corrupted. Only the details of how differ.

 

[GreyCrow]

That's semantics. Corrupted. Stolen. Same. But Different.

Like Comey releasing a report eleven days before the election?

After a years-long FBI investigation, it was determined that Clinton's server did not contain any information or emails that were clearly marked classified.[1]

In July, FBI director James Comey announced that the FBI investigation had concluded that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but recommended that no charges be filed

On October 28, 2016, eleven days before the election, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had started looking into newly discovered emails. On November 6, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had not changed its conclusion.[8] Comey's timing was contentious, with critics saying that he had violated Department of Justice guidelines and precedent, and prejudiced the public against Clinton.[9] The controversy received more media coverage than any other topic during the presidential campaign.[10][11][12] Clinton and other observers argue that the reopening of the investigation contributed to her loss in the election. Comey said in his 2018 book A Higher Loyalty that his decision may have been unconsciously influenced by the fact that he considered it extremely likely that Clinton would become the next president.[

 

[stefcep]

If I go and stand on the roadside waving a placard for my preferred local candidate before the next election, am I interfering in the election?

That's campaigning. But if you're funded by a wealth billionaire or two in a co-ordinated campaign that suits his agenda, then absolutely you are corrupting democracy. BTW thats how the Teals won their seats.

 

[GreyCrow]

That's campaigning. But if you're funded by a wealth billionaire or two in a co-ordinated campaign that suits his agenda, then absolutely you are corrupting democracy. BTW thats how the Teals won their seats.

So let me get this straight

Are you saying both the LNP and ALP are corrupting democracy because they pay people to electioneer for them?

 

[Dazzler9]

That's campaigning. But if you're funded by a wealth billionaire or two in a co-ordinated campaign that suits his agenda, then absolutely you are corrupting democracy. BTW thats how the Teals won their seats.

Isn't Trump literally a billionaire??

 

[Royces Hart]

The objective is the same. Democracy was corrupted. Only the details of how differ.

So the Republicans tried as well but weren’t as successful, so waaaahhhhh it’s was corrupted and stolen.

Do you feel any empathy for the election workers that had their lives ruined by Trump’s lies?

 

[GreyCrow]

So the Republicans tried as well but weren’t as successful, so waaaahhhhh it’s was corrupted and stolen.

Do you feel any empathy for the election workers that had their lives ruined by Trump’s lives?

He has none at all - nor for the Arlington families that Trump threw under the bus

 

[stefcep]

Like Comey releasing a report eleven days before the election?

After a years-long FBI investigation, it was determined that Clinton's server did not contain any information or emails that were clearly marked classified.[1]

In July, FBI director James Comey announced that the FBI investigation had concluded that Clinton had been "extremely careless" but recommended that no charges be filed

On October 28, 2016, eleven days before the election, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had started looking into newly discovered emails. On November 6, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had not changed its conclusion.[8] Comey's timing was contentious, with critics saying that he had violated Department of Justice guidelines and precedent, and prejudiced the public against Clinton.[9] The controversy received more media coverage than any other topic during the presidential campaign.[10][11][12] Clinton and other observers argue that the reopening of the investigation contributed to her loss in the election. Comey said in his 2018 book A Higher Loyalty that his decision may have been unconsciously influenced by the fact that he considered it extremely likely that Clinton would become the next president.[

The FBI examined tens of thousands of emails from Clinton’s private server. Investigators found 52 email chains that contained references to information “that was later deemed to be classified,” McCabe said.

 

[Satan]

Isn't Trump literally a billionaire??

ted dibiase likes this

 

[GreyCrow]

The FBI examined tens of thousands of emails from Clinton’s private server. Investigators found 52 email chains that contained references to information “that was later deemed to be classified,” McCabe said.

Nothing about election interference in releasing the report where NO charges were laid ?

 

[stefcep]

So the Republicans tried as well but weren’t as successful, so waaaahhhhh it’s was corrupted and stolen.

Do you feel any empathy for the election workers that had their lives ruined by Trump’s lies?

I have no opinion on it.

 

[stefcep]

Isn't Trump literally a billionaire??

That's what it takes.

 

[GreyCrow]

I have no opinion on it.

Because if you did you would have to show your true colours - not that you already havent

 

[Satan]

I have no opinion on it.

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