2nds 2024 VFL thread

[dlanod]

We keep doing this weird drafting of multiple types all at once - making it really hard for them all to develop in the VFL with limited role opportunities. And even if they do make it then they retire at approx the same time. Its poor list management IMO

Lane and HSmith together. Morris and Lane this year.

Yeah, it's a little odd. Perhaps it's playing the odds on a position we have an acknoledged hole. Rayner and Bailey probably another example.

BTW, I'm assuming you mean Lloyd.

It's been a while now, but I have a recollection that someone commented on it at the draft night last year and the explanation after drafting Morris and Lloyd was that if you have identified a gap the better bet is to have more lottery tickets to fill it if you rate what's available.

No one followed up about the potential logjam in the reserves for playing time, but it's probably less of an issue for forwards (or anyone else on the field) than it is for rucks anyway.

 

[KissKiss]

It's been a while now, but I have a recollection that someone commented on it at the draft night last year and the explanation after drafting Morris and Lloyd was that if you have identified a gap the better bet is to have more lottery tickets to fill it if you rate what's available.

No one followed up about the potential logjam in the reserves for playing time, but it's probably less of an issue for forwards (or anyone else on the field) than it is for rucks anyway.

Except when we have Fort, HSmith and Lane in the team at least some of that time ends up in the forward line. Was worse when we have ASmith and Buzza in the team as well. We seem to alternate between all talls and zero

 

[Nathan Barley]

Except when we have Fort, HSmith and Lane in the team at least some of that time ends up in the forward line. Was worse when we have ASmith and Buzza in the team as well. We seem to alternate between all talls and zero

Had Fullarton and Buzza last year. Most games we had 4-5 rucking

 

[KissKiss]

Had Fullarton and Buzza last year. Most games we had 4-5 rucking

I knew I was forgetting someone in Fullerton

 

[Johnny Bananas]

In a vacuum, I feel like a 22 ideally has two KPFs, one pure ruck and one hybrid to give the starters a rest and cover in-game injuries. Doubling that for the reserves makes 4/2/2, and I'd perhaps add one more spot for a developing player who isn't expected to play seniors for the year. So a total of 9.

I might be missing someone, but I think we have that rough balance on our list: 5 KPF including at least one who isn't expected to play seniors this year (Daniher, Hipwood, Ryan, Morris, Lloyd), 2 pure rucks (Big O, Lane) and 2 hybrids (Fort, Smith). I know neither Morris or Lloyd are typical KPF size, but they play that role.

The problem is, we don't play with a hybrid at senior level, it's just two KPFs and a ruck. Rayner covers third tall forward and Joe chops out in the ruck. So we may as well think of the list in terms of the hybrid being redundant, and all the above players split into KPF and ruck. That would mean we need at most 4-5 KPFs and 2-3 rucks, 7 overall instead of 9.

I didn't watch the VFL game, but so far as I understand from reading the commentary by everyone in this thread and looking at the stats, Fort was the main ruck, Smith rotated in the ruck and the forward line, and Payne moved forward, perhaps in place of the injured Ryan.

This leaves Lane as the odd man out. If we want to keep our present structure in the seniors and prefer Smith at ruck contests, then there's no real place for Lane. And who knows if Smith would even be getting these opportunities if Ryan was fit.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

The problem is, we don't play with a hybrid at senior level, it's just two KPFs and a ruck.

And then three hours later we name a side with Daniher, Hipwood, Big O and Fort. Well then.

 

[McIvor]

 

[Mr Ripper]

Yuge game against the black and white striped team at BHA in the morning. Wonder if Kai could be a late 'in'. Hasn't had much footy so far.

 

[Nunez]

Yuge game against the black and white striped team at BHA in the morning. Wonder if Kai could be a late 'in'. Hasn't had much footy so far.
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Stoked to see Greeney in!

 

[BrownYouGun]

Yuge game against the black and white striped team at BHA in the morning. Wonder if Kai could be a late 'in'. Hasn't had much footy so far.
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Kai should absolutely be playing - had maybe 10 minutes on field and seniors don’t play for 8 days

 

[dizzysquizz]

Sorry not sure if I have missed it any where ...BUT where is Brandon Ryan ???

 

[Mayestro]

The boys should be extra motivated today- the best opportunity in a long time to push for senior selection.

 

[Nunez]

Is it free entry?

 

[lionshine]

Great courage with the mark followed by a nice kick from Torrent. Get him into the seniors!!

 

[lionshine]

Logan loves a goal!

 

[scoman]

Logan loves a goal!

Surprisingly finds them off the ground and roving as well. Maybe his agility is better than reported!

 

[iBeng]

Sorry not sure if I have missed it any where ...BUT where is Brandon Ryan ???

I swear I read he had a broken toe

 

[Section 5]

Reville starting in the middle

 

[BRAB]

Reville starting in the middle

He’s done some good things in the middle as well.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Reville starting in the middle

Did last week as well

 

[HereIGoAgain]

Zorko has claimed that half back distributor role after last night, but could Reville be an option there? Has taken a big step up this year.

 

[martinson]

I'm not currently watching the game but on what I've seen the last couple of years Reville is the one guy who looks to have the smarts and athleticism to play Senior footy.

 

[Bucking Beads]

We really need someone to jump out of the ground for us at this level. Our coaching staff seem so unwilling to bring anyone up from the VFL.

 

[Mayestro]

Logan Morris holding his marks (which was what frustrated me the most from night.)

 

[lionshine]

Irregardless of how poor our forward line in the seniors is playing, Logan Morris might actually play seniors soon. Just good forward craft and leads up the ground to find the footy and take marks so he’s already got more strings to his bow then just an inside 50 third tall.